Aakash

yeah this is true sorry i didn't understand the analagy you used, can you use another

@Serotoninluv umm that there is no you. and that you is witness consciousness, since you get immersed in the story line, i guess that means you haven't but you also seems very intelligent and literate that i wouldn't put it past you to be playing coy. i could just never tell, so i'm just asking out of curiousity lol

@Shaun the truth is always too much to handle for our selves, i garuntee that everyone feels like that in this line of work, who likes getting told that there is no free will? what your saying is not a lie, it can drive people crazy but its not like he's doing anything wrong in the sense of saying the truth, its unforunate that its a hard pill for people to swallow .

@Serotoninluv have you ever had a glimpse of self realisation? or do you play coy like you don't know what it is ?

@SoonHei nice realisation, this is where i got stuck for 2 months, really notice how that awareness is not yours and you'll progress to the next realisation question: is this awareness true for other people? is this awareness a sensation do i have to force myself to be this awareness? is there any more steps i need to take?

@SoonHei it doesn't make a difference, because the happiness that you talk about is different to real happiness anyway, sure a person can be happy with false happiness and seek enlightenment but ultimately i think they will want to experience real happiness after they deconstructed their viewpoint on happiness . its dumb but non of the words we use actually represent the truth sadly. hence i've realised its only after you realise what self-realisation is that you understand words.

@Truth Addict its a weird one, but i don't think you can have unconditional happiness unless your self-realised, sounds more like a rejection than an acceptance you have to be genuinely happy if your house was on fire and you were about to die, that's real happiness , just the way you analyse it, is different as you believe your still a seperate self

finally understand the advita trap :') there is no you masterbating, but when you are in identification then its psychologically taxing for you because one day you will have to give it up anyway, so better start now rather than later. but if you can't help it , don't feel to bad about it!

@Highest i was just laughing at the fact there is no luck is all

@Highest looooooooooool! FUCKING GOD! <3

@Highest i see, yeah i guess this is the 0th step taken. ahhwell ill just give it my all, and hope that it comes to me one day lol i see so your surrender was the medium type

i'm trying to surrender to my identification with everything and just basically me being the one in control of my life

@Highest i'm not sure that i follow to be honest.

literally if its doing it on its own, i might aswell just give it up but i'm confused how to! i mean i feel like i'm on the last hurdle, my whole spritual life leading up to this very moment ahah

it is both, when collapsing duality, you have to realise they are the same exact things so uniquely same individual , ahh tough break man, if thats the case, then stick by your answer and i guess, just put all your resources into becoming enlightened, its obviously the thing you want.

yeah i didn't mean you specifically, i know there is no you doing it , i meant as the witnessing consciousness, how do you go about your life lol, yup that certainly makes sense, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i just can't figure out a technique for surrendering,

@Highest i see so i have to radically change my view, i can't half-ass it anymore and simply know that its not real, so what type of activities do you do, would you mind explaining how you are able to do them as witness consciousness i can't seem to blend the two, like theres discrepancies in my witness times by a couple of hours (loads maybe 8-10)

@Paul92 yeah i get that, just follow that hint, but still you are the one who's incontrolled in an unenlightened state, so i would just see the wisdom behind the words taking 100% responsibility for your life, this way your depression will go in a while. if your able to replay the scenarios and understand why the break up happened, it has less of an effect on you. for me it took me 1 years to heal from mines, but i'm better off for it.

yeah thats what i mean, SO how do you view your thoughts, do you read them in sentences for example, i am happy today, because the sun was out and then repeat it to yourself, i just thought of the sentence: i am happy today, because the sun was out also does the world exist to you anymore , because it shouldn't. i realise it exist to myself, which is a delusion.

ahh dude, thats exactly how i started a path, and got onto leo's page, watch his video about breakups in which he said once its done, its done, it would be counter-productive for your growth if you went back because you would be repeating the same mistakes over again. but i feel ya, all you can really do is just sit with the pain and notice how your ego took control of the situation, don't blame yourself , just take 100% responsibility for your life and your actions, this way you don't become the victim of your tragedy. just keep doing the practice, it'll take your mind of the break-up.

@Highest question: do you see the world from a 3rd person perspective as if everything is happening and playing out as it should be.

@TheWaterRuss wow dude, spreading interesting techniques! i hope they work for people

self-realisation is the knowing of yourself as god the qualities of god are merely only words... they can be claimed as absolute, when constructed into an infinity model, i would say that is a modelled theory of infinite variables with a constant but in truth they can't be talked about because anything statments made about it, is not it but you can still say it has qualities like infinite love, blissful, peaceful in it the end these are only hollow words you can only be the very thing that is your true self thats consciousness, perfect unity consciousness. the thing that IS: the whole of reality itself