electroBeam

On the one hand, that is very intelligent of you, thankyou for that answer. On the other hand, where did this idea come from that you must act a certain way? Why must you do this and that? Rather than what you authentically feel? or for some other reason? And how do you know that responsibility is shared? What if responsibility is neither shared nor not shared? What if the insight you are pointing to has nothing to do with responsibility, and it seems like it does so because the ego has very very sneakily hijacked the insight. Be very very very careful of seemingly to observe any structure in the universe. Many structures that feel like real insights, awakenings, etc. Are actually unknowingly distortions of those awakenings. The new age movement in general, has an extremely subtle need for positivity, security etc. And it's covered up as a valuable insight or truth. Devilry is not limited to beliefs, it's also insight. That's why traditional Zen teachers totally dismiss insights as bullshit. yep counter to the entire paradigm of the new age movement.

There seems to be this idea going around here that the student is fully responsible for his or her actions and therefore the teacher cannot be criticised for the bullshit he or she says. This idea only goes so far. Do you have the same view with an ISIS leader? Or a Zen teacher that molests a student? or a KKK leader? Have some decency for God's sake. If you aren't ready to teach, don't delude people into thinking you know what you're talking about. Teachers aren't responsible free.

maybe, or maybe electroBeam's problems have nothing to do with the ego at all. Maybe electroBeam's ego is completely irrelevant. maybe electroBeam was just commenting on the structure of the new age + actualized.org itself, as seen through his erroneous, incorrect, wrong perspective, just outlining what he authentically saw. maybe he saw that the very act of calling an experience/the truth something, immediately made the psyche misinterpret that experience, and believe that belief, instead of remembering the experience, while unknowingly believing its remembering the experience. Maybe he saw that there is no correlation between a word and an experience, and any belief in one causes devilry/illusion. Maybe he saw that calling the truth a cow, is just as close to the truth as calling it one. Maybe he saw calling the truth as blue, is as close to the truth as calling it Love. And believing that this is not the case is the very thing that perpetuates a completely made up, imaginary, delusional, spiritual paradigm, while deluding yourself into thinking anyone who disagrees just hasn't done the work. Maybe he saw that its impossible to make a pointer, because you cannot point to the truth. Maybe he saw what people point to doesn't exist. Maybe he saw that the new age movement is essentially applying western science principles. Having an awakening experience, then labelling it, and effectively making a belief about it and getting sucked into it without knowing. Just like how western scientists misinterpret their experiments and make a belief about it. Maybe he just sees this, from his very limited perspective, happening on the forum, in new age videos, in any talk about spirituality, and so he just wants to abandon the whole thing for a while. Maybe electroBeam sees insights, awakening experiences, enlightenment, trying to get to the truth, truth itself, literally everything being talked about on here AND everything being pointed to, as being completely bullshit. In electroBeam's current perspective, there is no ego, LP course, no such thing as results, no such thing as a distraction, Leo's teachings, from the point of truth, its just all made up, all of it. Nothing to do with the truth electroBeam is looking for, or cares about. electroBeam doesn't care about spirituality anymore, electroBeam just cares about the NOW, the THIS, and all of this site, and every other new age site, is not talking about THIS, they are talking about their paradigm, while believing they are talking about THIS, when that's not true at all. That's all electroBeam is saying, if this doesn't clear up the misinterpretations of his original post, nothing will. And it doesn't matter, it doesn't change anything.

