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@Matthew Lamot and one last thing before I stop procrastinating on this forum, stop identifying me with the new age movement, because I have never been involved with it. Everything I am saying has been produced by me, and me only. I heard the word new ageism for the first time on this thread. If you really care about helping others, you wouldn't falsely presume things onto other people

this isnt techniques btw, its just your opinion on what the self is. You should watch Leo's videos, he gives actual concrete instructions on how to get to enlightenment. Thats what we are all after

@Matthew Lamot Matthew please, stop misinterpreting what im saying. You have misinterpreted me at least 8 times in this post. and it will take too much to point them all out. I'm after step by step process such as: 1. look at an object and distance yourself from the thoughts of it or whatever your teachings say. I have asked now 3 times for this information, and you just reply with your BS about what your perspective of enlightenment is. Why not give me links RIGHT NOW, instead of showing me how wrong my worldview is, and how right yours is. Give me the links now, give me the steps now! If you can't do that, no one is going to listen to you, because on actualized.org, we care about enlightenment, not being dogmatic. If you don't like that find some 3 year olds to brain wash. and I love that excuse you give, that you are only replying to me to negate me, and to help others. We all know that you are replying to me because you are emotionally stimulated. funny I use to use that BS excuse once too. Reason why I'm replying, is because I am considering your prespective, in case you do have some good information about reaching higher levels of consciousness, but you don't seem to want to give it to us, is it because you don't have any and youre just bluffing? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and if you really need me to prove to you that I HAVE read your stuff, here you go: "if you want to create a 3 Michelin Star meal you use the right materials." -> youre saying your ways are better than anyone elses, see that? That's what you accused me and shamed me of doing. "Non duality means "truth". Its the truth. This means it is not an "experience" of non duality. It means weeding out all the lies from the mind which destroys the binding vasanas. So true non dual teachings ARE the ultimate no bullshit path. Thats what Advaita means, its literally means NO BULLSHIT! So when you say that the jiva (relative self) must learn to accept others, this is a fallacy. It is a fallacy because it is not part of the teaching. Its true that in reality there is no hate, but you cannot give the POV of the Self over to the Jiva to make a belief out of. That is not how it works. How it works is we respect the relative realm and give the jiva Self Inquiry and teachings to Realize the Self." -> I don't know if you realize this, but all of this is dogma, and you are saying that the above ^ is the truth, and what I wrote is wrong, can't you see how this is dogmatic? You accuse me of doing things that you do! "Youre a dreamer, but I post responses so I can negate you. Not because I give a fuck about you, or your liberation. Someone will read this and say "fuck me, he might have a point". Those mature and sincere students are few and far between, but they are around." -> you have a lot of hatred against me for an enlightened person.

@Sultan lol Sultan if you want drama go watch Kim Kardashian. It may be fun to watch, but its also a distraction and an impedement to PD

@Matthew Lamot i dont really want to read enlightenment books because it will add to the dogmatism. Would much rather just see what America looks like instead of wasting time memorising the error prone map of it. Just you seem to do the same as me, and say that my concept is wrong and your concept is right, like on 80% of your replys. Isnt that being hypocritical? So lets say i do take on your advice, where are the resources for these ultimate teachings? Where are the meditation techniques? What religion are you even talking about?

@Matthew Lamot You said that my belief is wrong, if you were truely open minded, you would have said that my belief is an opinion, but you didnt. All words are signposts to the real thing. Words arent the truth itself. You cant accurately say that someone's idea is wrong, after an awareness related experience. All words are stories. I'm willing to explore other teachings, but I'm on a strict no BS diet. And when you say that one POV is more wrong than the other, it shows clearly that you are dogmatic. Ehy would i trust someones teachings if they themselves are dogmatic? You also fail to give step by step techniques, ways in which to get to enlightenment, you just spout out your POV of what enlightenment is. And how evil ageism is. That isnt helping anyone. Your pretty much saying convert to islam because i have experience that islam works. Christianity is bs. Who would listen to that??? Why should we just trust that you have experience? Anyone can say that. This is how religion is formed, by listening to dogma that people like you present, and then just believing it relentlessly.

@Matthew Lamot What's the difference between you and a fundamentalist, dogmatic muslim? Because both of you are 100% certain that you are right, and both of you are 100% intolerant of other teachings apart from your own. Both of you are 100% unaware that misinterpreting a book written 3000 years ago is possible, and that language is ambiguous and have shortcomings when trying to understand spirituality. Both of you have a purpose to spread your ideas to other people. How am I no less gullible listening to you, than listening to the leader of a fundamentalist muslim?

