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your mum doesn't know anything either, is she awake?

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You're selfish for trying to enlighten! You just sit there and focus on yourself, how shallow can you be!

you should try rape after doing a covid swab

@Fran11 nice description! '

I swear to god they weren't real when I was writing that reply

Yes. It doesn't feel that way to you(you're not actually seeing the meteor hitting you) because infinity also includes you being finite and not seeing the infinity. If you insist that infinity = I must see myself getting hit by a meteor in infinity dimensions, can't you see that that's you putting a limit on infinity? If infinity is truly infinite, then it must include the state you're in now, and it wouldn't be able to if you had it your way and said that infinity must be blablabla. yes it includes everything your finite brain can imagine, and way more. Infinity is a bad word, a much better word is undefined. The universe is literally undefined. It includes pink dolphins, real life spongebob, and even crazy things like Trump And that's just what your finite brain can imagine, what about all the stuff an advanced alien brain can imagine? Tesla could of imagined? God could have imagined?

@SoonHei there's a hell of a lot more then just knowing who you are Goodnight bro, have a good sleep.

The finite is created through forgetting yourself. When you read this message, to understand what I'm writing, you're forgetting yourself to allow this limited form to exist. You're getting lost in my words. Forgetting that you're infinite love. When you read my sentence, you forget about everything except the semantic meaning of this sentence. All that exists in this sentence realm is the meaning of this sentence. Where's the cars, houses, your brother, the universe, your mystical insights? Literally forgotten while you're getting lost in my words. You don't know anything but the sentence while reading this. And suffering is when you stay lost, forgetting yourself for too long. Without getting lost in this sentence, this sentence couldn't exist, and God couldn't be infinite. You're cycling between forgetting yourself, and remembering yourself, a trillion times a millisecond, to allow the creation of infinite forms. Form = formlessness is a shorthand for the process of cycling between forgetting and remembering. Its impossible to love something. You cannot love your brother, sister, mum, your video games, car, house, etc. When you say "I love this music" what you're really saying is "I remember that I'm infinitely connected to this music, every pixel of consciousness is infinitely connected to itself, in infinite dimension, in infinite ways, through infinite arrangements, during infinite amounts of time, in infinite directions". There is no such thing as loving someone. There is just an acknowledgement of what you are. If you contemplate "what does it mean to love someone" you'll discover it means to see what you are. To see that you're infinitely connected. There is a singularity going on right now between forgetting and remembering. The universe is literally made through forgetting and remembering. There's all of this form, yet its all infinite. OMG they coexist through an extremely fast episode of forgetting and remembering. Holy shit this is the engine of the universe. And its not limited to just being fast, Some people are enlightened, some people are very unenlightened, over lifetimes. This is a stretched out form of forgetting and remembering. And then there's oscillating between forgetting and remembering in a millisecond, like when you listen to great music, then forget the great music, or having awakenings, etc. Or when you're in a state where you can simultaneously see the form and formlessness in an object at once. The forgetting and remembering oscillates in an infinite arrangements of time. I've never read about this before, or heard a teacher talk about this before. This is the most shocking thing ever.

thanks for sharing, really enjoyed that, +1.

@SoonHei the mind/body will die along with the rememberance, you might as well quench your curiosity and see what happens. The greatest rewards in this work isn't being in a particular state, but seeing how reality works regardless of the state you're in.

@SoonHei i get what you're saying, but im going meta on that stuff. For example go take salvia and see if you're still rooted in that rememberance as a can of soup. You start of unrooted in this journey then get rooted. Sure you can say time is an illusion and you were always enlightened, but there was a time of forgetting. How does that process work itself? You'll notice that as you went through your spititual journey, the oscillations between forgetting and remembering sped up. You can measure how enlightened someone is through the speed of those oscillations(not saying time is real). There are states where its pure white and forgetting everything(godhead) and states of complete forgetting(normal people) and states where you function in society but still feel the rootedness. This is because forgetting and remembering is oscillating a trillion times a millisecond.

I agree but what i have seen is you can stay rooted in yourself by forgetting and remembering very rapidly. Sobersss, psychedelics dont like me.

