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I'm not sure. I can't say anything now, I haven't looked into security. How to be aware of this?

Never thought of this, what does security actually mean? The security that I will get pleasure? That I will "secure" a pleasure at least?

I know what you're exactly talking about. I've done this observation before. It happens to me with food. So "I" love eating junk food when watching movies at night, sort of a tradition of mine . When I get the food at the supermarket, I get excited, but then I put awareness on this excitement and it's just as you have said. I re-experience the experience of me enjoying my fatass watching Netflix, and the pleasure from it. Then... When I actually do the eating and watching, it is never like the previous experience. When I finish, I get realisation of "well, that wasn't as good as last time". To be honest, it's more now like "why did I do that?" I get excited, then disappointed, I don't know where this disappointment comes from though, and I don't think it's not from the previous experience or memory, it's something deeper, but I become extremely aware of it.

Memory?

That is true, I do have awareness. So this pleasure can be considered as an addiction like drugs? Is it worth doing some work on addictions as well?

I understand what you've said and coming from, and I agree with you. It's not really that I'm trying to resist the pleasure, I'm not, it's more about will I get addicted to this pleasure? And when I say addicted, it's not about this addiction not benefiting me but making me stuck

Not really. I don't even know why I'm pursuing in self-actualisation or any of this work. I don't want anything fixed in my life, I don't want pleasure. It use to be like that I guess until understanding a little bit more about duality and other concepts but now... It's just whatever, I'm doing it for no particular reason. By the way, I'm not depressed or anything. I don't resist the pleasure or anything like that. I don't encourage this as well, this is just my personal journey.

No, I fucking hate this. I'm not trying to pursue pleasure, that's the entire point ;( But I'm getting this pleasure from understanding duality and I don't know what to do with it. At the same time, I don't want to reject it because it's valuable observation but then, will I get addicted to this state?

I like this a lot. It's one of the insights I've recieved when meditating but I never accounted for the psychological "states" that occure, only the momentarily emotions. Yeah, I'm going I accept it. There is no use in rejecting but I feel like I will be addicted to the state So that's where my problem is coming from, I feel like I am receiving pleasure from the work to understand duality. I do get pleasures and security from it when I don't seek or want it . I observe it of course, and see how I'm receiving pleasure from being at peace. But then Is this peace false? I'm not really trying to understand or get caught up with this work, It's more about that I am receiving this pleasure from being "peace". What do I do with this? Thank you, I will have to give this a go, this is something needs exploring

@cetus56 @Etagnwo So this peace/comfortable is still a state, and being non-dual is still a state, meaning the goal is to not be in any of these states. At the same time, not having a goal either... I understand this can't be verbally communicated. So letting your mind be free is being in no-state. That's something I didn't think of. So what should I do with my current situation, how do I accept this comfort and peace? I want to be careful when these pleasing emotions/states occur because If I accept them and let them be which is what I do with all things, I could be attached/addicted to them I feel like if I accept them, I can't get out of them.

So, it's perhaps me being comfortable is leading to this dilemma, I just hope I don't become attached to this and feel like I need to attach to this belief

This is valuable. Finding a hobby or something else instead of gaming is a good way to distract yourself. Getting a job is better because you're literally forced to focus on it rather than playing videogames. Going to the gym is great as well since you'll get too tired for gaming

I say gradual. Just keep playing but play with awareness. Realise what the fuck you're doing, Observe the effect it has on you. For example, when you play, does it make you sad or happy? Angry or stress-free?, Whatever feelings comes up, observe it, observe the pleasure that comes, but don't judge it as bad or good, just observe and don't resist. You have plenty of time to remove the addiction and I find gradual is less painful... So don't feel guilty when playing But if you're hardcore as fuck, then DELETE everything like the others said.

The human is experiencing it. It's nice to say that everything is an illusion, but an illusion doesn't mean it's nothing. It is something, but we don't know what it is because we don't know what existence is. Nobody is experiencing the "experience", it's just the memory of the brain creating the illusion. There was nobody in the first place but the human, the human which is not you

Why do you want an experience in the first place?