@Matthew Lamot "or stick to your many enlightenment books" you didn't read anything I wrote, didn't you? Pity. What I told you wasn't a belief, it was a fact that my experience proved to me. I'll take you up on your offer to learn and question my beliefs. But I don't want to hear about your pretentious, obnoxious hatred for new ageism, because as many others see, its so egotistical and dogmatic it makes everyone on here cringe. Give us on this forum advice about how to expand our awareness, actual techniques. Not some beliefs about how mighty your crystalized 8 bc book is. Because when I hear beliefs that are backed up by 0 evidence, and sound like they are being told by an old pissed of British man whose soul purpose is to pressure sell his ego, I as many others do, switch off. If you can't present that, your like every other pretentious, dogmatic jerk on this forum.

Well that's strange, because I haven't read any books about enlightenment, or spoken to anyone about meditation apart from Leo's videos. I never said you had to love yourself, all im saying is that you shouldn't hate people because of their egoism. When you hate someone, you're implying that you think they shouldn't be there, like you are arrogantly telling god( or universe if you hate that word) that he should not have created that. Well guess what, god, who is more powerful, and almighty than what you will ever be, did put them there, they are in awareness, and if you want to reach high levels of consciousness, you better get on god's page, and accept them as well. Question why do you believe selfishness is bad? I guarantee you it will come down to some arbitrary belief, that the universe doesn't obey.

@popi People are complex, sometimes they are selfish, but sometimes they are selfless. They may be selfish in relationships, but selfless in their charity work. Its much greyer than what you think. You can't paint a range of people with just one brush.

@popi why is being selfish a bad thing? I know we have been socially conditioned to put shame upon people who are selfish, but why? Why do you hate selfish people? They are apart, and accepted by this universe as much as you are. God created them

what about if one of those reasons are to develop a connection with someone to sequentially care for them? The reason why you want to enter a relationship is to learn about another individual, develop a better understanding about them, and then to help and care for them, to gain fulfillment from helping someone you share similarities with, and know deeply? Yeah your message does sound cynical, but is there really anything cynical about the selfishness of a relationship? Like what a brilliant way of gaining benefits! Use other people and come up with an arragement to do so! Its much more sophisticated and smart than trying to reap those benefits independently. But you make relationships sound like business deals, there aren't quite business deals, there are(potentially) much more deep and fulfilling rewards from being in a relationship, then comming up with a deal with some bank to rip off civillians.

@bloo stop playing your guitar, and write a book about your life, because that was a fucking intriguing story you told there.

@username upload consciousness???????? What the hell does that even mean?

@soniadoll_ I don't know much about you or your situation, but is asking you whether you have a foot fetish that bad of a thing to ask? Why do you take people's words so seriously? He is probably just trying to make a rather boring event fun and quirky. You don't believe in freedom of speech either dont you? The thing precious leftys like you need to understand is that words coming out of his mouth are just sound waves, that's it. You can easily ignore the meaning of those sound waves, and then the problem will disappear. You say your having trouble sleeping at night because of it. I don't know why, what's the worst thing that can happen? He can get upset that you are ignoring him. And besides, have you noticed that the thing that's stressing you out are just thoughts, they aren't even real. Distance yourself from them. People literally ran directly into line of fire back in world war 2, and you can't sleep because of sound waves exiting someone's mouth? You are making too much of a deal out of this, don't listen to those self sabotaging thoughts.

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I'm currently struggling to decide what courses I should take next semester for university. I'm currently doing a batchelor of computer science. currently I'm not enjoying my course, and I feel like psychology will be more my thing. So I'm considering choosing a fundamental unit/course in psychology at my university, to see whether I would like it or not. Though the only problem is that if I stay in computer science, I really need to change to another university, as my university has a bad reputation for computer science, and that I have ambitious plans in the future for my career. If I choose to do a batchelor of psychology, I will have to redo a unit/course which costs around 4000 dollars. What do you guys think? Should I change to psychology to see if I will like the subject, or should I do a unit of study like physics or discrete maths, which will allow me to change universities and get full credit for my courses?

@Siim Land I work in Artificial Intelligence, my goal is to make the singularity occur in 2030. I sleep 6 hours a night to do it

So I want to get involved in personal development, because I'm very aware of the fact that one day I will die, and if I don't do something now, I'm going to regret it. The only problem is, I'm not entirely sure what I want to do, or what I should do. I know I want to impact the world somehow, or get involved in a startup, but not exactly sure which startup or why. Recently I have taken on a lot of projects, volunteering projects at university, being apart of toastmasters, hanging out with friends moreso(improving my introvertedness). I have been doing these projects for 6 months now, and while these tasks I have taken on for myself are positive, and what a 'good person' does, I'm not feeling any better about doing them. I feel kind of out of place, and weirdly like doing these projects are a waste of time. I'm not getting any meaning out of doing these projects. Its hard to describe, the feeling you get when your doing something that is pointless. Does everyone feel like this after doing activities you should be doing after 6 months, or is my dissatisfaction telling me something? If it is, what should i do instead to improve my life? I don't want to just sit back and piss my life away, I want to do something that will develop my experience, and grow myself.