@Shmurda I get what you're saying, and your post is a topic the re-occurs periodically on this forum. And the poster usually ends up seeing how their position wasn't quite true and they move on. Im not superior, i did it here(not saying our posts are the same, but we share common messages). And plenty of other posters did it. And plenty will do it in the future. I think having this awareness is helpful on its own. Yeah you've got a good message, stop mental masturbation and get on with the work, but the forum owners and mods already know this message, and have put stuff in place to support this message, and we've ended up with the best possible scenario. This forum is quite old now, and the themes that pop up now have been popping up since this forum's birth. Having others dissect your words can be deeply irritating especially if the dissector at hand is an idiot. Because it can seem like they just miss your message, or arent interested in listening to you, but rather are just interested in projecting their views. Again, i get that. But really how can it be any other way? The spiritual path is really about ripping the floor from under you. In a jnana context, its about you having assumptions about the world and questioning them. We all have different perspectives on here, and the best spiritual guidance you could get is people trying to rip the floor from under you. Theres no point egging on your assumptions, or going along with you with your assumptions. That wont grow you, what will is us questioning your deeply held assumptions that you project in your OP. And you'll notice that the most helpful people on here question your assumptions, they dont egg them on or go along with you. And having the idiots not understand you or try to tell you that you're wrong is just a rough edge in this highly effective approach to growing you. And really its an opportunity to test your capacity to love your little idiot selves a growing opportunity. So in a twisted way, yes i agree that you've got a good message, but this forum is already perfect at the same time which ties beautifully with the whole "Everything is already perfect" mantra.

Infinity includes us being separate, along with everything else as one singularity. Therefore we are one

There's no such thing as deception. Everything is absolutely True and Real, including non duality and duality. There's no such thing as Truth, because everything is True. False is just as True as True is. Infinity includes "reality is a dream and I don't exist". It also includes "reality is real and I do exist" and it includes everything in between. It doesn't need to assert its existence because it exists by default and no assertion makes anything exist.

Yes. Everything exists. There's no such thing as non existence.

@VeganAwake snort a kilo of 5-MEO-DMT up your nose and write to me that then ill believe you.

I've gotta feeling Leo may have some clarity on this. The situation is I had a trillion questions that I wanted to answer an hour ago, just out of deep curiosity. Real juicy ones like "why do we suffer", "how do we live a principled life", "what should I be doing with my career", "what will I dream after the body mind dies", "why did I dream this specific dream right now, why am I this specific physical avatar" and a whole lot more cool ones. But now, I've forgotten how to contemplate. Whenever I ask a question, the answer is "Love", for every answer. And that answer isn't some alias for some structure, its the fabric of reality itself. It has no form to it. All the answers are formless. Its not concrete and its not an 'insight'. The answers are no longer insights. Insights as in an 'aha!' And I think this is because, all questions rely on assumptions. For example the question "why do pawns move forward and left" requires chess to be real. But what if it isn't? Then all of the questions about chess just end up being "there's no chess". And I think that's what I've been doing for the last 4 years. I thought I was getting somewhere, hardcore contemplating reality, but all I was doing, was answering questions within a context that didn't exist in the first place. And I got a lot of profound answers, which made sense until the context dissolved. I had a trillion insights under my belt, now I feel like I know nothing. Back to where I started. I look at the content of this forum and its like I'm back 4 years ago looking at this stuff for the first time. I've also forgotten what isn't love. I can't remember what isn't love. So the chess board has dissolved. But as Leo says 'there's deeper!' cool well lets go deeper then! Sounds fun and its what I want to do. I still feel like seeking hardcore and am still deeply dissatisfied spiritually. And contemplation has been by far the most powerful technique I've used. It really suits this physical avatar's personality type. I would love to feel the present moment/reality on a deeper level more and contemplate more deeply into it, but as said before questions aren't working anymore. I need a questionless contemplation. Would love some clarity on this, thanks!

only if you 100% remember yourself. Clearly forgetting is a real thing. You wouldn't be talking to me if you truly remembered yourself 100%. You wouldn't know who I was or what this forum is.

@Preety_India I'm forgetting myself to create you!!!!!!

Interesting thanks for the share. Althought don't see why you think tech types getting into spirituality is a big deal. I've been an engineer for a while now and have been into hard core spirituality as well. I've got quite successful friends who have invented every day products that are into spirituality (albeit at a basic level).

I'm the best at learning my lessons. In my previous life I changed from a man on the streets to an enlightened millionaire, but then I reincarnated into the fool I am now.

"Look I'm not afraid of dying, but I am afraid of being forced to endure suffering and indignity of being totally dependent on other people while I'm dying" Fuck she's a brave woman! I'd be scared of the opposite.

You realize Frank, that if you truly had it your way, you would be enlightened 24/7? God would never unenlighten if you truly had it your way. Why would you unenlighten yourself? And yet Frank at the beginning of your journey you weren't. So clearly you haven't reached the highest state, because if you did, you'd see the value of unenlightening yourself. What's the point of staying stuck at some sub par state of consciousness? Maybe the point isn't locking stuff in, chasing happiness, scrambling to keep a particular state for as long as you can, maybe the point is simply to see the truth itself?