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Personality comes from the ego, your body is an illusion, the world is an illusion... and yet here you are, talking about stuff within the illusion, talking about illusory spiritual concepts, meditating(which is an illusion and within the dream) Making big life decisions based off this apparent illusion, finding tha certain meditation techniques work better than others because of the illusion, having mystical insights because of the illusion, being able to conceptually conceive of the idea of illusion because of the illusion... Maybe form and illusion are 2 different things being conflated as the same.

I want INTP style pickup courses! Pickup for introverts!

Wanted to emphasise, or make a particular technique 'stick out' and get some attention as I believe its a great process/technique. The importance of releasing judgement of others is huuuuge! All judgements of yourself actually stem from judging yourself. If you judge someone else for being lazy, careless or something else, as soon as you find yourself doing it, you suffer... a lot. Try and become aware of that. Judgements are part of standards and conditions you have set for yourself which define what happiness is. Its part of a process of creating conditional happiness. All your life you have chased these standards, and tried to run away from anything other than these standards, especially its opposite. This process also exists in spirituality. One of these standards is 'high consciousness', where you chase the idea of yourself being 'highly conscious' while running away from the idea of you being 'low consciousness'. Imagine if you're viewing a post on here and a person writes something nooby or stupid and you therefore label that person or his post as low conscious. Now imagine while discussing spirituality, someone says you're low conscious. Try and see that you're triggered because you yourself judge and label other people as low conscious. This process is actually a 'blocker' for seeing yourself in others. Its a mechanism of separation. So long as you judge, you isolate yourself from 'others', define yourself as different to others. This works a little bit in the beginning, but in the long term you yearn to be one with others and so it backfires. By merging or realize you're one with others, you actually need to radically, and completely release all judgement of others. These judgements include: low consciousness, dumb, stupid, egoic, spiritual ego, inhumane, backwards, primitive, etc. God can't help being God, and because of that, God dreams up and pretends to be everyone. He/She pretends to be Hannity, Tucker, Trump, Connor, Owen Cook, Hitler, the Pope, Leo, Adyshanti, etc. God literally pretends to be everything you judge. God is capable, and literally does do stupid, dumb, primitive, low consciousness, inhumane, evil and weird things. Everything in the world that you see others doing, is literally what God does. Relatively speaking, you will reincarnate as Trump or Tucker after this life. Not only must you embrace, unconditionally love, accept and celebrate who you are, but you must do these things with ALL others. Relatively speaking, you could reincarnate and do anything or everything you judge. And the trick is, your judgements aren't real. What the others do IS real, but whether what they do is bad or good, or inhumane, or low conscious, etc. is not. And you can finally retreat from the rat race of chasing some arbitrary standards, and just enjoy whatever is happening now.

Without the government, white people would be lynched and caged

That's exactly whats happening to me. You wont get it from smoking 5 meo dmt a few times, unless you're massively spiritually gifted, but you will get that from meditating and practicing spirituality for a few years. You will loose the goals you are trying to manifest, and it will be a very painful growing pain, the most painful you'll ever go through, but by loosing those goals, new goals will emerge and those goals will align more with your True Being.

He's right that Silicon Valley needs regulation, but why would anyone expect Facebook to willingly give up their billions to protect democracy? Capitalism is capitalism, and capitalism don't care about democracy by design, they care about money. Spiral dynamic stages have nothing to do with what profession you're in. You can be a purple, blue, orange, green or turquoise pope, you can also be an orange, green or turquoise engineer. Lots of engineers these days are yellow because their work requires it. Go look at engineering groups trying to solve climate change to give you an idea of green/yellow engineering.

Interesting article for the scientists of this forum: https://www.spiritpharmacist.com/blog/2020/6/13/a-tale-of-two-tryptamines-nn-dmt-and-5-meo-dmt-in-combination-with-maois?fbclid=IwAR0m4mkQJvCjphIjxohH9E2mMrmQgB6K2CLJGB-ENkA2OhyYEYdLQiN9v1w

