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nope, you still have infinite levels to go

Hey guys, I've got 10 values that I have discovered through Leo's life purpose course, but for some reason, my love or connection with them/my enthusiasm for them alternate throughout the day. Sometimes I can be real inspired by my value of beauty, and will feel like making a video game that takes people there, etc. And sometimes I wont care about beauty at all, and my value of order will kick in, and I'll start feeling really really connected with order, and making a very ordered, holistic, complex project, like a factory or something. Are values suppose to change in intensity? Is your enthusiasm for your values meant to alternate? Or is that a sign that your values are inauthentic

I've been contemplating on this Koan for a while now. Can anyone give me some hints? does it mean enlightenment is like being fully aware, but at the same time being totally out of control?

@OBEler No. And how do you know the astral realm isn't the 'real' realm, and this reality is the illusion? Or both? When I was a kid(around 8 or 9 years old) I use to truly believe that consensus reality was illusory, and that dreams at night were real. I don't see any problem with believing that.

@Ry4n Astral projections are, in my experience, in between a lucid dream, and consensus reality. It is absolutely essential for enlightenment work, if you're serious. You need to become aware of the various forms reality can take, and astral projections give you that. They are the key to breaking the laws of physics, which is an essential illusion to let go of. Most people use astral projections as though they are a recreational drug. But in my experience, you can use astral projections to enhance contemplation exercises, and to look deep within yourself to find what problems you are currently facing.

Can you elaborate on how this differs to say an accountant, or a secretary, or a receptionist, or a mechanical engineer working on solidworks, or a construction engineer, or even a writer; who sits at a computer, writing away. Yes, the actual work differs quite a bit. Coding is mechanical and very dry. But this is no different to physics(the stuff Albert did all day)? I've researched quite a bit on what the best job for me would be(as part of your life purpose) and have discovered that I was put here to invent something that would connect us with the world. Maybe like an app that shoots people koans to read every day. Or maybe turn it into a game to make it fun, etc. But no matter what I choose to invent, its going to be behind a cubicle, because every job ive researched that involves invention, is behind a cubicle. Some awesome jobs that aren't behind a cubicle: a firefighter, fighter pilot, surgeon, lawyer, etc. But all of these jobs are not for ones with a creator mindset, because you don't create anything in them, you are just a user of an invention. You can't be a visionary and be a fire fighter. So how can you make an inventive impact, and not be behind a cubicle, with arrangements like that?

@username yes of course There is Being an asshole can be described as a behavioural trait where the individual acts as though he is entitled to more things than other individuals, or who break social rules deliberately, motivated out of pure high self esteem, and lack of regard for other parties involved. Being an asshole can promote social status in some circumstances. Particularly where the individuals who you are targeting posses extreme materialistic desires, or who have an insecurity around their self worth. Being an asshole can also persuade certain individuals to work harder in business. Relevant readings: The good psychopath's guide to success

That's just about every job out there these days. Even being a writer. Minus coaching, teaching and obviously outdoor activities. Is that any different to your job? You're basically a PD researcher. That must require 10 hours of staring into a box a day.

After the thread about Leo's 18th insight, I'm starting to realize that I judge myself a lot for not acting 'spiritual' enough. I chastise myself if I act harshly to someone else, or if I don't meditate on a particular day, or if I act angry at someone, I'll be a tad bit disappointed that it exists in the first place, and feel bad about it. Though I've become aware of this, and am starting to realize that if I feel angry at someone, or if I'm judging someone, I should fully accept that and love that aspect of me. Though after coming onto this forum, one thing I really judge myself on, is my desire to change the world, change people's opinions, invent technology, make people more aware etc. Because in the back of my head, I have a voice telling me that an enlightened person is someone who has no position -> changing people's opinions is a big no no, I should be ok with the world the way it tiz. But this has caused so much tension within me, because I really really feel like turning into an evangelical spiritualist, running around on the street, trying to question people's existence until something ticks in their head. I really deep down don't want to just sit on my ass all day, telling myself the same mantra that the world is perfect. I get the world is perfect, I've had spiritual experiences where all of my judgments, and beliefs dissipated, and all that was left was existence, which showed me that the only reason why the world isn't perfect, is because we have beliefs deep down telling us how the world should be. Take those away, and the world is perfect. But I still feel like being an evangelist, the desire is empirically there, and denying it isn't making anything better. Maybe being an ideological crusade is a good thing, and is the right thing for some people? When those annoying evangelists come up to me, while their stubbornness is irritating, there's something that really captivates me about them. They are trying to make the world a more magical and fulfilling place, and the fact that they are doing it in a group, all with the same message is beautiful. Or is being an ideological crusader wrong still? Is this all just ego?

Do you have empirical evidence that she is warm and genuine? No then its a projection. Simple.

This is a projection. If you want to grow, you need to be aware of what you are doing. I'm projecting like crazy, but im aware of it.

