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What I'm not sure about is the semantic definition of god consciousness, not the experience.

@Leo Gura One of em is a hot witch

The interesting thing about the human race is that they are actually capable of being open minded to, and performing extremely radical things so long as it suits their agenda. Tribesmen can do amazing things with their consciousness. Lots of rationalists have strong meditative ability because they think its gonna make them a more productive, and effective leader.

Well it happens. How can you expect to be happy, when you're not willing to embrace everything that you are? You'll eventually imagine your worst nightmare.

you're imagining their consciousness

I actually find spiral dynamics has nothing to do with romance. Maybe look at completely different angles than spiral dynamics. Look at how much compatibility your masculinity meets her femininity. People get along with dogs, and dogs are beige/purple. Imagine if your girl was a dog.

Thats very interesting, thanks.

@Nak Khid that's an interesting quote from Leo. Where did you get that from? What was the context? I actually thought maybe my solution was TO take psychedelics, rather than a break from them. ? well you're doing it pal. There's lots of room for misunderstanding and interpretation in communication. If you were born into space invaders, and shot aliens your entire life, survived and persisted through your ability to shoot aliens, all of your friends survived based off how well they shot aliens, you were taught in school on the best ways to shoot aliens and the elites were the ones who could shoot aliens the best and the poor were the ones that couldn't shoot aliens that well. Then you somehow got into this human life where there's eating, sleeping, fucking, would you have the same view about your space invader friends and society? Would you still place a lot of importance and value in shooting aliens after seeing that shooting aliens isn't the only universe that exists and the only way to survive? Would you still place a lot of importance of not dying in space invaders? Being scared shitless of an alien landing on the ground? Would you even care? What if you did Leo's life purpose course on the best way to ace shooting all the aliens? Would you still care?

How many ivankiss's does it take to screw a light bulb? 1. 1 to spin the room round and round.

I think there is an extremely subtle and nuanced line between exploring a particular perspective, and believing in it. I think what really nails the exercise on the head is when you explore, feel ans learn something profound from the perspective, without believing in it, falling for it or getting indoctrinated by it. Also there's the trap of false equivelancies, where you believe a perspective is as good or valuable as the other. On the flip side though(of making the false equivelancy trap) there's judging a particular perspective as being absolutely worse or better than another. What are some ways to avoid such traps?

I would be up for writing AI that does moderation for you. Sounds pretty easy to be a mod, you literally just follow the guidelines black and white. Perfect task for a computer.

unless youre andrew:

that's exactly right, its weird.

how's it going for you particularly related to COVID?

Lol, I agree that pickup is largely be your authentic self, but there are particular techniques to learn to fine tune and maximise your results. Pickup started with mystery, then RSD type stuff came out, then naturalists came out to apparently overcome the limitations of RSD. I was curious about what Leo's views were of the naturalists types considering he has high views of RSD.

What about the naturalist style of pickup? Would you say this style is better than RSD?

Orange/Green countries like Switzerland, Spain, Belgium, Portugal are the average. UK Australia are actually solid orange and germany is blue orange. Scandinavia and canada are solid green and Austria has some higher than green elements. Greece and poland and croatia are examples of solid blue.

The most athiest(and therefore secular) developed countries are the UK, Australia and Germany - countries that are arguably less advanced(in SD terms) than the average developed country. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/most-religious-countries-in-the-world/amp/

I wish there was a reputable pickup channel for south east asia. Literally all the advice from western channels dont work over here lol.

Actually the results of the teacher doesn't correlate with YOUR results. To give an example in a different field, just because Einstein was a genius doesn't mean he knows how to teach others to be a genius. Likewise just because you get lots of results from women doesn't mean you can teach it or means you're gonna get the same results as him. A lot of results from pickup comes from how much your perspective resonates with the teacher, rather than what the teacher achieves. Some people need Corey Wayne because his perspective resonates with others more than other perspectives like Playing With Fire's perspective. Anyway, I find that apart from minor technical tweaks, and possibly opening your mind up to new ideas for approaches, listening to pickup gurus is helpful really only for motivation and for battling the negative thoughts that arise when doing pickup. Its not that helpful for getting results. For getting results you're probably better off doing some foundational emotional awareness exercises and lots of practice and real life experimentation.

the most effective pickup technique is meditation and emotional intelligence exercises

Jann is a trained artist. He's not a professional programmer... Its like calling your mum a professional cook.

When I practice Netti Netti and ask myself "what's the thing that never changes" the answer is always "INTPs are annoying"

Singapore is the safest country in the world and is one of the most authoritarian. Yes there are a group of authoritarian countries that are much much safer than the west. I've lived in the west and the east, and in general the % of crime is generally equated to how much money a country has, and how much is spent on reducing crime. Of course there's millions of other factors - but by far the biggest factors are how developed a country is and how much money it spends on reduction of crime. Countries have different way of dealing with crime, Singapore uses surveillance. The US uses quite heavy military law enforcement, Europe uses more humanitarian methods such as psychological and therapeutic help. The most effective method for a particular country depends on its culture. Surveillance is most effective in China and Singapore and other south east asian countries, because in those countries obedience and following the law is highly valued. Chinese and Singaporeans and similar nations like following the law and security. The west on the other hand value freedom, human rights and privacy. So surveillance doesn't work as well. You need to use more flexible methods of de escalating situations in those countries. Otherwise the media will be onto you, the persecuted will fight back, etc. In Singapore or China you can't be flexible, because the citizens will take advantage of that due to their value system. I totally believe democratic nations do have more crime. Singapore has cameras everywhere and extremely harsh penalties. Everyone over there is shit scared of breaking the law. a 3 year old child can be in a dark alley way all alone in Singapore and nothing will happen to that kid. Even in Denmark you would be worried about such a situation. The liberties, freedom for democratic nations come at a cost of less surveillance and opportunity for more crime. Although the catch is authoritarian nations spend more money on crime, because micro managing and surveying their citizens with fine granularity costs lots more money. Lucky Asians are hard workers and work 7 days a week There are also costs to reduction of liberties, it makes it harder to curb political corruption and racism. Its harder to evolve a country that is not democratic. So there's long term costs to the short term gain of reduction of crime.

that's all its boiling down to isnt it? Everything. Waking up process in a nutshell