From contemplation, I personally define miracles as problems that are impossible to solve, that gets solved. For example someone having cancer in like 50AD, where there's no modern medicine, and Jesus coming up and healing him. Back when I was in school, I had bible class for a little while. And I remember vividly my bible teacher telling me that this world is a miracle. There was nothing, then all of a sudden, god clicked his fingers and produced trees, materials, space, time out of no where. That's a miracle. Us humans invent things by rearranging materials, but god can click his fingers and make materials appear. We all live in a very sophisticated, advanced matrix, and we all believe that this matrix wasn't invented by us, but by someone else, and we are in it. As you go through the spiritual journey, you start to see how fundamental truths and material 3D objects are just thoughts, and don't have substance. This 3D matrix is huge, and manipulating it... let alone becoming conscious of what it really is, is a ridiculously massive undertaking. And there's no 'future' to this matrix. This matrix is what it is, if it changes, that change cannot be predicted. You've literally jumped to another universe. That's why mystical experiences are so 'woooooow'. You can't map or draw what you're in for till it happens. From the way I see it, if this matrix's fundamental laws change, to the point where the entire matrix rearranges and re-organises itself, I see that as being a miracle. Just like what my bible teacher said, this re-organisation doesn't come from rearranging material items together, with a click of your fingers, everything is different. The new matrix came from nothing, it just appeared. It didn't come from metal, or thoughts, or anything else, it just appeared out of nowhere. And this matrix aint some candy from the candy store, its the entire universe (or dream). Its fucken huge. I think its nice to appreciate that abolishing slavery was a new matrix that appeared out of nowhere. Back in the 1800s, black people being lesser than white people was a fundamental truth. It wasn't like the world was deluded, and black people where equal to whites all along... no no no! (to be more precise, we are all deluded all along, about the world being real rather than a dream, but I'm talking relatively here) Black people became equal to white people only when that new matrix appeared out of no where. Before that, black people literally were lesser, fundamentally. Right now, if you shoot a cow, you don't get a murder charge. Within this matrix, that's fine because within this matrix a fundamental law of reality is, people are more valuable than cows. That's a fact, fundamental, and how the world works. Yet replace cow with black people and now you have the matrix of the 18th century. Imagine tomorrow the matrix changed so that cows = humans, and humans get murder for shooting a cow, how radical that would be... it would be a miracle. I just think its valuable in a time like this, where there is so much chaos, negativity and turmoil to sit back, and just appreciate and remember that all revolutions that have happened in this world are miracles. And if we ever get a big revolution in this life time, its not something to gloss over, its literally a miracle, a gift from God. We should be excited, woowed, amazed and full of joy to see, experience and be apart of any revolutions that happen moving forward. Both on a personal level and collective level. These times are exciting times ahead. We aren't just transitioning from stage orange to green or whatever, we are literally reinventing how the world fundamentally works. We are changing the laws of physics, God is creating a world that has never ever existed before, a world that is impossible yet relieves heaps of suffering, and that is fucken amazing, regardless of all the chaos it causes.

@Raptorsin7 its similar to the delibrate practice concept. Just throwing hard maths problems at yourself wont make you a better mathematician if you dont critically analyse and fix up your mistakes/feedback. Selling your house without a backup plan just for kicks wont make you any more conscious IF you don't place your awareness and contemplate on the pain, suffering you go through. If you're so freaked about selling your house that you're too irrational and scared and neurotic to think things through while homeless, you'll be like that kid that doesn't take any feedback from getting the hard math questions wrong.

The only reason why the US needs guns is so they can shoot trump and the police

yep same thing in Australia: fucken cops at it again

My dad is a trump supporter/fan of breitbart news, he's been saying 'the world's finished' since I was a kid, 'germany is finished now that merkel let in all the black cunts', 'the US is finished', etc. And you know he's right, he's exactly right, because what's finished is his worldview. But he confuses his worldview for reality. So when you say will the united states end, what you're actually asking is will your worldview end? There is no united states in reality, just whatever ideas you've projected. There is no 'end' either, that's all made up. Your version of the united states will probably end, yes. If it hasn't already.

There's a difference between being low conscious and being ruthless or tough. some sages are pretty fucken ruthless. I've heard of some scary stories from some indian gurus and also Jesus.