"He sacrificed his all and identified himself with the poorest of the poor. He dressed like them, lived like them." what rich man would do that? I don't call people stuck in the cycle as samsara as intelligent. They are slaves to their own unconsciousness. The wisest men realize that to have the most meaningful impact on the world, they need to sacrifice all of their desires. That takes intelligence, something more worthy than a rich man. This entire post is about a discussion, about your projection on Trumps wife. Keep dreaming girl.

Yeah you're right. And by that logic, there's nothing shallow with a guy only choosing 9s and 10s as dating material. We are only looking for good genetics for our offspring ya know. +1 the poorest people are the most intelligent. The richers people are the retarded ones. The poor ones know money wont get you anywhere, the rich ones don't. Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jesus, Aristotle were all poor.

Yeah I would, they are more admirable than anyone else on the planet. Beggars are the ones who have chosen to have the balls to go against the corrupt system called society, and live on their own terms. Even if that mean no internet, electricity, home, good food, etc. And also women, who are too myopic to see the value of children being raised by such a man, and such harsh living conditions. The type of women you would know so well. Not women's fault. Their unconscious behavior and myopic views are not in their control.

thanks, you've just given me an idea of what project I'm going to work on over the summer: A video game that helps people meditate.

labeling someone as orange, putting them into a box with a label called 'orange', is the most orange thing I've seen in yrs.

@Azrael Nice love the idea of doing little things everyday to push yourself out of your comfort zone, and being inspiried by others, maybe even using each other's challenges to help us grow. Didn't you take 5 meo ages ago though? Wouldn't that experience make you feel like the most high self esteem dude on here? My ways of pushing myself out of my comfort zone is a little esoteric and creepy/disturbing I'm guessing. Since I was a kid, I've had this huge fear of not being able to accept everything the way that it is. So I've set it up upon myself to do things that I, and society at large, deems wrong or bad, to a limit. 1. I really judge assholes. I hate people who believe that they are entitled to more privileges than the rest of the population, and who believe that their egos are the most important things on the planet. So What I did a couple of months ago, is went into a queue at McDonalds, and when it was my turn to order, I waited in the line pretending to decide to order something, for about 3 minutes. Then after that, asked the woman if I could get a big mac for 1 dollar cheaper. My brain made me feel like total shit while doing this exercise. It couldn't stop judging me. But after doing it, and seeing what empirically happened, it made me realize how flimsy my judgments are, and how groundless they are. 2. I always judge guys who can't take a hint while dating, or asking a girl out. So I decided to be that guy for a girl a kind of liked, just to see if my judgments could hold up to scrutiny. Now of course, you do have to be careful of sexual harassment accusations, so you do need to be mindful of when to stop while doing these challenges, but despite that, doing challenges like these really helps you to be able to accept yourself, and your true being to the max. After doing exercises like these, you're able to be yourself freely, because you're ok with being literally anything society can deem you as. You can be an asshole, a dude who can't take a hint, a creep, the black sheep, the weirdo, the boring one, the autistic one, the one everybody hates, and you wont even judge yourself for it, because you are really ok with it after embodying these awful traits yourself, and seeing that all of those traits are just beliefs. I felt disgusting while doing the challenge, but when you see yourself doing it in the real world, you develop a tight appreciation for how god really is accepting your behavior, and the behavior of others, 100% the way.

You're video for this week should be an infield approach on a girl, flirting to her in Sanskrit. Honestly though, you're bullshitting about the Sanskrit part hahahaha. There are no girls who know sanskrit in a strip club.

@30secs lets go little bitch.

I beg to differ. I'm more successful at getting dates when I'm not really into the girl/she's not that attractive or my type. And so are my friends who do cold approach with me. And if you wait around for a sign, I highly doubt you will get much dates. In my experience, men have to be network marketers and convince the girl to give us their numbers and go on dates, otherwise they are just too lazy to say yes.

Hey guys, I have a very strange problem, and i believe some others have this problem as well: I genuinely dont like talking to people. I mean I just genuinely can't be bothered talking to people. And i wouldnt, if i didnt force myelf to. 1. The present moment is fun, but when you talk to someone, you have to leave the present moment and and go into the weird world of whatever the other person is percieving and believing in. 2. Its generally boring. The topics that come up are boring as hell. 3. Its mentally painful. Having to think about the stuff youre talking about is a chore. 4. Talking to people doesnt feel in alignment with one's values. Anyone have some ways of changing this? Its very hard to resolve.

@Prabhaker Well its probably wise not to ruin people's lives then?

Does that ultimately make someone happy though? Acting in that kind of way? That's sounds like an act that would induce bad karma. morals are based on a dualistic worldview, but isn't there a correlation between ruining someone's life and getting bad karma?

@Leo Gura I don't think its black and white. Like a computer program if enlightened then you.contains_morals = false else you.contains_morals = true Surely having a natural desire to be moralistic is possible. Like enlightened people still have beliefs about things, and they do carry them out. Life is a game, but that doesn't mean every enlightened person all of a sudden stops playing it, once they realize it. If you realize the car in GTA 5 is just pixels on the screen, that doesn't mean you'll all of a sudden stop playing it and thinking its a car. And compassion is real. Really morals are just (at least originally) based on a way of dealing with one's natural tendencies for empathy and compassion.