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In my last psychedelic trip, i was asking what is love, and I got a strong hunch that I(God) invented love as a way to ensure that i would always chase myself. Invent is the important word there. It was as if I went beyond infinite love and saw what creates infinite love. Which made me question whether absolute love is final.

Hmm, thats not what infinite love awakening was like for me. Infinite love awakening was realising everything I thought was true was the exact, exact, exact opposite of true. And all those mystical experiences in the past of nothingness and everythingness were all just part of the story. Like I was pretty fucken convinced about all those mini mystical experiences... and they were all a story. But anyway we differ there it seems.

but there could be deeper levels. How many times were you 1000% sure that your level of consciousness was total and absolute, but then it wasn't. Of course after a particular state, asking you directly is stupid because you're just me, and you're speaking on the level of language, But how do you truly know infinite love is total? That's a question for God of course.

@Leo Gura Yep that's right. The devil never wanted to not surrender to God in the first place, he was just pretending to, because devil = god How else do you make a powerful awakening?

Right which means God isn't selfless enough to allow you to not surrender. Your gonna surrender whether you like it or not because you're not in control. m8 you're replying to the most autistic, masculine spiritual seeker on here. You're not triggering me, you're feeding me what i want

I dont get how god is so selfless that he can't force you to awaken. Your ego has no free will. Its not in control. Your ego can't choose not to awaken. I'm watching my consciousness now, my desire to awaken or to reveal my self deception and devilry wasn't my little ego's choice. Its just happening.

Status that they earnt themselves is what's hot! But guess what? To get that status yourself, you need everything women find attractive anyway(confidence, dominance, assertiveness, driveness) so its a moot point.

But fully awakening is pretty much mahasamadhi. If you watch sadhguru closely, and compare it to your own consciousness, its clear there's still some egoic conscousness there. But what gives you the desire to awaken? God!

Why would you go for anything else? That's so beta

Sure, we can agree to disagree.

Not bitter, that's just my expression. I'm totally fine with how women work. And its a relief and a bit of a joy to not pretend that women want nice, self love guys when they don't. It always feels good when you align yourself with the truth. And its always great to shed off social conditioning. Women have been socially conditioned to want 'nice guys' because culture tells them to find them and keep away from bad guys. And spiritual women who watch lots of spiritual videos are indoctrinated into ranking how valuable and worthwhile a person is based on how conscious, pure and 'enlightene' they are. Yet this is all spiritual indoctrination and dogma. We're all one. And such value-ranking systems are a trap. To truly take this path seriously, you need to stop judging jerks and assholes and unconditionally love them and see jerkness as Love. The ranking system is a sneaky survival mechanism used to very convincingly prevent you from doing that and therefore enlighten. I'm just excited and enthusiastic about shedding delusion. I love it. Its not bitterness. Its enthusiasm. Feel free to disagree with everything I wrote. This is a personal insight of mine through pickup experience and lots of contemplation work. EDIT No you didn't mention you weren't into masculine guys, but another thing you're not conscious of yet is masculinity is essentially dominance, order and assertion/aggression. Masculinity essentially has a bit of jerkness in it. A fundamental element of masculinity is jerkness. You'd probably be incapable of becoming aware of this truth, because you probably judge and hate jerks(like most egos) it takes transcendence of ego to see that masculinity is essentially a bit of a jerk by itself. So if you're into masculine men, you're into men that are at the very least, a tad bit of a jerk.

None of my girlfriends would bang Eckhart Tolle. There's very clear evidence that to be an attractive man, masculinity is important. And masculinity is a bit jerkish by definition. Look at Peter Ralstone, Jed Mckenna and Osho, arguably deeply masculine teachers(compared to feminine teachers like Matt Khan) and each masculine teacher is a bit of an ass.

Wait you're into masculine guys? And a Self Love spiritual teacher is too feminine for you? That's insane! Never would have thought... Zak Efron

No its not those things. Women want MASCULINE guys. Masculinity means dominance and assertion. Dominance and assertion is what's hot. None of my girlfriends find Sadhguru, Matt Khan, Adyshanti hot. They find George Clooney, Johnny Depp, Tom Cruise, Russel Brand hot. What does George Clooney got that Matt Khan hasn't? Dominance and assertion. Matt Khan has self love, but that does shit for attraction. But of course, you're identified as a women, so understanding this is pretty much impossible for you.

of course, and the one who plays the game the best, wins.

She wont if you give her what she wants, but she will if you give her a little bit of what she wants, and implicitly promise her to give her more if she comes to your place.

Sure but the US isn't my government and therefore can't fuck me in the ass as well as it could if I was a US citizen. For it to fuck me in the ass, it would have to invade and fully conquer my country. And the government can't extradite anyone. It can't extradite russians or north koreans and even Chinese now. And when Trump fully alienates all of his allies(which he's doing a fabulous job at by the way), he wont be able to extradite me in my cosy democratic country either If the court was corrupt enough to allow wiretaps and other illegal means to get a warrant, you wouldn't be living in the US, you would be living in China. That's China. That's what such a country looks like. Your country feels very different to china, and its because your government follows through on your rights as a citizen. The alternative would make a very different looking country. If your government really could do the stuff you're suggesting, and get away with it, you'd find yourself in a very different country. Corrupt healthcare statistics, lower wage for workers, lack of presidential nominees, much more concentrated distribution of wealth(like brazil), lack of power to protest, write petitions that do anything, lack of media coverage and influence, etc. Because absolute power corrupts absolutely, and if the government had the power to get a warrant through illegal means, they would use that power for a hell of a lot more than finding drugs in your house. They would use it to limit your democratic freedoms, lower your wage, and increase their wealth.

