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@ajasatya for sure, stopping seeking for a while has given me tremendous relaxation, it is still part of the spiritual pursuit, just in a different way. i find that when i feel there is a need to conceptualise and understand one more piece of information, just the "one more piece of information" it stops you from relaxing. However, finding that there is no information that can get you there besides disciplined and repetitive method without mind is soothing otherwise it thinking launches your mind into a frenzy chasing its own tail.

more ego survival dynamics , any decision hedged against logic will not serve you any truth but it can be practically applied to your life as any other model, so its up to you take the counter-intuitive move or take the intuitive move.

@Inliytened1 out of interest, did you expect it to happen or was it totally random?

@ajasatya @TheAvatarState I have relapsed and am finding it quite peaceful, but ultimately the single enlightened state is what the pointers are towards yes, but the scriptures and the duality bought about from different traditions can not lead you to enlightenment directly, they are all teoltlizing so to speak . the simplicity is: that everything is nothingness there is also no depth to it either, it may seem like it from the perspective of going from not knowing to knowing. just a friendly reminder hence the reason buddah reached perfect enlightenment. but what your speaking is true all religions start from the need to express the nothingness and hence end up creating fluff in different manners

just sounds like your recycling your mind thoughts in your dream. you already know that it's to eliminate falsehood and grow awareness?

no concept matches the true depths of emptiness and basically killing yourself to sacrifice the subjective experience is the goal. therefore, if its true that the self only reveals itself to the true self itself, then its simple there's no way to get there all that can happen is a staged breakthrough which you don't have any control of. therefore you must give up control does that mean that the breakthrough is dependant on pure luck and the choice of god itself, or will it definately happen if i do self-inquiry for 50 years?

@Jack River its the deconstruction of the human psychee by scientific standards, this is the three compartments they break down psychee into

i didn't quite understand what you meant by this. it must be pure accident, because you can never reach it yourself by setting it as a goal.

@purerogue @DrewNows thanks ill take this into consideration

@purerogue yeah thats where i'm at, in a non dual state, but need to find emptiness or experience it atleast once to ground myself. how do you suppose i find emptiness or that true beingness, just meditate? it goes back to my first question, that again its not something you control, you can at best only hope to catch a breakthrough even if its not a full breakthrough like reaching pure emptiness.

@Ethankahn i use them interchangeably when i say these words i mean basically reaching enlightenment is the point you reach the void or emptiness

@tedens what do you mean? if i understood correctly i wouldn't say that your wrong, i didn't know what i was searching for until now and even then a search warrent cannot be permitted yet you still must take the path to search. and this is my point, its simply a single breakthrough that god permits himself. so if your ready to awaken you will awaken but you still must try until then.

@purerogue but doesn't one need to experience the breakthrough of emptiness/nothingness to understand the very nature of being, isn't letting go of control only second best to this, your moves will become in sync i agree, however, you will still not know of the emptiness/nothingness that is actually present @Ethankahn i am not talking about the perspective or percieving a void, when you reach emptiness in your journey, there will be no perspective, but being itself. i don't think leo has had a direct experience of the void, even if he did, he wouldn't be able to talk about it or mention it. there is not the possibility of experiencing it in your direct experience.

Yeah i see, because it is you (god) anyway thanks alot dude

i read some pages of a book and understand the difference, the unitary movement is the awareness moving as a whole movement. but the knower is the underlying nothingness that exsist. so they are different but at the same time, the same thing!

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@Jack River i got confused, but its okay! thanks

@Jack River how are they not the same is what i was really asking?

@Jack River so you accept everything because of the underlying knowingness which is the ultimate truth, you can't divorce the two and therefore you keep the i as what ever experience you experience? and you accepted responsibility for your actions. whats the difference between knowing and movement, i thought they were the same thing?

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@Jack River yeah i'm with you on what you said, so you decide to live in one unitary movement in the now. whilst i'm still not so far ahead in my embodiment, i find it difficult to stay in the unmodulated non activity, or am unable to detach as clearly as you said. but is it really wrong, to remain in conflict with thought-time modulations and end your search there. by this point everything is already an illusion to you, including the past decisions you have made even though you know thats also an illusion after you make the decision.

@Jack River yeah i'm with you thats what i'm dealing with at the moment, but i'm not considerably worried about still being fascinated to the point of scrambled awareness, whats beyond this, that you've experienced. you stay aware of awareness all day long and you never come back to being the story again. would you consider that full detachment from the ego?

@Wisebaxter thats the law of attraction right there, lol!

@TheAvatarState interesting, this does make sense. even if i talk about it in incrimentals of now and making decisions, ultimatley the big picture thinking is what you described. thanks this is actually a huge load of my shoulders agreed who knows what's going to happen! infinite intelligence does