Aakash

that love is unconditional

is this not the same thing ? form is nothing and meaning and meaningless

@Tetcher :'( do you understand how profound it is, to say that god is infinitely maximising good for everything and so leaves nothing to chance don't you realise how much that changes everything we know

@now is forever leo's new profound insights however show that nothing is not meaningless, its happening perfectly as should be, to maximise the benefit to all things. ironically the second thing i found most profound today.

@Preetom its ironic, the most profound thing i've heard today from leo are two things, i'm only going to mention 1, but its amazing how hard it is to get a grasp of infinite power, form exists as god, so god is form, it is hologram illusory i think he's trying to say and not illusory in the way to word means it. can you image your hand only as a hologram, that looks real, this is what i meant by reality being inside a massive brain, where anything can be imagined into existance, almost instantly. deep sleep exists in the reality, inside god, so where you think this physical world is seperate from the dream like state, well in fact they are exactly constructed of the same thing, consciousness or god or the holographic illusion

what is the difference and how does ego play a role in this? (note: even if we are talking about trans-ego)

@TheAvatarState i see, thank you all for your words, i think i have grasped an understanding from a merger of all your statements.

so lets work through this, when i surrender all identity but that i am god, and attachments, so when i become desireless? i already don't think i'm in control, the more total i see gods power, the more i realise that we are the same thing, regardless of what choices/ actions are made.

@Highest Thiis what i'm trying to figure out, after you become conscious then they are god, then they start acting like god basically . so how can it be egoic, when its the truth?

@FoxFoxFox so foxfox do i become more godly by being selfless?

@thesmileyone none the less it would be the truth, because all of these experiences are for the survival of reality as it is.

@Serotoninluv whats your thoughts on the attachment to the identity of being god? for example, living life for the rest of your life thinking you are god. which is not the same as letting go and being present in the moment and acting like god.

@now is forever thats life, gotta enjoy masterbating while it lasts @FoxFoxFox I am already aware of this, @thesmileyone yup this is what i mean by higher and lower consciousness, more godly vs less godly what i mean to say guys was, if i become more godly do i do this by becoming 100% selfless not i want to become god, i already am aware that i'm god :')

@Serotoninluv yeah i remember a conversation we had a month ago about turquoise, i think i'm starting to enter into it and understand what it truly means and especially the trans-rationality of it, whats the trap entered? thinking your at the finish line?

@FoxFoxFox makes sense, as it should be none the less, but yes the paradox will still be, you will be the very thing that you were before you were struck. as you said theres no such thing as duality or experience , or perception etc.. so if i wanted to become god, and become more positively charged, do i have to just become completely selfless.

@Serotoninluv sounds to me that @FoxFoxFox seems to know what hes talking about, when hes speaking.

@FoxFoxFox so your telling me to renounce my name in a way? and be the thing that i am, which is god?

@FoxFoxFox yes and that would be the highest god state! which is consciousness itself, a true non-dual consciousness , until then we have to adhere to higher or lower terminology and a seperate 'conscious of' state because we do not know for ourselves, until you explore all possibilities which will take a life time possibly. correct me if i'm wrong please, i'm losing my losing my chain of thought haha

@FoxFoxFox yes that was what i was trying to get at ultimately, but thinking your in love is a concept that was the distinction i was trying to say is the created version.

@mandyjw You lot are missing the most crucial part lol, by higher and lower states of consciousness, all it means is different levels of being god, one person can be more god like than another person and so on, but they are always in the same consciousness, because THEY ARE god itself. conscious of states are different.

@tecladocasio that is exactly what leo said in his notes and video though, leo said that truth and love are exactly the same thing and therefore it is both the facet of self, and a creation of your mind because the creation is i am in love (emotion) but the truth is love is all that exsist around you they are not the same type of love, everything is good TM ahah

@tecladocasio i get your point which is why i said your right in a way to think the way you do, etc. i can't explain the thought process, the end goal is the same, the ways to get there a different for everyone.

@tecladocasio ahhh dude, life is crazy man, some of the stuff hes saying is so direct its not believable. but what can you do

before leo went on his grand expedition to the centre of the universe, i too shared the same thoughts as him. I don't think i've been as deeply absorbed as himself, however i can vouch to the problem of skepticism that he shows when dealing with consciousness work, within a logical frame work they make sense and within a god consciousness frame work it also makes sense. but the problem is only one can be right. The teachers are not wrong when they say that you can not grasp infinity, because there's no way to know if your right or wrong, but there are holes in their understanding and god- logic which they don't account for. which leo is not taking for granted, he's saying the holes can be discovered and found out, which is what it means to understand infinity. So these awakened beings are awoke, there is just different degrees. your point is also valid aswell, he could be mental masterbating, but what you have not considered are infinite variables to any given event and therefore fall short with the need for a decisive answer to reach a particular end goal, aka your at a lower stage of consciousness and can't grasp the logic leo is using to decipher the puzzle. None the less, he has solved the problem with a few simple words ironically and that is the point is to become god and live life as god. you might have to intuite what i mean, but basically it means he's right and the enlightened masters are also right,as well as he could be wrong and the enlightened masters are wrong because becoming infinity means there is no wrong infinity, there's just the matter of degrees of consciousness and the highest, what does it mean to be the highest consciousness? understanding the whole of infinity and what god is which means understanding you are god,

@Shin i feel like everyone here is just overcomplicating things and talking in riddles. insanity is just another word for 'out of the ordinary' where there is no metric system to measure your position on a pathway. It feels like your lost, i.e surrendering to the truth, how do you know you've surrendered up to the half way point, your directionless. hence you feel like your going insane. however, its even more simple than that. If becoming god means that you live in an insane manner to the devils way. Then insanity is correct. joseph's point was more towards how you feel about being insane i would say. whether it feels normal or totally wrong is besides the point, the point is to have the courage to take the path less chosen if yourself wishes to actualise yourself as god