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“Trust in God, but tie your camel. Because Allah has no other hands than yours”

Maybe because what's a dickhead is relative. A dickhead for you is a cool guy for me, and a cool guy for me is a dickhead for you. There are clearly differences between people's interests, values and inclinations. Introversion vs extroversion, interested in science or art, leading people or being lead, are real differences you can actually spot. What's a cool guy for you is an Elon Musk smoking bong out of his ass, what's a cool guy for someone else is a shakespear or poet or famous athlete like ian thorpe. Just because you're a cool guy at the end of it doesn't mean its bullshit. Maybe everybody is a cool guy in truth? Maybe athletes are cool, poets are cool, scientists are cool, politicians are cool, everyone is cool, and the reason you don't think they're cool is because you have judgments and hatred towards those groups that you don't resonate with. The fact that you're a cool guy at the end of it means the MBTI is accurate, not the opposite. We resonate with who we truly are, because we love ourselves beyond belief. That's why we strive for truth, honesty, love and being 'right' or 'just', because we love our true selves. The 'cool guy' ness at the end of it is just a 'hint' from God that you're discovering something deep and valuable about yourself and that you're on the right track. The problem with the MBTI, along with every concept, is getting dogmatic about it and taking it as the gospel. The MBTI is wrong in a lot of areas, the truth is covered in nuggets of shit, yet the truth in the MBTI is valuable and useful to use.

Replace the people in wall street with people of mainly green values. What decisions would they make? What deals would they propose? What would their goals be?

let me rephrase that: “lol that’s literally me intp (virgin) and my superior intj cofounder (pretends not to be a virgin who fucks girls every night but is actually a virgin) at our company”

Yep that's right What's practical and not practical is relative to your beliefs and who you are. I find MBTI and enneagram far more effective at describing a person's behaviour than SD. You wont because its a model, you also wont see the distinctions SD, 10 ox herdings, concepts leo introduces make either if you look closely enough.

Criticising and deconstructing STEM is important, but do it fairly and justly. Saying that mathematicians are making research that reinforces anti-black racism, or technologists are creating technology that are "routinely weaponized against black people" is an extreme exaggeration at best, and a vicious lie at worst. You're not going to get STEM professionals on board and sympathetic of your position by telling them that the job they love, the job they've spent years and thousands of dollars on to take, a job they believe is impacting the world, is 'weaponized' against black people without them even realising it. They wont buy it, and all it will do is make them hostile and angry against your movement; and rightly so, because as far as I'm concerned, rarely do I see technology researchers in university contributing to the discrimination of black people through their work, let alone intentionally. Neither do I see mathematical theorems that when released through the press, contribute to anti-black racism. Mathematical research should not even be mentioned in this movement if you care about being fair and just. Mathematical departments as a constitution... another story, but that's not what's #shutdownstem are talking about. Liberal arts students can criticise or deconstruct science on a metaphysical level, but they need to understand that telling scientists who have dedicated their life, 60+ hours a week and a load of criticism, pandering to authority and years of low pay, that their scientific foundations are shoddy, is not a nice way of deconstructing science. Its careless, reckless and disrespectful of the people they are talking to. Especially when humanities researchers put their own agenda into it, such as feminism or anti-black racism. If you want to go deconstruct science, go for it, but don't push your deconstructions onto other researchers. Allow the right researchers to come to you. And don't politicise it, or skew it with your own agenda. Be fair to everyone. @Leo Gura I don't have an attachment to STEM, or care whether it exists or not, but what I see is people in STEM being unfairly criticised for stuff they aren't doing, and being conflated with the politics of anti-black racism. The black lives matter movement have consistently, and repeatedly conflated and included groups and organisations within their criticism who don't deserve it, and you see it just leads to collateral damage, like the responses in the videos above. I'm all for changing the world and making it more just, and that's actually why I'm pissed with their conflation, because I see that they are shooting themselves in the foot and just regressing their vision.