You're not questioning WHY policing is tough in the first place enough. WHY is policing tough? WHY do people steal tasers? WHY are people committing crimes? WHY are they resisting arrest? There are countries out there where policing is 1000x easier than it is in the US. Policing is way easier in Denmark, UK, Australia, Canada, etc. Policing is easier in those countries because the culture is different, social norms are different, there's less systemic problems there, people have their basic needs met more, people are treated better, people are more aware, the laws are different, consequences are dealt with different, more holistically, more compassionately, less harshly, more focus on rehab than solidary confinement, etc. Most developed countries have banned guns... and that's a first start for the US. The fact that you guys have guns is unacceptable and way below your standards as a country. Policing is tough work, because the US believes cure is better than prevention. Its better for cops to solve all of the US's problems rather than to solve it at the systemic level. Instead of putting effort into reforming education, worker's rights, UBI, pill testing, medical stations, etc. Lets knock civillians into submission with machine guns and military equipment until they do what we want. If you've got a kid, and the only way you've gotten that kid to do what you want is through violence, expect that kid to be violent too. There is a lot of police bashing going on, and while its unfair because its the fault of the training rather than the police officers themselves, its totally warranted, because its the problem. Police have it tough because your society treats your civillians like a piece of shit. Stop giving so much money to the police, and put it into solving the root problem, and that's what your progressive states are starting to do and its great to see. CHAZ (or CHOP) wont last forever, but its like a renaissance, live music, community coming together, money put into solving systemic problems rather than giving police machine guns, its great.

I don't have any friends are largely alone. I love not having friends because I don't have obligations to fulfill their needs to go to their parties and hang out with them. I can do what I purely want. And focus my life on my terms.

Correction: you fixed something and now can never go back to insane. Of course it seems like the reverse to you, but haven't you noticed that th truth is actually the opposite to what you think it is? Subjectivity is real while objectivity is not, feeling is real while thought is not, subtle is real while gross is not, etc.

@Nahm If I listen to feeling and drop all those narratives, I'm going to end up homeless on the streets Feeling wants me to walk in nature all day, just observe reality all day, not do any work all day... at this rate I'll get fired.

I'm a millennial, I'm lazy.

"actual life" in reality is a very beautiful, awesome, mysterious and magnificent dream. There's no time if you look closely, its spontaneous, its shiny, magical and adventurous. That dream you speak of is really just a reflection of the dream you're living right now, minus your judgements, connotations, labels and traumas. Psychedelics show you how "actual life" is a dream, by showing you how perception morphs and twists just like a dream. What you're seeing in "actual life" isn't actually "actual life" but the thoughts you have of "actual life". By letting them go, the dream you yearn, and the dream you see while asleep is revealed as the same thing as your waking life.