Sure, if you want to believe that I made this critique because I just mentally masturbated all day, or because I hate Leo, that's fine, you can believe whatever you want. As I said in the original post, this isn't me attacking Leo, "this is an authentic account of me purging the actualized.org belief system built up over time, along with all of the errors and shortcomings of this particular perspective". Don't get too caught up in such an account, it's just a perspective. Of course Leo has great teachings(as said at the bottom of my post). Of course, most people on here don't resonate with the critique and so they jump to the conclusion that mental masturbation is at play. If only they know meditation doesn't rid you of the paradigm. If you're chasing enlightenment, or are trying to be more spiritual, because you believe something special about it, you're in the paradigm, you just don't know it. Even if you do the work, your mind will twist the interpretations of the insights, awakenings to fit it. And thats why I said at the bottom that I'm now looking to live in a place without spiritual words and concepts for a while. And I do listen to other teachers of course, what I forgot to mention was this really wasn't a critique of actualized.org alone, it was a critique of the new age movement as a whole, specialising in Leo's videos. I'm critiquing the west's complete bastardisation of spirituality to make it it's own little island in the sea of life, because the West are a bunch of over enthusiastic, over excited, content driven, dramatic bunch of people. Even if they have insights, people don't get/are not aware of how much their belief system shapes those insights and awakenings - clearly. But again, I'm just saying what I see, and what makes me feel a lot better and relieved, if you disagree with me you have every right to.

that guy looks like he's gonna shoot lasers out of his eyes.

Well said, 200% agree. The more spirituality you absorb, the more it bites you in the ass and the more you need to let it go.

Is Gaia a valuable resource? Are the teachers high quality, how deep do they go into spirituality? Are they for deep meditators or just noobs? Are they for westerners or easterners?

wow you're right.

haha nice advice guys. But the blue being wasn't an entity, it was blue 'being', being God. It was a way to describe nonduality.

