Aakash

@Highest yeah it is bro, it looks so beautiful aswell even though its all an illusion :'), you'll get there! i'm sure you'll find a way to get better and better at surrendering until you won't even remember your own name, because youd have been in true nature for too long.

@Highest Nice, thanks for giving me some confirmation on the edge of the world, its given me new encouragment to go forward

@Highest its actualising god's movements, but i'm not sure past this because i haven't even stabalised in the edge of the world yet, so i'll take it from there when i get it. were literally talking about 100% possession here

@Highest yeah i'm actually secretly super happy about it ahaha, but i couldn't sustain it, so i have to keep going back and thats probably going to take a couple of years to get down. it must feel pretty normal having done it for 14-15 months now, or are there still sometimes you find it difficult to sustain?

but thats what death of experience would be, it would be all disindentificiation with I thats definately the end goal, because the person being conscious of the whole of reality is still having a subject/ objective experience, they're still in duality. or are they not because in duality purely because they've given up the identification with reality, ahhh i can't explain what i mean very well

ohh i became conscious of it, i was outside of it, hence call it on the egde of the world. looking at the 3d ball would be a hallucination if that happened lol

@Highest the glimpse of being at the edge of the world. that is what i'm talking about it was like if you could squeeze the whole of reality into a 3d ball then looking at that 3d ball as its playing in real time or the eternal moment is the awakening i had

i'm not sure i'm using the right words but lets assume buddah reached perfect enlightenment, which means he gave up 100% of identification, a) we can assume that knowledge has nothing to do with awakening b) we can assume that all I must be given up giving up the I in this case, would also mean giving up the I OF the observer... i mean your already at the edge of the world so that could only mean one thing death lol complete death of experience itself, final liberation

@TheSomeBody the answer to your questions is yes, this time round they were some of the deepest most profound insights i have heard from anywhere. the logic used to work them out was also displayed, was viable and conclusive the suggestions he made about the absolute. i mean i've learnt its still monkey mind but you know they were deep deep insights to how reality works. i'm tempted to say full proof aswell.

i mean i lost the view, but it's been an hour since i had the awakening experience, would this be the proper awakening then even though it was only a glimpse at the truth. dude doesn't it feel like your in a different world when your in the edge of the world and your aware of reality unfolding before you.

YUP glad i'm able to stick up with the language... have you considered there might be deeper to go? to give up the sense of self experiencing reality (if you get what i mean)

@Highest So how long have you been conscious of the edge of the world. mines has been an hour and counting

@Highest WHICH ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS GODDDDDDDDDDDDD/ VOIDDDDDD/ CONSCIOUSNESS

@Highest its ironic that suffering and seeking go hand in hand, i think a new term i'm going to use for self -realisation is "the edge of the world"

@Mikael89 sorry lol i thought i could help, but my logical explanations are not up to scratch

@Mikael89 have you ever taken yourself( ego) out of the equation, life goes on... so this would systematically imply that there is a design outside of our control. The problem here, is that the level of consciousness you have to be at, to take yourself out of the equation is dependant on what you identify with and the level of attachment. once you do, you can see how everything is already out of our hands and things are always going to happen, exactly as they should. this is how you can see that survivial is survival of the design of reality and not the individual you (self (not Self)) perfection is that everything is happening in turn in an infinite sectrum or is happening in eternity, how do we know, again because we are not the ones who are in control and therefore its a transcendance perfection not just perfect but absolutely perfect that you can't even fault it in any way. if humans were given the power of god directly, they wouldn't be able to come up with the design itself and thats why theres no point giving humans the direct power to create anything, unless you willed it yourself (as god) but so far there has been none obviously lol.

yeah, its ironic, you have to realise that i is an illusion, something thats beyond no self, you'll then enter pure awareness from this point your aware of the design of life and that reality is happening even when your not an i, your just aware of it. so its almost like posession, well i say almost because your already possessed because your already god, but its like being re possessed

i think leo is right with this one, science can only accept non duality if they take the personal experiences of people as their subjective measurement and not physical materialist things.

@now is forever by that i mean only important for the survival of reality itself, for invidual perspective that means, whats important to our own survival, your going to have to remind me, whats the one thing thats truly infinite awareness/god

I just had an awakening SECOND, literally a second where i had a break through of disidentifying with my body mind, and lost the identification I, there is a design because the thought that you are an i, is the very delusion itself. There is no i, at the end of self -inquiry when you try to identify the I, its no longer localised and you can't find it, because you realise it was never there. There is no you, so what happens at this point? well its almost like i merged with the design for example, i went to pick up my tea, but it was all done through reaction and causation links, i.e neurone response, i never actually was the one drinking the tea, it was like being aware of god's design, without even calling it a design, it was just happening if i hyperextend that mode with my logic now and bring back my mind into it now i've seen the design, i would say that suffering is important to let us know that what is important is important.

what do you Really need to worry about then? nothing, so life is good

@FoxFoxFox Yeah i totally get that, that's what i feel like the line of work is, progresing to a stage of complete being instead of a complete thinker. anyways thank you for your help, i've been stuck on these questions for 2 months now without a way to express it until i somehow found the words now! Thank you.

@Preetom thats a valid enough point, but i guess that's just the line of work it can't be help. it certainly is the problem that would occur when following a person who is not completely self-realised, but i would just say his approach is more for those with monkey mind and who are interested in philosophy, ignoring the holes in other enlightened being's logic is easy when in the end silence and non-identification is all you need to become enlightened. but the harder route is to solve them i guess. The overlap can become confusing and you might end up getting lost.

alright i'm with you and in agreeance, its pretty much as i figured, awareness shouldn't know that it is awareness, it should just be awareness without there being one who is aware of being aware aka pure awareness finally, just to confirm, silence is the way to get rid of identification.

i've kept up with his theories, but from what i've noticed. none of them actually contradict each other? which ones have you noted