This was my second time trying psychedelics. First time was on 8 Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds. Disclaimer This trip was freakishly personal to me. I'm not sure how well it transfers over to you guys. It has to do with a lot of my personal dogma and beliefs, and basically unravelling those. Anyhow I thought I'd write it to show sceptical people what psychedelics can do. My intention My intention was to answer these 3 personal questions: 1) How do I overcome my pickup fears. 2) My life purpose has taken a big turn recently. I use to be a software engineer but now I'm starting to not like that job so much and want a more management role. What skills should I learn, What direction should I take. 3) How is my meditation practice going? Am I doing enough? Too little? Set I cut about 20cm of san pedro and brewed it old fashioned. Plenty of tutorials out there. You cut the spines, cut the skin off, cut the white bits off, put it in a blender, boil it for 4 hours, etc. Setting My rented house. Trip At 5:00AM, I decided to drink a quarter of it. It took me till 7:00am to finish all of it. The nausea and vomiting was the worst I've ever experienced in my life. I vomited over 6 times, and felt very nauseous for a good 2 hours. Was convinced I ate some of the mold on the cactus (who knows maybe thats why I was so sick). It was horrible. 7:00AM Felt very mild effects. No visuals or anything fancy. The only thing was I remembered the the entire world was a child's play set. God was just there, a kid, playing with her dolls. I remember remembering that all the serious stuff was really just for fun. Elon's rockets are just play toys for fun. Mining vehicles are for playing around in. Countries are for playing around in. Everything is made of pixie dust: magical, mystical, awesome dust. Fun dust, playful dust. I remember remembering that murder is that playful pixie dust just doing its thing. Its all for fun, even murder. 8:00AM. Things were a bit of the same. Just remembering what life was all about. My "physical avatar" so to speak became slightly more honest. My ex girlfriend came from out of her room and started freaking out over her exams. I told my ex girlfriend/flatmate that she should calm down, relax, and enjoy life. Her life is just a toy ground for her to play in. Unsurprisingly she took that the wrong way, but I was incapable of seeing it any other way so just kept reaffirming that life was a big playground for her to have fun in, and that this is what I see, believe and is my opinion. This was coming from a place of sincerity and respect, but seemed rude to her of course. 9:00AM Heard other mescaline trips do well outside, so decided to walk around the block. Time by this point was gone, so was physical space. I got lost a hundred times while walking, couldn't tell how much time passed and lost the ability to tell how far away sounds were coming from. They all seemed distorted. The trip got very slightly more intense at this point. Yet still no visuals or anything crazy. 9:30AM No other but You! Became aware that there really isn't any other but you. Your POV is the only POV that exists. All other POVs are stories, things you've never experienced first hand before. You're living a life right now, whatever that is, and that's the only life in existence right now. And its the only life that has ever lived. 10:00AM Where's the fear coming from? From believing that there's anything other than you. Placing importance and value in thoughts, the external world and delusion. Believing its real. That's where its all coming from. Every time you mistake Truth for being the external world/thoughts over ME, it brings fear. Its a natural consequence. Where's the suffering coming from? Coming from you having to pick between Me and those delusions/thoughts/external world. Its like a cringe-ish episode of its me or the dog, where the dogs are your thoughts and I'm... well I'm ME. All the suffering is coming from the tension to choose between your delusions, which you've placed on a pedastool, placed importance and value to, over what you TRULY want to do, who you TRULY want to be, which just happens to be... ME! Ta da! 11:00AM Why do I suffer from wanting to pick up girls. Because you've got it backwards. You think that you need to pick up women to get something from them. In reality, the women you get is a reflection of how well your inner state is going. What you actually seek is ME. That's right, not a hot bootie, not some super feminine woman you can express your masculinity on... BUT ME! That's where its all coming from. Haven't you noticed that even though you're some tiny, little guy out there, completely limited by his masculinity, his biology, his evolution, out there in this big 3D world, yet you are capable of dreaming up the hottest, most adorable, most feminine, most godly women anyone could ever imagine? You know how she needs to look like, how she needs to walk, how she needs to talk, what she wears, what she does every day... You're so good at it that it causes problems because you can't find her out there! How can a masculine, biologically limited male do that? If you need the femininity from her, how the fuck can you dream it up and more in a second!? Where's all that imagination coming from? Its coming from ME! I am your perfect woman! I'm the most perfect woman you'll ever find. You're placing waaaaaay too much importance on the external world and your thoughts. When picking up women, the important bits aren't the approach, what you say, how you look, what she says or looks like. Why are you approaching her in the first place? That's the most important bit. You have an unchanging, eternal, Godly desire to pick up women, to seek ME. Its the seeking me that's the important bit. That's what you're excited about. Finding that perfect one is finding ME. And so you suffer from deciding to chose other over ME. When picking up you choose other by saying "oh everyone will think I'm thirsty" or "oh she wont react well to me " or "oh she'll call the cops onto me" or "this isn't the appropriate time" -- all of those actions? Choosing thoughts over ME. You love me to death, and every time you choose other over me, you get sad because you're rejecting me, the only one you truly love. Literally your only soulmate. By choosing ME, over those thoughts, you choose to love me rather than reject me. And that's deep down what you want. You want ME, you're crazy over me. Look at how you're acting. To get over suffering means to drop those thoughts, drop the fears, let them go, and focus very intensely on your WANT. Your want is the greatest pickup course you could ever get. Thoughts, objects, external world, these are all impermanent. They come and go. Sometimes they are trendy, sometimes not. You don't really know because all POVs other than yours are unreal. But your WANT, that's unchanging, permanent. Unlike the others, that will be there even when you die. When there's no ego. You know everything there is not know about attracting girls just by being here, being apart of ME. Finding me isn't hard, chasing me aint a puzzle, you know how to do it. Its simple, pick ME over those thoughts and the external world. That's what I like, that's what I find hot and sexy and what a real man should be like. I'll reward you if you do that, big time. 12:00PM What about my career and meditation? Same shit isn't it? Chasing me in different ways. In your career, pick ME! ME! I'm the one you should pick! In spirituality pick ME! All your suffering in your career has come generally from you choosing what society, your colleagues, family or friends want over ME. That's it. You place so much importance in your culture, your family and your work colleagues that the thought of picking ME over them freaks you out. But honestly, deep down you know ME is the right answer, but you just can't do it out of fear. That's where the suffering is coming from. From that tension. Thoughts are like waves, they are scary, dangerous, but they