Aakash

@Joseph Maynor yeah your not wrong there, well since it hasn't personally affected me, i can't really say much about it. However, if you seriously think its a problem that should not be overlooked. then i support your claim. but you haven't really linked your point to how this relates to nondual wars and the need to clarify it. aswell as free flowing ideas, is this a seperate issue or part of your argument for the need for an apparel system

@Joseph Maynor you mean by a moderator, in giving them out since they dislike you and show more bias towards giving you points , i mean i don't think the moderators are that shallow, i've had the priviliage of talking to most of them and they seem quite impartial to making personal attacks. i personally think all the moderators chosen are really good and leo's selections were justly made, the ones i'm talking about are seratonin luv, key elements, cetus, nahm, i apologies in advance, if i've just made an assumption and that isn't what you meant, but i mean if its only because it can get abused, i don't think you need an apparel system, however, i'm in agreeance about the need for something to be done about free flowing ideas but its hard because you can't do anything about advitta trapping because people hold false beliefs. aswell as general behaviour.

what are the consequences of a warning point, i just thought it was a slap on the wrist

@cetus56 yep okay thats a clear definition, but not what i would have understood from interpreting the term non-duality wars, maybe it does need an update

okay i'm done, thank you for your answers, you've given me good direction over the past 3 days

@cetus56 @Joseph Maynor i think you two have both misunderstood eachother's interpretation of the word hostile, hostile to me is written abuse and bullying / belittling of another person which i think cetus means but i think joseph means the hostility of ideas to someone elses ideas i'm pretty sure these are two different things

i thought non duality wars was simply ohh my teachings are right and yours aren't because my teachings say this which means your teachings are wrong, thats what is basically stated in the rules

@Highest so its also a belief to say there are different qualities of consciousnesses?

@cetus56 yeah but like your not saying that's a bad thing right because that would disregard everything we do on this subforum

@Highest i see this split in my reality makes sense now, i think i can work on it and hopefully i will get rid of the I THANKYOU much love bro it was a belief that there was two different levels of consciousnesses happening at one go, one who was in the world of impermanence and was living a normal human life and then one that was witnessing it the human living his life but in reality that's what's happening its just one consciousness level, i just haven't got used to it.

@Joseph Maynor @cetus56 if you really want to get into the heart of things there is no structure to our debates each person says their beliefs and then the conclusive evidence behind it, so its a pretty closed arguements theres also the problem that people don't have examples and metaphors to back up their points, its the only way people understand things more deeply in this line of work

@Highest i see so you saw everything as consciousness, this is where i was was talking about during the day, with my sense of self feeling like its in two seperate realities, i did consider that if everything is consciousness then what i was labelling would be wrong, so does that mean there's no such thing as two different consciousness in the ultimate sense, reality is just one consciousness but because we think there is an i with a seperate self that there is a something being conscious of and therefore it seems like there are different consciousness also i apologies if i am asking too many questions, its just i have so many after that breakthrough, everything's being recontextualised and its more clear than ever before

@Highest i'm totally in agreeance with you, its just i haven't done much meditation work , i might do it and go to its pinnacle and if it correlates with what i find to be the answer to self inquiry then i'll just stick with that consciousness feild thats another question does it feel like an infinite consciousness feild in which everything is happening and taking place but this world of happening is happening at a different consciousness level?

, i is still helpful when your talking to other humans, or classification is still helpful for daily functioning of life, i mean whenever i say i, i mean the god i not the self i, yup thats the idea, hopefully the practices will help with this

@Highest i see well you are certainly in a god then if your aware of it, i understood things alot more clearly today, don't know how i'm going to get to your level of consciouness :') lol, but i guess ill try by identifying with the one who is aware of everything going on in my life

@Highest does this recontextual happen by itself or did you have to change everything yourself by forcing yourself to think of everything as god

a) so when you sleep are you aware your sleeping in a visual, or did sleep never occur? b) so when you are eating are you aware that you are a human eating or are you god eating god in nothingness c) when you are watching a video are you aware of a human watching a video or aware of the eye visuals behind watching a video

is the love humans feel the same as infinite love?

@Highest okay now i'm starting to understand things, so when you sleep are you aware your sleeping in a visual, or did sleep never occur? i have a feeling you can't name it because you have to keep it identity free, i think you have to remain in silence about it, this is the gut feeling experiencing

@Highest interesting question as god, does the awareness of a thought come after the thought has happened or are you able to maintain awareness that you are having a thought during the time it is happening also nice to meet you god, :')

@Highest i see i guess thats how it should be thank you both for helping me so much

@Highest thank you, but i have one question what about bringing the witness consciousness back through your human form to improve your subconscious i.e the desires of your characters etc, is this something you are doing as witness consciousness or is the purification happening on its own?

@Highest yeah i've started forgetting myself as an seperate individual, i can't deny it anymore, its just stabalising in a witness consciousness that i'm struggling with. i keep going back to my human consciousness (identification as a human self) its ever so subtle, but it drags me in for a while, until i get back to the witness consciousness and i haven't given up my life to chance lol, i can't seem to simultaneously keep both running that is letting my body,mind , thoughts move on their own and the true "i" keep witness over the fact that nothing is happening and its all an illusion.

@Joseph Maynor yeah thats a good point, however, most people here havent experienced it so they're going to be theorising until it comes home, its a trap we all fall into so eventually we can lay people straight from those who have fallen into the trap if they are right or wrong because its as you said people become attached to their ideas which isn't healthy. none the less, if it works for them it works for them, again they won't think they're wrong and so won't continue to deconstruct again. as a teacher you correct, as a student you let go there may not be one right way to it, but there's still a correct enlightenment truth which we are all trying to get to, otherwise i see no point of being on this sub-forum. so its better just to correct someone there and then instead of being so indirect about it and letting them continue, i've had to shed my viewpoint alot of times and at the time it may not have been what i wanted, but its benefit me all the more

the "i" is the one who is detached from the whole of reality basically everything that exists EVERYTHING its is not that "i" but the remaining "i" left over awareness of nothing happening silence