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That's exactly what I'm doing part time! I'm doing a course with the IKON institute about art therapy. But you can take art therapy much much more deeply than just curing mental health, you can use it to deconstruct attachments and help with enlightenment. In fact I remember reading about a Hindu temple builder and him talking about the art and science of temple building and how the designs actually help increase awareness or something like that. If you like technology you can play around with generative adversarial networks and use neural style transfer with certain buddhist art and see if you come up with some interesting results, but to be honest I think meddling with technology is a loosing battle, just my opinion though. EDIT: I have no idea, all I know is they have some pretty progressive courses about using psychedelic therapy and have great lectures on combining psychedelics with increasing awareness and improving mental health. I know that their model/way of researching these topics is something you can base your Vancouver group off.

the esalen institute and institute of integral studies is what you can use for inspiration. I actually work in Vancouver 3 months a yr and will be heading there next january. But I've recently lost interest/jumped ship from Technology/science and am now doing art, so I wouldn't add to your group.

hahahahahahahahah..... You're on the right track dude. To be clear, these are not valid strategies for enlightenment, what they are, is valid strategies for kindling people's curiosity for enlightenment. Getting them from not interested to interested. Leo has a video called content and structure, and what you can do is make the content so bizarre and strange that it gets people intrigued and questioning themselves. This is as far as you can go with enlightenment and technology, if you want to enlighten people and not just get them interested, that's where you need to teach techniques and theory - stuff technology does not deal with. I've spent the last 4 yrs trying to merge technology and spirituality, and have just realised that its impossible. If you want to help get people enlightened art is much better than technology. But you probably have built up an identity around you being a 'technologist' or a 'scientist' or a 'mathematician' and so thinking about entering art probably threatens your ego, so you'll be left with using the least effective option to the best of your abilities.

No not everyone is pursuing enlightenment for egoic reasons. You just haven't seen the ones that aren't because they are small in number. But even for the ones that are, there comes a time when they need to abandon their 'egoic reasons' because failing to do so retards their growth. There are no good reasons to pursue awakening. It happens because of a realisation you have. You do it naturally like how you naturally shit or eat food. They very process of figuring out what good reasons are and then using that is in itself egoic. You need to go meta on the entire motivation process you're using. But don't worry, if you have to ask, you aren't there yet, so keep doing what you're doing.

and then breatharianism was born

and then your market size drops to almost 0...

@The Don Honest answer is, if you need to ask that question then spirituality and awakening is not for you. If all you care about is happiness, then go do personal development, nutrition, play video games and watch movies. awakening becomes the only option once you've tried everything else. If you haven't tried everything else, then you wont be motivated enough to meditate to the levels needed to get real results. And it could also be possible that awakening doesn't even make you happy because right now loosing your attachments isn't what you need/want. A lot of people on here are pursuing enlightenment for the wrong reasons. They are pursuing it for egoic reasons, and they are just going to end up disappointing themselves once they get deeper into it.

So here I am, looking at God, and knowing and right now experiencing the fact that this whole actualized website and all its followers are "inside" God/the present moment, and that this forum is just a way for God to express itself, a mouth so to speak, I need an answer to this question I will write below. I have been severely depressed for the past year(and half depressed for the years before) I dont know why i was depressed for the years before, but just by walking in the park and contemplating, Ive just had an experience that explains why Ive been severly depressed for the past year. I feel like crying right now, just letting heaps of emotions out. Unfortunately I think crying is for girls so its hard for me to do that. I know now that my sever depression all along has been coming from that fact that deep down I know my loved ones are not real. I feel like my life is one of those plot twist movies like fight club or 6 sense. You know on the surface they are there. Their bodies, personalities. They are there. But deep down they arent really there. Behind the curtain there's Nothing. There's absolutely nothing. I dont know what to say. This is why Im depressed. This is why i have so much energy to cry. I told myself that Im depressed because im worried that my girlfriend will leave me, that my parents will disown me or die from cancer. But really its this. I can go sit with them now, eat dinner with them, watch movies with them. Im not saying I cant, i really can. But they are gone and I just feel like crying so much. Once this experience is over, and im back to ordinary life, this post will really make me cringe, but while im aware and conscious that this forum is God's mouth piece, please God tell me what to do.