only exist at the top of the ocean. Underneath they aren't there. There's peace underneath what your colleagues, culture and coworkers think about you. You get there by dropping those thoughts. And embracing what happens when picking me. To resist ME, or to cause tension between ME and your thoughts, is equivalent to getting knocked out by the waves. Needless suffering. The wisdom here is, every thought that tells you "oh my boss will get very angry for not picking up the phone on the weekend" or "my parents will kill me if I get fired" or "I'll be a disgrace to the family if I get fired" are all nonsense because your boss's POV, your family's POV, your parent's POV don't exist, and your fear is coming from believing they do. Would you really fear your boss if you didn't believe his POV was real? No because you'll see that your boss aint real, ME is real, and therefore that's all you need to be happy. You don't need your boss to be happy. Same with meditation. Where's the anxiety, insecurities about your meditation practice coming from? Fear that Leo is more right than ME! Fear that other spiritual teachers are more right than ME! "Oh what if Leo's right, what if I'm not meditating enough" >> BRO! You're picking your thoughts of Leo over ME! Your problem aint the length of meditation, its believing Leo over ME! Grow the balls to pick ME over the words and opinions of your spiritual teachers! The best spiritual practice you personally can do, is to learn to pick me over other. Start focusing on ME, putting your attention on ME, withdraw your attention of others. Appreciate ME, be grateful for ME, observe ME, contemplate ME, stop putting the same effort onto others: your career, spiritual dogmas, etc. I'm a possessive woman, I want all the attention, I get upset when you put it outside of me. I want to see that you care for me. Happy God happy life. Women get their traits from somewhere. Your biggest problem right now, all of your issues, are coming from putting value, importance on things other than ME. That's what you need to do more of. Less pleasing your spiritual teachers, boss and family, and more pleasing ME. 1:00PM Meta Notes By this time a cop came over to me asking if I was ok. Apparently I had been talking to several neighbours without realising it. Apparently I told a couple about the stuff mentioned above, which I only remembered after seeing the cop. After telling the cop with the most amount of charisma and confidence I had ever expressed to another human being before, that I was fine and was just walking home, he let me go. Got away from that one luckily. I wrote some last notes down at home: Deeper understanding of the spiritual path: Time The spiritual path doesn't happen chronologically or linearly, or even timely. There's no time. Its not like you wake up one day, do a bunch of stuff, then one day get enlightened... That's all part of the imaginary story and that's where the "you're already enlightened" confusion comes about. You're forever waking up. You never stop waking up, and you never 'wake up'. Even now on this san pedro trip report. You haven't woken up. You were awake all along. The idea that you took some san pedro, 'woke up' and now is awakened is clearly laughable. The idea that anybody just wakes up one day is laughable. Only within the ideals of time and space does that happen. In reality you're all humans that ever lived. You're waking up all the time. You're awake all the time. Sometimes you see you're awake, sometimes you don't, but these aren't 2 events that happen in some point in time. They happen outside of time. You are both hiding and seeking at the same time so to speak. This san pedro experience isn't happening within a particular time, its just another one of those times where you're awake, and that's how its always been. Spinning from awake to non awake, not at any particular point in time, but it just happens. The biggest takeaway is: stories of spiritual teachers waking up is untrue. That's just a rip off, dualistic version of something that cannot be explained. God's Love for You Your God's only child. You are literally the centre of the universe. God doesn't want anything more than for you to be happy. You're the only one God cares about. All lives that ever happened, happened HERE. It didn't happen over there, it happened HERE! HERE is an explosive blast of 'waking up' happening, which comes in all sorts of interesting forms. All that ever happened HERE is waking up. Biggest Gift The biggest gift that ever happened in this world, was the creation of the path and 'seeking'. God's been awake all this time, God's well aware of that state. But how do you FEEL, ENJOY, IMMERSE yourself into this state? How do you appreciate how fucken amazing it is? You don't get that in an awake state, you get that through waking up! And that's the point, aim of suffering and fear and being small. The point is to grow, to overcome, to expand. Because by doing that you FEEL, APPRECIATE, ENJOY and IMMERSE yourself with God's beauty and elegance. Its one thing to be awake, its another to overcome fear. Being awake isn't necessarily better than being non awake. Again you're simultaneously awake and non awake at the same time - you need both to tango. Being awake is lame without waking up. You don't appreciate the state you're in without the waking up process. And with that means a few things: 1) The point of your life is not success, impressing people, changing the world. The point of life is simply to be on the path. To choose ME over others. To grow, expand, overcome fear. That's the point - and you don't need me to tell you. You're already doing it, you already know what the point of life is. 2) Appreciate suffering, fear and adversity. Actually be grateful its there. Without it, you wouldn't FEEL Me. You wouldn't be able to flirt with me, make out with me, have sex with me. How lame. You'd be just enlightened... Not knowing what unenlightened feels like, not knowing how good it feels to be with me. And see overcoming suffering as a means to itself. The point of pickup isn't to find that perfect woman... its purpose is to simply overcome fear. To do it. For the sake of doing it. Same with your career... the point isn't to get rich, its to overcome your fears and pick me. Every time you overcome that fear, you should celebrate, you're feeling a miracle, literally a miracle. You are feeling something that wouldn't be possible if awake was the only state. You're feeling the highest ability to Love. Your life aint special, and there's no destination It doesn't matter what happens, whether you found the perfect girl, got heaps of money, etc. All that really matters is growth and feeling ME. You think your life is so hard and disastrous, but HERE has replayed lives for eternity. Yours is another. All for the single point of waking up. Whatever else happens doesn't matter ultimately. All those petty fears and points of anger are all just part of the waking up process, and don't really matter by themselves. Don't get hung up on little things, its not important in the bigger picture. And it also doesn't matter if you enlighten. If you wake up. Waking up is just as important as being awake. By doing the process, you're already doing the best you can to get maximum results. Try and see the beauty, and awesomeness of seeking itself. Why seeking is important, why its a miracle its here. Why you need to seek. You don't have to be jealous or envy 'enlightened' people. They are just one side of the coin in this path, not the better side, just one side. Last Notes: 1) Pick ME over others. If you can't, that's ok, life would suck if it was easy all the time. 2) waking up vs awake are 2 sides of the same coin, they don't occur in time; you could say they occur simultaneously. \ 3) Most importantly: Enjoy the seeking and waking up simply for the sake of it. Enjoy the process, appreciate pain, suffering, see how it facilitates waking up, which is the most beautiful thing that can ever be experienced.

