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If you think psychedelics are an easy tool you have little to no experience with them, they will literally bring you to hell (purgatory, it's not eternal hell which doesn't exist... thank God) at the right/high dosages. Martin Ball is an indisputable example that after "going to hell with them" a bunch of times (how many depends on your "soul age") you attain liberation. This is not to shit on your "messiah-complex" argument, I too suspect that Leo and many other are on such ego-trip, and I don't judge them for it, it's just another trap of the many people fall in to. The solution to any of these traps is KNOWLEDGE, which is lacking in the current "spiritual environment" because of multiple reasons, too long to write here. Anyway if my arguments brought even a little bit of doubt in your own "current knowledge" of spirituality I advice you to check this website where you find all sources on which I base my "apparently arrogant viewpoint" on: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedruntonirvana/wiki/phase3

God is not a "singular entity", how can the part be bigger than the whole? God = All That Is (reality/creation is not black and white but different shades of grey).

Taking breakthrough doses is way harder than any other spiritual practice, if you think it's an "easy fix" you probably have little to no experience with it. Anyway the extended explanation of why "old" spiritual practices are not effective for most people can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedruntonirvana/wiki/phase3

It's "really" effective on large doses like other "spiritually useful" psychedelics, but the problems are that the effect lasts way too long and you risk overdosing and clinically dying from it. Many clinics offer it both in EU and US but they don't usually give large enough doses (at huge prices too), so stay away. These clinics say that it's a good rehab method for heroin addicts, which is true in some cases (if the intent to quit an hard addiction was already there, many other methods would have been effective too, but most people don't know about "real spirituality" and fall back in to hard addictions few months later anyway = if the root problem is not addressed these are just temporary fixes).

We will never cure ageing/death, technology has its limits. Just because it accelerated so much in the last years doesn't mean it will go on to infinity. Look at CERN's hadron collider new discoveries, they just hit a wall they know they can't break.

This is coming from both personal experience and study of trip reports, so what more do you want? When the trip gets too intense you'll have literally no control over it. You can't move so there is no physical risk involved at that point, the only risk is that if you smoked it the effect will be too short, so your bad trip will leave you in a state of psychosis/PTSD for 1-2 weeks approximately. This is why lsd and plugged 5-meo-dmt are better (they last longer, so the bad trip will lead to a nirvana state). The problem with these ROA is that the come-up is slower, so if you're already in a depressive state you risk committing suicide to end the pain of the bad trip (before it's too overwhelming to be able to commit it). So the best advice is to take high doses (not smoked) and lock yourself with a lock with timer and handcuffs to something solid. Anyway it's always better to get a taste of "the dak side/bad trip" with small doses when starting this psychedelic game. The best and safest way to do it is taking a microdose of either LSD, mushrooms or iboga and smoke a microdose of cannabis (together). Sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedruntonirvana/wiki/phase3

Bollocks.

He has physical problems. Physical, even Ramana died of cancer, so your point is invalid. Look into Jan Esmann too, he is going through "brain related health issues" (and he is "very high level enlightened", a concept he introduced, although it's mentioned in ancient Indian literature too).

(can be used recreationally on low doses) Discuss:

1) DMT (maybe only when you first try it (on low doses)) 2) Just one example: 5-meo-DMT

Say Sadhguru said psychedelics are good. Most of his adience would just start using recreational drugs. So even if he knew that only few psychedelics used in a specific way (high/breakthrough doses or no party) give you nirvana, it would still be more compassionate for him to give the exact answer he gave there.

Martin Ball. /Thread

Yes, just be far enough from places you can run to for help and don't bring your phone unless you have a good friend you know you can talk to who understands what a bad trip is and doesn't judge/ruin your life for it (like calling your parents isn't the best idea).

I don't know Leo, I tried sub-breakthrough doses a shit-ton of times and they just make me feel bad (proportional to the dose taken). I honestly don't think it's just a self-fulling prophecy, maybe it's different for you because you're an older soul than me (more reincarnations, a Michael Teaching concept)?

So you're saying permanent nirvana/actualization isn't a thing? Ok, I guess Buddha and company were/are just impostor then.

Pretty spot on report, spirituality is not the easy answer spiritual teachings make it seem to be. It's hard core stuff, but life is hard core anyway, people think wars and intense suffering are just a thing of the past or for the unfortunate minorities, but wait till you read what happens to you after you'll die: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedruntonirvana/wiki/phase3

Thanks for the advice guys... Anyway I still "stand" on what I studied and experienced on my sub-breakthrough trips: enlightenment doesn't make any fricking sense (on a rational level). Look at Sadguru's last talk at his festival, and Bashar's main teaching: hard work is not the answer, the path of least resistance is gonna get you to the net goal faster for some no-reason (so meta, I know).

This proves my theory that intent and preparation are not needed to take high/breakthrough doses.

You don't even explain why getting drunk isn't a good idea. I read that book and prepared myself with smaller doses and meditation, and anyway, if you did read my previous posts on this thread you'd know I don't agree on the "intent/preparation" argument anyway (this recent post confirms my opinion: )

I just can't gather the courage/motivation to take a rectal breakthrough dose guys. I'm too scared of the hell I know for sure I'd be going through before the switch to bliss. Do you think getting drunk before doing it would be a good idea and would it require a bigger dose to breakthrough?

Simple logic says that the part (single consciousness) cannot get bigger than the whole, but reality is illogical too, so I don't know.

So after realizing how hard attaining actualization is for me and most other people (those who haven't already done most of the work in previous lives and need to use psychedelics and go through intense bad trips, see my site for info and sources on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedruntonirvana/wiki/phase3), I honestly wished I could forget everything about spirituality (I still often do) and be like most other people who just live by the day doing whatever the fruck they do (you know the drill). But then I look at them or try to put myself in their situation and I realize: that's just fracking boring, isn't it?

Ask it what's the date I'll die of cancer please (as of today)?

Yeah ok enjoy masturbating with your mind, that will surely bring you to no-mind.

I think you can actually breakthrough with weed, but you need to eat a literal shitload of it (plus not taking it for 2 weeks to avoid tolerance).