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@Serotoninluv i hear ya, and i totally agree with what he said, i have made this conscious choice, to suffer without happiness, to make it easier for myself and those around me, maybe it'll cause them suffering in unconscious ways, but inevitably it will make them feel more comfortable and fear less about the outcomes of the future.

if you strip all labels away name, address, country of birth, nationality, gender, likes, dislike, personality what is the difference between you and the other person?

@winterknight most certainly what i wanted to hear, i think its tricky for young people who haven't discovered the I because it is the next best thing. i think even if i argue against it, its something i must pursue to know for myself. i just wanted to know whether truly it was imaginary or not. but for an unenlightened person it has to be one or the other, its either become enlightened or pursue something of desire.

to admire the beauty of consciousness, to use creativity to solve the worlds problems, to make some money and survive, to give my life a immaterial purpose, to challenge myself, to discover higher potentials within me, to make a career out of helping others, to create a hero's journey, to show others that life can be more than just getting a 9-5 job, to create purpose for other, or to help them find purpose in their lives, to work in a team to create ,to find practical solutions, to start up a business envoking high values, to motivate others, to enjoy my life, to find a sense of fulfillment, to do something with my life these are the reasons on which my life purpose is built is this egoic? because enlightenment shows that nothing is wrong and that instead i should be focusing on purifying myself and having a direct experience of nothingness/ finding the "I" in self inquiry and putting this first instead of going on a wild goose chase, this is the question i find that leads me to ask myself am i in the right or wrong to pursue a life purpose

The paradox of life purpose is that you are doing it for you, but if you include sacrificing yourself for the benefits of other, you are doing it for other i do not think my ambition is driven by money, fame, sex, all these lower psychological needs its coming out of my wanting to do something with my life that is building ontop of the past efforts of humanity and continuing it forward towards its ultimate pinnacle which for me is life trying to become more conscious of itself if you take enlightenment into account, then there is no need to do this because everything is already perfect but the natural flow of reality is changless change so is this enough of a reason to pursue a certain life purpose? the fact that you are doing it just to build ontop of the past, its not for reasons that are should/ should not, right vs wrong or any dualities, simple being a vessel for change as leo stated.

@Joseph Maynor I'm doubling down, this is something i feel i need to do and pursuit to be able to fully engage in spirituality wholeheartedly. but i wanted to say you are right about being and leo needing to be on the cutting edge the whole time a stage that one passes through. Its a very egoic process when you are doing it for any other reason than love. but its one that i feel i must run my ego dead into the ground with and find out that it won't bring me happiness. I was wrong, being is just enough. but i can't do that at my age nor has it ever been in my sights. but i hope i can see eye to eye with you when i am 41

@winterknight i see thank you

is a life purpose basically a distraction from doing the actual work?

@Joseph Maynor so in essence what your saying is its nice to acknowledge that you have a life purpose, but be ready to fling it out the window at any time as your survival does not depend on it?

amazing dude! really glad for you! i would have loved for that to happen to me spontaneously: the closest i've got is always "yes i believe in god" but its only ever a belief, they go straight into material paradigm in the next couple of sentences. tell her to join actualised.org ahaha

a bird, an animal in the sea, swimming around in the ocean, or a bird flying in the sky. after getting over the fear of having to die one day and the impermance of this body, i feel it is quite relaxing that i am the unborn and will be a chicken, they are BEING precisely the think they are without the complexity of the human system. does this satisfy you?

i guess its not as wasted life obviously, just basking in the beauty of it all and what not, that hardcore spritual/ turquoise lifestyle. but its not really suitable for a 23 year old, yet 40 and above its ideal, as you well know. So as i aim to conform ever so slightly, to the second hardest thing, changing the world. so being is the first best thing, change is the second best thing. so when i am older i can drop the need to change the world and simply be, thats what its accumulating too. however, i also feel like there's apart of me, that will find something i really enjoy and continue integrating and developing the world forward. having said that i can understand your point now, that maybe its just a stage that one needs to pass through on their self -actualisation route, the peak of their potential , self- realisation?

glad you understand leo, the sheer fact that you need to do actualised.org only serves to limit the amount of time you spend on yourself, this goes for the forum too, knowing that you'll have to reply to things 8 hours later is not good for spritual work, so i think you should take a years break ahah .