I'm struggling with a low self esteem/FOMO problem with higher education (university and above). My Love Hate Relationship with education Ever since I was a kid I've had a complex relationship with education. I remember back when I was 6 or so I loved it. As we all are, very curious, excited and amazed by the world. I remember reading heaps of science books, just simply fascinated and in awe with its complex and beautiful creation (and even though I know much more and am much more advanced in science now than then, paradoxically I'm trying to go back to that place LOL). But then primary/elementary school got deeper into theory. School became less about the 'airy fairy' stuff, and more about memorisation, practice and repetition. The awe and inspiration got replaced with mechanism; in the name of discipline. This is where my relationship with education started to take a turn and get a bit messy. Added with the fact that I was severely bullied, I no longer saw education as a place of wonder, and rather saw it as a machine. I began to get bad marks in junior school, which lead to heaps of negative complications: loss of good relationship with parents, teachers. I was in the 'opportunity class' which means it was full of the kids with the highest marks in our school. Very elitist there, so the bad marks lead to me being severely bullied, ostracised, etc. (many other factors caused it but this was one). I got bad marks because I believe I have some mental disabilities, such as short term memory loss, lack of concentration ability, difficulty understanding concepts, etc. My mind also thinks very differently to the average person. My mind works holistically. Its needs to know the whole picture for it to understand and retain important information. It needs to know the trunk, then work out the leaves using the trunk as a scaffold and reference point, rather than just working out all the different leaves one at a time all randomly (like what school does). I found that education ripped out a page from the maths text book, which was discovered in 4BC or whatever. Completely ignored the history that lead to the discovery, completely ignored why it was discovered, its purpose, how it connects with all the other knowledge, what mindset the inventor had, how societal and culture affected that mathematical theory, etc. Instead they explain the concept logically, then give you a series of varied text book exercises to do to learn it. My mind cannot learn well with this approach, it simply rejects the knowledge. In my opinion, once you've seen junior school mathematics, history, English class, science, etc. You've seen the entirety of all those subjects. Maths doesn't change after junior school, the thing that changes is the content, but the content is just different permutations and combinations of the essence of mathematics - the same process/rules/idea. I read a good book once that taught 'wisdom' of mathematics rather than content. Techniques like if a problem is too hard, invent an easier problem, solve that, then use that as a stepping stone to a harder problem. Just try out random numbers and see if it works, it taught what the difference between strategy and technique is, etc. I wish school taught this, but instead I felt like I stopped learning maths in junior school and spun my wheels ever since until I left education. With the internet these days, why is there so much emphasis on memorisation and wrote learning? This lead to me having severe motivational issues with schooling, causing bad grades. School also punishes you and rewards you, not for critical thinking, but for how well you can emulate the process being taught to you, or in the case of English literature or history, how well you can reaffirm the English teacher's beliefs and point of view about a particular scene of a play or book. I see value in this emulation process: this is how skills are developed, but I question do we really need to do 16 years (school plus uni) of it to get the performance we need? In fact I would argue learning just 3 months of it is sufficient - the fundamental principles - the process, not content. Beyond school I've learnt to apply post grad formulas without having to do hundreds of hours of it, in actuality just an afternoon session was sufficient. Also school hates to mix subjects together, let alone concepts in the same subject together!! Why can't we have projects where we design paper or straw bridges using the maths and design we learnt in school? Why can't we 'feel' our formulas by using it in real life a straw bridge, why can't we play around and see what works and doesn't, and see how it mixes with other formulas, systems, etc? Schools teach in this way for a mix of reasons: 1) they have dogmas 2) its more efficient, cheap and objective to teach this way 3) They teach to help society maintain itself rather than grow. My low self esteem and FOMO with school In university I failed a year of subjects, then dropped out to make a startup. The startup is going quite successful, more successful than most, but its not guaranteed to set my survival needs for life yet. And its really grilling to live in this environment, also its not my life purpose, through applying consciousness to what I'm doing in this startup, I've seen too much, I've seen how the very societal system of a startup is rigged from the beginning to keep the filthy rich in power and control. Because I don't have a degree, failed subjects, and have a bad relationship with education, I've got a bit of trauma and its so vast and messy and complex I don't know how to resolve it. It affects my confidence, mental capacity and happiness on a daily basis. I feel like a bit of an impostor at times with this startup. How can the CTO of a highly advanced AI medical startup not have a PHD(like all the other AI medical startups???) let alone a college degree??? Maybe I'm missing some very fundamental skills in uni, and because I haven't undergone the whole thing, I'm not performing the best at this startup? Damn this startup is not where I belong, I belong helping the world and advancing science, and here I am just helping the rich get richer and stay in control. Maybe if I kept in uni I would be an Einstein and be helping the world? Maybe the real reason why I couldn't handle uni is because I'm dumb. And if I'm dumb how the hell am I going to pull of this startup and achieve my ultimate life purpose? Because I haven't been to uni, I've lost the opportunity to be mentored and get connected with the brightest scientists in the world, meaning I can never learn deep skills needed to be successful in my LP! I've lost the connections to be able to attend highly advanced scientific conferences about nature and the environment, meaning I'm out of the loop of the place I want to be etc. etc. etc. Plus of course the social pressure for uni: parents telling you, you should do it otherwise you're doomed, employers telling you its important and you should do it, etc. Plus the lack of credibility you get when you speak to investors, customers, etc and you don't have a degree. Resolution? I actually went back to uni after being out of it for 6 months to 1 year to try it again (happened beginning this year), but again I didn't like, so I left again. I have been kicked out of uni since and to go back I would have to redo my entire degree, which is quite hard while doing a startup. And I get so so so so so much more enjoyment out of listening and practicing meditation, yoga, chakras, etc. Going meta, etc. This feels much much much more useful, meaningful and impactful than hundreds of thousands of years of uni. And this just adds to my confusion. When I do uni I feel like I am wasting my time, because I can be using that time to study and practice the stuff that's on this site. How do I overcome these low self esteem issues? Should I go back to uni?

Yes but as you said before, the amount of facets are finite. So if its finite its possible to become conscious of them all and so I was just asking what do you do when all facets have been explored.

Is there anything left to be conscious of after Self-Love, and if there isn't what's left to do? Create? And how long (lifetimes/years) would it take an average American to reach Self-Love?

I don't know but, I think psychedelics that make you enter God mode extremely rapidly (in minutes or seconds) might be undesirable. It freaks the ego out, which distracts you + makes you have a bad trip, if it goes very very very fast you can vomit just from the shear speed of it, and it can dislocate your chakra system (on first HBWS trip I noticed that my chakra system was dislocated/decentralised for a while). Then again if it goes very fast your ego doesn't have time to stop it aswell. Its like being shot to death rather than sliced with a sword.