Thankyou for the support

No, I live on an Island full of lazy, stubborn, harsh atheists/christians who have outdated, highly conservative views and laws.

because nice guys are just being nice to get the girl and they can sense that. Nice guys are only nice because they are afraid of sticking up for themselves. Nice guys are fake.

Im trying to use spiral dynamics as a way to expose myself to my hidden karmic patterns. For example I think a certain way, look at SD and then see how that way of thinking fits in with SD and explore ways that that karmic pattern can be more accurately observed. I cant seem to pinpoint myself on the scale. I dont resonate with any of the colours. Could it be that Im just not that focused on growing up, and am more focused on waking up? What questionaare or test can you do to accurately gauge the stage you most resonate with? I value experiencing the relative nature of Maya, looking at the universe from different perspectives, studying/observing meditatively the structure of my karmic patterns, studying/observing meditatively different stages of SD playing out in real life, How different perspectives, fit in, relate and cohensively integrate together to form highly intelligent patterns in consciousness. The list above does not really fit in SD and may be better suited for a waking up model instead?

Sure, you're in front of me, hidden im that present momenty stuff. Get out and show yourself!

@ZZZZ More precisely, they do exist, but what you thought they were doesn't exist. They are there and do exist, but that 'spark', that thing that made them special, doesn't actually exist, and you made that up. If you're a man, you can apply the same realization to hot women. Once you realize there is nothing special about hot women, and that specialness was arbitrarily made up by you, you can see that the only reason why you get turned on by hot women is because somewhere in your subconscious mind lies a script of programming telling your body to get horny when it recognises particular shapes and patterns resembling hot women... There is nothing hot about women, except for what you decide.

hahahaha exactly. How interesting. He's speaking to a mirror and reacting to the sounds waves bouncing off it and entering his ears.

By getting off your ass and figuring out those answers for yourself. We could answer 1 million of your questions, and yet you would end up as clueless as you are now.