Hi guys, I think the one big problem or obstacle we face when we try to meditate is our mind saying stuff like "this is boring!" "wow I have 30 minutes left??? This is hell, I can't do this!", "this is so painful i cant explain how painful it is" etc etc. These sort of thoughts are able to make meditation unproductive, or even make us quit our meditation session. Is there any way to alleviate these thoughts, so that we can sit and meditate for longer periods of time? What I have done is picture me relaxing on a nice warm beach whenever I experience thoughts that could potentially make me stop meditating. Though are these techniques appropriate during meditation?

There's heaps of research that shows you how to improve your memory. Here are some tips: - use the Cornell method for writing. Draw as many pictures as you can, but if you are using technology, then use the outline method. Do this on google docs, or my favourite, onenote or evernote. - Look at your notes, and then look away from your notes and try to remember it, keep repeating that. - interweave your notes for reviewing. What I mean is, if you have several topics, try and do the above step, but scatter the content you look at. For e,g. try and remember topic 1, then try and remember something from topic 5, etc. - interleave your notes, so within a topic, dont just try and remeber the exact same phrase, try and scatter different parts of your topic. - reflect on your remembering skills, reflect on what you learnt, how well you went, etc. - make a memory palace for information that isn't that intuitive, but is physical - make memory cues where possible. Ultimately what you are trying to do is use System 2, instead of System 1. Because System 2 is used for consolidating your memory.

You seem to be cherry picking the parts you like, there are plenty of parts of the Quran that doesn't refer to reality. Can you sense a pointing to the truth in any of these quotes: "For those who deny (the coming of) the Hour We have prepared a flame. When it seeth them from afar, they hear the crackling and the roar thereof. And when they are flung into a narrow place thereof, chained together, they pray for destruction there." 25:11-13 -> Why does someone have to prepare the flame, when they are already in it?? Qur’an 9:29—"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." -> Jizyah is a metaphor? Really? And judgment day has nothing to do with reality.

@Davie the point about meditation is about letting go of beliefs, in the contex of Leos advice. Its about distancing yourself from perceptions you've had about reality. The point here though is not about sitting a specific way, or having a specific posture, they are just beliefs, the thing you are trying to avoid during your meditation experience. Do whatever you want during meditation, as long as it doesnt reinforce your dogmatism.

Hi guys, So I'm originally a hyper rational, new athiest patriot who knows all of the religious counter arguments off by heart. As a new initiative to become opened minded(to the point where I am willing to adopt Christianity) I decided to go to HillSong Church, and have been for the last 6 weeks. At the beginning, the preacher seemed to(from my perspective) conjecture lofty motivation porn, supported by cherry picked, illogical, and non sensical quotes from the Bible, and I would uncomfortably watch everyone get real deeply connected to the words. Richard Dawkin's counter arguments, ripping apart every religious sentence spoke, and my fear of giving into guillibility, made sure I felt out of place within church. Until recently. I had an experience of the ox's tale(which I'll leave 'caught a glimpse' to explain), and concerningly, for the last 2 sunday nights, I've found myself acting like my seemingly sucked in, brainwashed Christian colleagues who really get deep into the words of the songs and the preacher. I now agree with the preachers! Like today, they quoted "Your love, O LORD, reaches to the heavens, your faithfulness to the skies." and I connected so deeply to that quote today because it reminded me of how deep reality accepted and loved itself in my meditation experience. Even this quote, "We are being renewed day by day.So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal” -> which I once would state is stupid and illogical, now after 6 weeks of Christianity makes perfect sense to me. what is unseen(higher self) IS eternal! that's why you have to go into deep meditation to find it! And what is seen is temporary, our world around us is TEMPORARY! And how god is our freedom(when the ego revealed its true nature; it reveal that IT was the cause of oppresion within my awareness And how they talk about how we need to surrender to god... after that meditation experience, seeing the ego reveal its true illusory nature, and the feeling of just observing an all knowing, all powerful reality consume it, just made me want to surrender to reality so much. Reality knows what 'I' want, way more than 'I' do. There's so much wisdom in the Bible, that while arguing with Christians, I have overlooked! I don't know what's happening to me, how can someone who was apart of the athiest movement fall into the hands of HillSong Church so easily? Are HillSong just that good at persuading people to believe in god? Or is my meditation just having some weird side effects that will pass in time? I'm so scared that I'm being brainwashed, I'm well aware of the abilities of the church to brainwash people, I don't want to end up that gullible, but at the same time I'm feeling a deep connection with Christianity.... even writing that just gives me shivers, after being influenced by so many church warning athiests around me... Has the church officially fucked my brain??

@Leo Gura Why do you need to study the material? What advantages are there to hearing about dogma? I can understand learning techniques, but learning about enlightenment itself seems to me to have no place