Just create a backup for the high consciousness resources section The rest is mostly bullshit.

Yeah that's terrible, if only they were open minded to very easy to do, fun, accessible extractions. It just goes to show while these ancient methods have a lot of wisdom to them - much more than western medicine and science, there is so much opportunity to use science to optimise these ancient methods. Maybe that's what thesis projects should be based on? Designing ayahuasca that doesn't make you vomit?? Much more impact that figuring out how to make a faster rocket engine, building a better financial algorithm, etc. I sort of know what you mean by the unpleasantness. I ate 8 Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds and nothing happened except vomiting, nausea, etc. I sort of took the opportunity to feel and observe the sensations, ask 'why do I feel bad here' and maybe this is what shamans mean by its necessary, because it is valuable to do this - but I was only doing this because I couldn't get rid of the side effects not because it was intentional. When I extracted the HBWR using a polar non polar extract very little to no nausea occurred. It was much better, just fear of death and the present moment for 6 hours hahahah which ironically is much more valuable and insightful.

I think it was this one. Maths is taught beautifully here. You can see how chapters 1 to 4 teachers you about structure instead of content. It goes meta on the content. I wish school and uni was like this. Once you know and master the strategies in chapter 1 to 4, you don't need to be taught content, you can learn it on your own.

That would be a good thesis project

hmmm not sure about that haha. Many work their assess off to find a teacher. Lots of searching different communities, surveying teachers, trying them out, coming up with persuasive arrangements for teaching. It feels good to say that a teacher will effortlessly appear when 'youre ready' but in actuality many (except for the lucky) have to go through intense emotional labour to find the right teacher or to get psychedelics. I've gone through massive emotional labour(learning very technical knowledge) and significant legal risk to get psychedelics.

ok, I've experienced something different on mescaline. I didn't know others had nausea and vomiting from pure mescaline. I agree with my extremely limited psychedelic experiences. But shamans also do sweat lodges(suggesting that physiological purging is important to them), and they have a whole theory and practice on vomiting and purging. How can such developments be explained away as them making up excuses for inferior products.

That's because you're not extracting it. If you actually follow an extraction TEK the nausea goes away. This applies for NN-DMT, Mescaline and LSA. Extractions are fun to do, and make the psychedelic more pure. Unless you've got a problem/don't like science, and have a thing for doing it naturally, there's no problem with extracting it. P.S. I have been told by shamans that do ayahuasca that vomiting and nausea are actually necessary for 'purging'. They help you get rid of bad emotions, spirits, etc. To be honest I have no idea of the validity of that, but you might not want to assume that 'nausea' and 'vomiting' are bad things, they may be good, great, necessary, effective things.

I was just contemplating about why science is not True, and is False, and paradoxically how science is able to be used to create so much technology even though its false. Like how science is able to predict things and make aircraft fly, etc. I think the answer is, because science put laws/limitations on reality. It tells you how certain phenomena should and not not behave. And this very act of limitation has a profound implication for how our universe is structured. See limitation allows things to be created. Without limitation things cannot be created. When you set laws, like what's a number that's larger than 5 and smaller than 500, you allow all the numbers between 5 and 500 to exist, which is a whole range of creations. When you remove that limitation, how can anything be created? Any forms? Of course in this example its obvious, but when you contemplate about this, with every single limitation in the universe (our entire cosm) you start to see the function/purpose of duality. Scientists are not just going around misinterpreting reality by calling it atoms and molecules and energy particles because they are dumb. They are literally helping God enable creation. Without science, aircraft couldn't exists, and its BECAUSE science is WRONG/FALSE that aircraft exist. See how fucken amazing that is? Science is a creation tool. Its a worldly paint brush. That means, scientific revolutions and concepts have direct implications for what world we will live in. What will be created. This is the true importance of science. And if we want a world where everyone wakes up, guess what that means? Limit/divide the universe in such a way that it transforms living beings into people that wake up. In other words, use science and revolutionise it so that people wake up -> create psychedelics using science, technology that puts people in trances or hypnosis, etc. It really is possible, it just depends on how you slice and dice the universe. And its ok that science is false, its meant to be false, so that we can create, and by creating we create duality, and by creating duality we create the opportunity to experience God.