Not from reading books, just from my experience of being in Hillsong Church, and going through college clubbing, have noticed something very very interesting. Each person has some values that they really admire and value. For blue stage people this tends to be sex after marriage, not commiting sins, listening to authority etc. While most of them dont fully live up to these values in practice, they bullshit themselves into believing they do. Them actually doing these things are engrained in their psyche and ego. And if you question whether they really do these things they get severly threatened. Its almost as if living up to these values are believed to be the only way to eternal happiness, and how happy you are is not determined by how happy you actually are, but by how well you live up to these values. And to remember these values, and ensure they keep on track, they go to church every sunday, where the priest spends several hours retelling the same story, the same values we have to live up to and why. It keeps the illusion going. Without church, people would forget how to be a good Christian, because these values are relative and arbitrary. But orange stage people are apparently above all of this. They use factual science to get real answers, and they know how stupid it is to live up to some arbitrary values written in a dubious book a thousand years ago. They know, the true way to get happy is to have lots of money, get real good at sex, get a lot of social approval, and be cool. But they also need a way to keep remembering this, because its not at all natural for humans to know what coolness, money, social status and fame is from instinct. If it is, why do monkeys not have an instinct to get more money? Why dont monkeys love cool glasses and hats and dresses? So orange stage people also need a way to remember these arbitrary rules, and thats where clubs, parties, alcohol cruises, etc come into it. These things are like churches: they remind people what happiness really means: money, social status, coolness and fame. They are a weekly reminder/indoctrination of the orange stage religion. thats it! Work is over! Time to have sex, hard drugs, and party all night! Women start putting on sexy looking dresses, heaps of makeup and high heels, guys do their hair to mimic their musician or film star they are into, cool looking glasses, and collar shirts. They do this because its a symbol, no not the cross, no not representing Jesus, but a symbol that represents a different belief system: money, sex, fame. By putting on these clothes, they are declaring their allegiance to the orange stage religion. They walk past the street, to get to the club, on their way they see others dressed like them. They wave in excitement. "They're one of us" they proudly think to themselves. They walk into the club, filled with people dressed like them, loving the same songs as them, having the same values as them. Its like a completely different world, so different to their real lives. They now remember what happiness really looks like, its this! Money, sex, fame. And their only job in the world is to get it. Thanks to the night club, they are reminded of what life is really about, and as they subconsciously think this, an AVCII song comes on, a classical hit, and then as they sing in ectasy everyone feels connected to each other, as if they are a single unit, all connected through common values of money sex and fame. I use to think I was bullied by the cool kids in school because there was something wrong with me, possibly a mental disorder, being weird, strange. But no, that wasnt the case at all. I made a huge mistake, and it took me till now to realize it: By choosing to wear ugly clothes, not support pop culture, and by acting uncool, I was basically offending evangelical devoutees of the orange stage religion. I was basically getting the bible and burning it in front of a Christian. No wonder they bullied me. And now you can see why extreme Christians and muslims hate alcohol and clubs, because its literally no different to committing yourself to a different religion. Going to church as a muslim or mosque as a catholic. Just like how you can tell how Christian a country is by how many active churches there are, you can also tell how orange stage a country is by how many active clubs there are in it too. My intention was not to demonize clubs, in fact this insight has given me the space to stop judging clubs so much and actually enjoy it. I believed so many things about clubs: they are a place for sluts, assholes, people with big egos, etc. from my bullying experiences im the past, and i really struggled to enjoy the place with so many judgments, but after this insight, it really puts clubs into perspective and allows me to see that these people arent evil, they are just unconsciously sucked into a belief system without knowing it. They really think money sex and fame is the answer to their life, and they are doing the best they can by clubbing. Now that I know the real reason ehy people club, i now know how to not piss people off, make sure i have a good time, but also make sure others do too. And i can simply go there to just enjoy this insight, enjoy the parallels between the hillsong church and clubs, and see how similar they really are. Its deeply interesting to just observe human nature at play. So thats it: clubs are literally orange stage churches.

I'm extremely unhappy. probably -1000 if using a scale from 0 to 10. Depressed almost all the time throughout the day, always suffering constantly. Definitely 1000x more unhappy than the people on here, and 100x more unhappy than ordinary people. And yet this is a blessing in disguise, because it gives me 1000x more opportunity to deeply study what depression, sadness, fear, misery actually is metaphysically, what it feels like, where it comes from, where it resides, how it works, and most importantly how it fits in with the bigger picture of the world, what its function is. I am deeply deeply deeply miserable, and yet I have no desire to get rid of it. Let it come, I'll accept it as one of my brothers or sisters. Yes from the surface depression and sadness looks evil, dark, disgusting, something to avoid, but in the end that's all a fake illusion, there's nothing wrong with depression its just a feeling like any other. Just like how black people aren't actually scary.

Has anyone made an entire system for psychedelics? When i say system i mean entire school for getting to enlightenment just like yoga meditation kriya etc. How do you integrate what you've learnt in a paychedelic trip? How do you remember very high doses? How do you enter a trip so that you observe the state as accurately as possible? A lot of these answers can be duck taped together using epistemology, meditation, following intuition, but is there any system out there?

hahahahha you completely misunderstand evolution. Undergrad mistake. Saying neural networks or evolutionary algorithms mimic biological evolution is like saying the pyramids in los vegas mimic the real pyramids in Egypt. The devil is in the details, look carefully at what evolution actually is. Its a creative, intelligent process

It might be chaos, but its not random. Its extremely intelligent, pattern filled, wise chaos.

It might not be happening for a reason, but life is following a direction towards something. Even though that direction is paradoxically already achieved.

Look, the stuff Leo talks about is actually possible.

Right so you can work 80 hours a week in absolute peace and joy? even if the jobs are mentally draining or labour intensive? You cannot be that attached to the body to pull that off, and if you aren't why boast about 6 chicks PMing you? There's no you to boast about??

You're saying survival is not actually survival if you look at it closely enough?