This is basically Twitch.tv. Went from casual gaming streams to drama and personalities. Very competitive and toxic area in my opinion and would avoid

You'll probably do this. I don't play a game for self-improvement but for fun. Doesn't mean you should stop playing games, as games can help release tension but don't use it for spiritual practice. There are better practices to do to become more conscious. Sure the game makes you concentrate hard, but that doesn't mean shit. You can concentrate on an exam, driving, gym, reading, pretty much anything. Concentrate is in these terms are different to the concentration you're doing with spiritual practices. Spiritual practices include a variety of concentrations like no thinking, or letting go, or awareness, mindfulness. I don't see how you can get awareness of your thoughts in a game where you're being aware in the game rather than on yourself. Hey I might be wrong... Explore for yourself but watch out for traps

Firstly, I try avoid teaching people, I only give my opinions. I can't teach people because I don't actually know shit. I think it would take me more than 20 years to actually teach somebody these topics. That's just my view, don't teach unless you actually know your shit. Also, when we talk about self-actualisation, we can go into really deep and existential topics that can cause further damage to someone. So be sensitive to their feelings/mindset. It can be extremely scary and that's why I avoid it. Only show the way This leads to "don't teach people but show the way". The best teacher is yourself so show and introduce these topics, don't enforce it onto them Now i'm not accusing you of being stupid or anything, but it's important to recongise your limits so you can go beyond them. Just don't teach people anything, as it can be understood in the wrong way. But if somebody is actually asking for help from you, show the way, don't teach them it.

@cetus56Going to be honest, I don't even have a list. I really need one haha. I'll make one soon to work on the gazing, do some retreats. I think it's time

I read one of your replies about laying down meditation and I'm considering it. I think the laying down and staring deeply at the universe is an amazing thing. It's also like you are engulfed within reality and there is no escape. You have no other option but to be joyful Sadly, there is no stars over here in the city, damn light pollution

I wouldn't say perfection, but I would say complete. I can't be complete without the tree and the tree can't be complete if it wasn't for me. We're all in one existence that can't escape because there is no where to escape

I guess the point of this is that how ill humanity can be. Some people really love their comfort zones and I'm not judging them, I do the same. I think it's a good reminder that people don't always share the same views as ours and that we should be a bit more sensitive. If you look at their view, it is fucking mentally ill to go through this. They also think this work is supposed to benefit but it doesn't, when it actually releases us. It's that their disagreement with our views that causes us to be "mentally unstable". There is also the other side where self-actualization is hardship, uncomfortable, and scary (from the start, it was for me at least). So why would you go through all of this pain and suffering to become self-actualized. It's a brave thing to do Just gotta take time with them and don't try to persuade but be with them

Guten Tag! Look how amazing it is that you've observed your problems. Realise that, because that observation is being underestimated. You've been through so many other obstacles and you've passed everything single one and done so by observation. You will get through this. This is only one obstacle. So personally, hate your teacher and let all of those feelings out, because it's no good to bottle that stuff up. Now I don't mean to hurt or say mean things to your teacher. I mean purge your thoughts. Do some self-enquiry and just REALLY let out those feelings of hate and disagreement. When you do this, you've essentially purged out the thoughts. You can't actually stop these thoughts from recurring and that's because of memory. So instead, just be with the hate and disagreement. Hate that she forces her ideology onto you. Hate everything about her, because when you do this, you will purge AND will realise, this is fucking pointless. That realisation happens because you've done self-development before and you know how your ego works. Think of those thoughts/ego blocking the view. You gotta purge the view to see that there was no friction or problem in the first place. This also applies to anybody. Don't like somebody? Fuck it and hate them. Then you realise, there was no point of hating. Let your emotions FEEL. Eventually this leads to a state where your mind is calm, purged and loves everything Purge your thoughts, hate your teacher but do it in silence

Go deeper and deeper, FEEL THE DILEMMA. LOVE THE DILEMMA. That's what I would do. Sometimes, you gotta just stop thinking/understanding from your memory/knowledge and just go even deeper. I would say "fuck this uncomfortable zone I'm going to go deeper" inception style It seems that you made so much progression, and I do think it's the homeostasis affect. You're in your comfort zone and you say your life has quality now. Becoming a modern-sage is a rough task to do, and it's uncomfortable. That's why I put awareness on it and just say fuck it, go deeper.

I did some self-inquiry, and starting to agree now. I was at first disagreeing but now I've changed my view... It starts off like that I think, but then it sorts itself out. That's why I think if someone who thinks one is unstable because they seek understanding is someone who is still scared and needs to push through the pain.. But when actually understanding or seeking happens, it becomes neutral.