@Lento All of the technology you see, cars, aircraft, all exist in the form they are because of the way science has been CHOSEN to be divided up. Science cause a massive domino effect, creating all sorts of technological creations. If you invent a new scientific theory/revolution about the life sciences, you will see that science ripple through all of the plants, animals, etc, all of the plants and animals will literally transform into something completely different to what they were before the theory. Contemplate this: did evolution happen before Darwin? What if evolution became 'real'/appeared in existence at the same time Darwin created it? That means in the 1500s evolution was literally not real. It only became real after Darwin. then it rippled not just from Darwin's time to future, put also from Darwin's time to the past. Evolution is not a thing that always existed and Darwin found that truth, God/Darwin literally created that truth on the spot after Darwin created it. The universe literally didnt have evolution before darwin created it. This shows you the power of creation. You can literally create the universe you want. You can transform the entire universe into anything. And when it has been completely transformed into something indistinguishable then the past, people won't even notice - they will walk around as if that's how it's always been. EDIT: slight correction. I don't mean evolution became real for everyone as soon as Darwin created it. I mean as soon as someone learns about Darwin's theory of evolution, God literally creates evolution on the spot in your consciousness. That's why creationists have such a hard time with evolution, in their consciousness, evolution literally doesn't exist. God literally didnt create evolution in their consciousness. So actually when creationists say evolution doesn't exist - they are exactly right, it literally doesn't exist. As soon as they learn about evolution, and their perspectives change, then God literally creates evolution on the spot. This is the essence of changing paradigms. People in different paradigms are literally living on different planets. There isn't 1 planet and we are all sharing it. There is a multiverse of planets some with evolution and some without, and we are all living on different ones but communicating to each other as if we are on the same one. So it's possible to create whatever planet you want. And take people along with you on that planet. You can make whatever planet you want.

yes its reductionist rather than holistic, making it incapable of connecting 'emergent properties'. Holism is not superior to the reduction of science. Our mind is capable of intuitively interpreting multiple phenomena to produce a cohesive solution to a problem, or a cohesive 'knowing' to some set of complex phenomena. For example knowing if you should meditate for 1 hour or 30 minutes takes a large amount of phenomena to process to know the answer. Its about combining it all to come up with a cohesive knowing of what to do. But our ability to holistically interpret this phenomena is limited by how reliable this phenomena is, and how well its structured. Where reduction becomes valuable is increasing the reliability and structure of this phenomena so that holistically interpreting the results becomes easier or more reliable. A lot of ancient techniques, methods and knowledge in the past was a lower quality than it could be because the information they had was not in its best shape. Ancient ayahuasca brews cause vomiting while newly developed, chemically extracted ones(using western science) reduce that vomiting. The ones that created ayahuasca brews did not have the ability to design the brew to decrease vomiting because the information they had was not good enough. Science for all of its flaws can produce very high quality information for holistic interpretation. Science is the mastery of using different quantity to produce different qualities, and if the ancient ayahuasca brew inventors had western science, they could of designed a much more effective brew. This is one example(albeit primitive) of how western science can be combined with ancient spirituality to produce techniques for the divine. I can't wait to see how the power of using quantity to produce quality can be used to develop more effective meditation and yogic techniques.

And this is a green shadow when you say my yyyy side doesn't like xxxxx, it doesn't like it because yyyy has some dogmas that clash with xxxxx. You're problem isn't that you're too advanced and now reintegrating blue is too hard for you, you're problem is that you're not advanced enough. Your in some sort of no mans land between green and yellow, and to healthy integrate those blue values, requires you to contemplate them in yellow fashion and integrate them.

Nope, you've become too advanced now, a sort of Einstein, you can never develop those primitive monkey values ever again.