No i'm only slightly happy when i'm goal orientated because of fears of not learning enough information to later make a big enough impact at current, and then feel i'm getting towards my full potential ever so slightly. i can drop that and go back to being, not for extended periods of time. I.e ill look at reality directly and realise what an amazing thing it is, or just realise the nothingness in things and watch videos on animals. During this rest period i exhibit everythings good and what not, but ultimately the world is goal orientated, no matter what way you look at it and so are systems and therefore i feel if i'm not doing anything especially at my age (23) then i'm wasting my life.

@Joseph Maynor i agree, but i also think isn't there a sincere and genuine attempt, to try change things that aren't ego related?

@Joseph Maynor I see, thats fair enough. it's a question i've been contemplating for 10 years of my life. why do some people want to change the world and why do some people just want to live happy lives. Me, i'm the side of changing the world and i'm not sure why lol. is it because i am visionary or perhaps something else, who knows . I just always thought to myself you've only got one life, (this was before non duality obviously) why would you not spend it doing the hardest thing possible (outside of enlightenment which is the hardest thing, the second hardest thing is directing the direction the world is turning) So you think its only a stage in life for him? you know i wanted to get a tattoo once when i was 15 saying watch me change the world, (when i was naive), the temptation to change things has never left me so far. so how did you let it go?

@Joseph Maynor its simple human nature, when you understand a system so wholy after years of studying, you start to see gaps in the pattern emergence, if were really taking oneness to be the truth then at any given stage it is within any of us reading this post, to build the foundations for future humans, to then build more foundations. the process is never ending, let me ask you something? do you not have the strong urge to be on the cutting edge to revolutionise?

@tecladocasio you will be a chicken that gets eaten lol! isn't that great and amazing

I am currently trying to read, its a habit i've built up for 1 week now everyday reading for 30 minutes or so, however when i read what are some techniques to understanding better. do i need to visualise while i read?

@tecladocasio im talking about any type of reading technique, what is this technique ? @okulele so you would ask yourself questions about the topic every once in a while?

from my understanding its because self-actualisation itself requires you be at a certain ripeness or situation in your life where you act upon the need to hunt the truth yourself, otherwise it would be converting people to a so called better life and it will change it into a perspective, by not advertising it ensures that the natural perspective of the seeker is kept.

@Serotoninluv just when you think you got it caged, you realise ohh man i'm going to need a bigger cage ahah, i thought maybe there would be some juristriction or ground i could create to get a foothold in turquoise, but i guess your right its not so easy and has much more depth as do all the other levels. definatlely already realised that practice is the only form of turquoise can take when dealing with spirituality and consciousness work. anyways thanks for answering Q.

is turquoise about finding a haloistic system to fit into a model, because the problem is that by having so many open ended and deterministic factors for any given system, there's no way to find a perfect model but more like a fluid system that morphs around changes and adjust accordingly. is this what halocratic thinking is like practically speaking?

@Serotoninluv thought id watch leo's video of turquoise again to much understand better, found out that i'm basically center of gravity is yellow, i have not yet seen the limitations of modelling to solve the worlds problems but i also know that because consciousness is the worlds problems and technically the view of having an ego, i see that i am begginner level turquoise, but i haven' taken any steps into actually going into turquoise, i do not believe that material possession, equality amongst all people will solve the worlds problems, but i do believe thinking in systems will and thats as far as i can go with my LP BECAUSE i do not wish to talk about consciousness and the real one problem that creates all problems. i do not have enough experience and knowledge i have built up to teach lol, what do you think of this decision? i wanted to know turquoise to see if i can integrate it into my life purpose, what will i do however, is intergrate eastern philosophy into systems thinking.