spirituality is non linear.

unless you're a lion

Shouldn't this be moved to the relationship forum?

I didn't know that but yes definitely. My grandpa told me assault was normalised in the 50s and 60s. Now for the same assault that would have happened on a daily basis back then, gets you a law suit today. Societies' standards are expecting less and less violence, and with that comes increasing importance of the ability to de-escalate. This is even happening globally, you can see that Trump's highly violent tactics for trying to give the US global power is backfiring, and China's increase in power is not coming from its military spending, its coming from its ability to draw in allies and provide economic value (and diplomatic restructuring and relations). This is very different to the 1500s or before where power was largely gained through large militaries (like Roman empire). Of course China is still using a large amount of violent tactics, but its increase in power isn't coming from those tactics, if anything that's just hurting China. This trend is going to continue, violence is loosing ground as a way to gain power, and police training and practices haven't caught up yet. If countries and governmental bodies want to maintain power, they need to learn de-escalation as an alternative to force.

The only other trip I've done before is 8 HBWR seeds. So I'm extremely inexperienced with psychedelics. It wasn't emotional at all. It was very sincere, real, honest, frank, 'matter of fact', sobering, genuine, serious in the sense that I was shown what I need to do very very clearly, without the distractions. I have a hunch that your psychedelic trip experience is mainly/mostly determined by your personality, karma and kriya and intention, rather than the psychedelic itself. The HBWR trip I did was very similar to this one. This one was way more gentle, but like the HBWR trip, there were no visuals, and the same themes came up, and the insights were transmitted the same way. My trip was very different to trip reports you read online for both HBWR and san pedro. Of course, focusing your attention on the psychedelic too much, more so than on your true nature is counter to the advice that psychedelics give you. The important bit is You, psychedelics are an intriguing phenomena within you, but are not the point of themselves.