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Just do it and let us know how it went.

Hey Leo! What if your understanding or the formulation of that understanding is also corrupted by human bias?

@Fearless_Bum could you elaborate a bit on what was your practice? also - what is the nature of those shifts? what's the difference between then and now? what's your current moment to moment experience like?

Have you considered stepping out in the world and challenging yourself now?

I think by shoving the absolute truth, in this specific domain where we're trying to figure out what the relative truth of the matter is, it amounts to nothing but mockery of that.

Ever considered that you might end up doing the same unintentionally?

Yes! This needs to be said out loud. Leo isn't infallible and there's isn't anything wrong with making mistakes and accepting them. Even though the manner in which those mistakes are pointed out seem to be vendetta. That distortion still has a degree of truth to it that needs to be looked upon. I don't get why everyone here is out here to defend Leo like he's some sort of guy who can possibly never go wrong.

Yes he probably did that. But what he ended up saying about Leo for a few moments seems to be a very valid critique that could be up for discussion.

And you will also realize why I created you then @Inliytened1

Look in the mirror and repeat with me. I AM THE HIGHEST TRUTH I AM THE HIGHEST TRUTH

How dare you talk about anything social or anything less than the highest TRUTH? I'm you, you're me. This is all imagination. GET THIS OR GTFO!

That which is being discussed here before you came in with your highest TRUTH and started shoving it here lol

Just hammering that other people are not real and what you see is a figment of your own imagination. Is that what everything you want reduce everything down to? Also no one is talking about the TRUTH here. We're talking about a very specific relative truth.

lmao this is getting so funny and ironic. The mod totally lost in his own point is claiming that the OP is lost in himself.

Cool - but how is this relevant to what the OP posted in the first place Do we drop all the reasoning and analysis because of what you've said?

Nihilism is also just another meaning. The mind is quick to urn meaninglessness and interpret it as a lack of meaning and it has a specific kind of charge. That's not what it means. Meaninglessness simply means - meaning does not exist. It's a concept created by the mind to assign value to things.

We think we've figured it out. It's all ONE. You're enlightened cut to there is no enlightenment. Is Understanding=Truth? Whatever insights you got, whatever you understand is always gonna be relative and a story. The narration and story of what's happening and how it is happening isn't necessarily what's happenining. You realize you're just making stories for something that is or isn't happening. And when you map it out in a framework, that's just more of bullshit. And whatever is or isn't happening is distinct from that story or understanding. It doesn't require that story/narration. It happens after. Even insights are relative People say there's no magic. But what you are is truly magic. There is no explanation for it. And yet is every explanation ever. And beyond every explanation. it's a mystery. There are infinite explanations and infinite meaning for everything. And you just gotta leave the words and stories behind at some point. However great they sound, and however grandeur your notions of oneness is. Silence is supreme.

Hey yo! You can DM me if you're ever in and around Mumbai or need any help while you're here. It would be nice to have an opportunity to interact with you.

I deeply care about understanding. But, it's not just the understanding I care about. It's also about putting the man on the moon based on that understanding is what I care about. I value your approach to understanding as understanding being a model itself without any utalitarian justification. What I would like to know from you is this - where would you like to draw the distinction between working on a practical aspect where you can have a system to see and track changes v/s mental masturbation.

Leo how do you reckon conceptual understanding can bring about an actual change unless you embody it? How much do you think embodying an insight and rewriting the narrative around you is important? Does your conceptual understanding directly co-relate with your behaviour and acts or is it mutuailly exclusive? How can you cause a structural change with conceptual understanding? Do you think laying down structures that are the embodiment of all those nuggets of understanding is a better way perhaps to display understanding that comes after those conceptualization frameworks You have done tremendous work with actualizated.org and it stands as one great example of that How do you plan to not get lost in conceptualizaton and these grandeur ideas and measure actual growth.

I'm happy that they'd to purge their content. So most of the videos now are officially shot and I want them to continue in this direction. There still must be a ton of good porn to watch. Pornhub will never die.

The only solid way to get this question answered for yourself so that you actually grasp what you're asking and what it really means is by tripping.

The very thing that lends illusion it's illusory-ness is reality. The distinction between reality and illusion is also illusory or real. Those two terms aren't actually opposite. They cannot exist without each other. Delusion is always a reality. It's just the degree to which you choose to delude yourself determines what is your truth.

This is something that I find very interesting and have been researching myself as well. Thanks for putting such a detailed post. And update us with your progress.

This is where you can draw some boundaries to create a structure. Everything that is, is real. The distinction between imagination v/s reality is just more imagination and also made out of reality. Yes you can dream up anything while you're asleep. And yes that is real. However, you can do the same in your waking reality?