I agree partially with the sentiment of #shutdownacademia, because promotions and job prospects do have racist elements in them, I was more focused on #shutdownstem, which as far as what the website suggests, is the idea that basic/pure research and applied research in science, technology, engineering and mathematics kills black people. It potentially does on the frisks of applied research, for example, fingerprint systems that incorrectly mismatch white robbers for black robbers, or facial recognition systems that mis identify whites for blacks, but the majority of STEM research is not perpetuating harm against blacks. I'm pretty sure that's what the movement is saying because I read a passage about facial recognition incorrectly identifying black people.

There could be systemic racism in the study of economics, liberal arts, business, sales, sociology or psychology, etc. But saying there's systemic racism in quantum mechanics or atomic theory or particles or the periodic table is nonsense. Its relative, sure, but its not racist. Or mathematics, saying Pythagoras's theorem is racist against blacks is nonsense.

Nah ya wrong about that. Its as partial as the 10 ox herding, ideas on enlightenment, and the concepts Leo introduces... yet you're still here.

that's got nothing to do with the inital argument that science = racism

lol that's literally me(intp) and my cofounder(intj) at our company.

What's that trap? Ive never seen Gods face before

illusion doesn't mean something doesn't exist, it means its different to what you think it is. A mirage looks like water, but its actually just heat reflecting off the ground. The water doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean the heat reflecting off the ground doesn't exist. Personality is the heat reflecting off the ground, and ego is the water.

yep agree, but personality is not ego, so isn't the body (yet the word body is a very loaded term with lots of illusion and falsehood attached to it)

Personality comes from the ego, your body is an illusion, the world is an illusion... and yet here you are, talking about stuff within the illusion, talking about illusory spiritual concepts, meditating(which is an illusion and within the dream) Making big life decisions based off this apparent illusion, finding tha certain meditation techniques work better than others because of the illusion, having mystical insights because of the illusion, being able to conceptually conceive of the idea of illusion because of the illusion... Maybe form and illusion are 2 different things being conflated as the same.

I want INTP style pickup courses! Pickup for introverts!

Wanted to emphasise, or make a particular technique 'stick out' and get some attention as I believe its a great process/technique. The importance of releasing judgement of others is huuuuge! All judgements of yourself actually stem from judging yourself. If you judge someone else for being lazy, careless or something else, as soon as you find yourself doing it, you suffer... a lot. Try and become aware of that. Judgements are part of standards and conditions you have set for yourself which define what happiness is. Its part of a process of creating conditional happiness. All your life you have chased these standards, and tried to run away from anything other than these standards, especially its opposite. This process also exists in spirituality. One of these standards is 'high consciousness', where you chase the idea of yourself being 'highly conscious' while running away from the idea of you being 'low consciousness'. Imagine if you're viewing a post on here and a person writes something nooby or stupid and you therefore label that person or his post as low conscious. Now imagine while discussing spirituality, someone says you're low conscious. Try and see that you're triggered because you yourself judge and label other people as low conscious. This process is actually a 'blocker' for seeing yourself in others. Its a mechanism of separation. So long as you judge, you isolate yourself from 'others', define yourself as different to others. This works a little bit in the beginning, but in the long term you yearn to be one with others and so it backfires. By merging or realize you're one with others, you actually need to radically, and completely release all judgement of others. These judgements include: low consciousness, dumb, stupid, egoic, spiritual ego, inhumane, backwards, primitive, etc. God can't help being God, and because of that, God dreams up and pretends to be everyone. He/She pretends to be Hannity, Tucker, Trump, Connor, Owen Cook, Hitler, the Pope, Leo, Adyshanti, etc. God literally pretends to be everything you judge. God is capable, and literally does do stupid, dumb, primitive, low consciousness, inhumane, evil and weird things. Everything in the world that you see others doing, is literally what God does. Relatively speaking, you will reincarnate as Trump or Tucker after this life. Not only must you embrace, unconditionally love, accept and celebrate who you are, but you must do these things with ALL others. Relatively speaking, you could reincarnate and do anything or everything you judge. And the trick is, your judgements aren't real. What the others do IS real, but whether what they do is bad or good, or inhumane, or low conscious, etc. is not. And you can finally retreat from the rat race of chasing some arbitrary standards, and just enjoy whatever is happening now.