No hahahaha. No its not as granular as that. Google does, but not the NSA. That's why the NSA wants back doors to google's servers. The US != the world. Every government is different, just because the NSA does it doesn't mean 'my' NSA does. That's not suppose to happen by law. That's only happening because the US is corrupt. And of course that corruption wont last long, because it eventually bites them in the ass. Citizens rebel, relationships with other countries deteriorate, etc. So its only time till the NSA's corruption will close shop. And even then, we're talking about ordinary criminals here, not international agents. Criminals get prosecuted through the court, and the court has rules on what is considered decent evidence. You can't just be wiretapped or the NSA entering your premises and getting evidence without a warrant. So I can pretty much grow weed in my house thanks to the freedoms, rights and regulations provided to me by the government(if I was living in the US). Of course the government will not allow the enemy to go mainstream. If the US can't even allow China to go mainstream, then good luck to its citizens that go against it. but overcoming regulation and laws through finding loopholes will always be mainstream. Meth and piracy are pretty mainstream and always will be. There will be highs and lows depending on what level the feds or criminals are up to, but it will always be there. Of course it will never be 'accepted' by the government, but it will be used by a wide range of people.

No you're completely inaccurate in your assertions about the government being able to track VPNs. Or track any other aspect of their citizens. Tracking people with high granularity, as envisioned by George Orwell is completely impossible for a democratic government to do. And as for the authoritarian once, authoritarianism isn't a sustainable way to run a country and will eventually be wiped out and implode on itself. Its a game of cat chasing the mouse. The cat NEVER wins, and likewise so doesn't the mouse. The cat eventually gets the mouse every time BUT there are always more mice, and the government can't fully eliminate all mice. The Fed's (democratic nations) own regulation prevents them from defeating all of the mice. The feds must obey privacy laws, entrapment limitations, rights of citizens, wiretapping laws, etc. Otherwise their evidence gets thrown out in court. So the criminals always have the freedom to overcome the law for a period of time. And there will always be more mice, and creative ways of overcoming the system. Darknet will be taken down eventually, but will be replaced by an even more sophisticated and intelligent dark net. Darknet v2. Before darknet don't forget, darket had a predecessor. criminals would put viruses on computers of civilians, and then use those viruses to transfer messages in an anonymous way. The feds finally got on top of that, but as soon as they did darknet came out. There are already alternatives to Tor being developed right now that are far more anonymous that Tor. And in countries (like China and Singapore) where their government doesn't allow the freedom necessary for criminals to create their fringe systems (privacy laws, entrapment, wire tapping, etc), there is much less crime that happens, but at the expense of lack of human rights and dissatisfied civilians. And eventually this lack of freedom will bite them in the buttocks, in all areas, just like what we are seeing now with China being alienated from large portions of the world.

yeah but to get her to put you on a pedastool, you need to put yourself on a pedastool If you don't even think you're worthy enough to be put on a pedastool, so wont she. In my experience that's right, once you've 'hooked her' or reeled her in, or gotten her pursuing you, she'll feel more attracted to you if you feel equal to her, and make her feel loved and valued, and be nice, but to get her chasing you, to get her hooked, or to get her attention, she'll chase you and be way more attracted to you if you act like she's a piece of dirt on the ground, and you're only spending time with her out of pity and because you feel so bad that there's someone so insignificant and worthless in this world as her. Well to get status and money in a stage orange city largely means being a jerk. Not necessarily needy, but pragmatic, strategic and effective.

No not equal, 1000x better than her. Its not about not putting her on a pedastool, its about putting yourself on a pedastool. That's if you want to get results at the cost of being a jerk.

LOL! Spoken like a true noob. Mate, there's no dark spirits, or expert shamans or any of that nonsense. Psychedelics are way less scary, wild, out there, then what everyone tells ya. Human beings get very dry lips when they don't move for a period of time, which makes their lips feel uncomfortable, so they look for any tiny opportunity to move those lips. Dark Spirits, entities, expert shamans, are all good excuses to not get dry lips. Just make and take the god damn thing. What's the worst that can happen? Infinite Love? LOL.

I find that being self centred and putting yourself first and being selfish is attractive to women. And being self centred has nothing to do with being a push over, its got to do with being a jerk. You can attract girls while being nice, you can just attract more through being self centred. And why not be self centred if it works better? Its better for you too.

@killyourinnerloser awesome! I'm looking to ask experienced people about nice guy mentality after hooking women. I've noticed that they react better when you're a jerk rather than when you're nice to them, and i need a super experienced guy(s) to talk about that. Hence why im looking for a forum or 1 v 1 sessions for daygame

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