Without the government, white people would be lynched and caged

That's exactly whats happening to me. You wont get it from smoking 5 meo dmt a few times, unless you're massively spiritually gifted, but you will get that from meditating and practicing spirituality for a few years. You will loose the goals you are trying to manifest, and it will be a very painful growing pain, the most painful you'll ever go through, but by loosing those goals, new goals will emerge and those goals will align more with your True Being.

He's right that Silicon Valley needs regulation, but why would anyone expect Facebook to willingly give up their billions to protect democracy? Capitalism is capitalism, and capitalism don't care about democracy by design, they care about money. Spiral dynamic stages have nothing to do with what profession you're in. You can be a purple, blue, orange, green or turquoise pope, you can also be an orange, green or turquoise engineer. Lots of engineers these days are yellow because their work requires it. Go look at engineering groups trying to solve climate change to give you an idea of green/yellow engineering.

Interesting article for the scientists of this forum: https://www.spiritpharmacist.com/blog/2020/6/13/a-tale-of-two-tryptamines-nn-dmt-and-5-meo-dmt-in-combination-with-maois?fbclid=IwAR0m4mkQJvCjphIjxohH9E2mMrmQgB6K2CLJGB-ENkA2OhyYEYdLQiN9v1w

From contemplation, I personally define miracles as problems that are impossible to solve, that gets solved. For example someone having cancer in like 50AD, where there's no modern medicine, and Jesus coming up and healing him. Back when I was in school, I had bible class for a little while. And I remember vividly my bible teacher telling me that this world is a miracle. There was nothing, then all of a sudden, god clicked his fingers and produced trees, materials, space, time out of no where. That's a miracle. Us humans invent things by rearranging materials, but god can click his fingers and make materials appear. We all live in a very sophisticated, advanced matrix, and we all believe that this matrix wasn't invented by us, but by someone else, and we are in it. As you go through the spiritual journey, you start to see how fundamental truths and material 3D objects are just thoughts, and don't have substance. This 3D matrix is huge, and manipulating it... let alone becoming conscious of what it really is, is a ridiculously massive undertaking. And there's no 'future' to this matrix. This matrix is what it is, if it changes, that change cannot be predicted. You've literally jumped to another universe. That's why mystical experiences are so 'woooooow'. You can't map or draw what you're in for till it happens. From the way I see it, if this matrix's fundamental laws change, to the point where the entire matrix rearranges and re-organises itself, I see that as being a miracle. Just like what my bible teacher said, this re-organisation doesn't come from rearranging material items together, with a click of your fingers, everything is different. The new matrix came from nothing, it just appeared. It didn't come from metal, or thoughts, or anything else, it just appeared out of nowhere. And this matrix aint some candy from the candy store, its the entire universe (or dream). Its fucken huge. I think its nice to appreciate that abolishing slavery was a new matrix that appeared out of nowhere. Back in the 1800s, black people being lesser than white people was a fundamental truth. It wasn't like the world was deluded, and black people where equal to whites all along... no no no! (to be more precise, we are all deluded all along, about the world being real rather than a dream, but I'm talking relatively here) Black people became equal to white people only when that new matrix appeared out of no where. Before that, black people literally were lesser, fundamentally. Right now, if you shoot a cow, you don't get a murder charge. Within this matrix, that's fine because within this matrix a fundamental law of reality is, people are more valuable than cows. That's a fact, fundamental, and how the world works. Yet replace cow with black people and now you have the matrix of the 18th century. Imagine tomorrow the matrix changed so that cows = humans, and humans get murder for shooting a cow, how radical that would be... it would be a miracle. I just think its valuable in a time like this, where there is so much chaos, negativity and turmoil to sit back, and just appreciate and remember that all revolutions that have happened in this world are miracles. And if we ever get a big revolution in this life time, its not something to gloss over, its literally a miracle, a gift from God. We should be excited, woowed, amazed and full of joy to see, experience and be apart of any revolutions that happen moving forward. Both on a personal level and collective level. These times are exciting times ahead. We aren't just transitioning from stage orange to green or whatever, we are literally reinventing how the world fundamentally works. We are changing the laws of physics, God is creating a world that has never ever existed before, a world that is impossible yet relieves heaps of suffering, and that is fucken amazing, regardless of all the chaos it causes.