Bernardo Carleial

An excerpt from the book "The Fifth Discipline ". Very good for those who want to learn more about systems thinking! ??? "Often we are puzzled by the causes of our problems; when we merely need to look at our own solutions to other problems in the past. A well-established firm may find that this quarter's sales are off sharply. Why? Because the highly successful rebate program last quarter led many customers to buy then rather than now. Or a new manager attacks chronically high inventory costs and"solves" the problem—except that the salesforce is now spending 20 percent more time responding to angry complaints from customers who are still waiting for late shipments, and the rest of its time trying to convince prospective customers that they can have "any color they want so long as it's black."Police enforcement officials will recognize their own version of this law: arresting narcotics dealers on Thirtieth Street, they find that they have simply transferred the crime center to Fortieth Street. Or, even more insidiously, they learn that a new city wide outbreak of drug-related crime is the result of federal officials intercepting a large shipment of narcotics—which reduced the drug supply, drove up the price, and caused more crime by addicts desperate to maintain their habit. Solutions that merely shift problems, from one part of a system to another, often go undetected, because those who "solved" the first problem are different from those who inherit the new problem." "In George Orwell's Animal Farm, the horse Boxer always had the same answer to any difficulty: "I will work harder," he said. At first, his well-intentioned diligence inspired everyone, but gradually, his hard work began to backfire in subtle ways. The harder he worked, the more work there was to do. What he didn't know was that the pigs who managed the farm were actually manipulating them all for their own profit. Boxer's diligence actually helped to keep the other animals from seeing what the pigs were doing. Systems thinking has a name for this phenomenon: "Compensating feedback": when well-intentioned interventions call forth responses from the system that offset the benefits of the intervention. We all know what it feels like to be facing compensating feedback—the harder you push, the harder the system pushes back; the more effort you expend trying to improve matters, the more effort seems to be required."

This one is a little difficult to categorize... Because it envolves the clash between two kinds of governments: vMEME RED/Blue authoritarian vs vMEME Green progressive... But it seems to me that the invited guest shares a vMEME Green Worldview, so I decided to put the video here, but I found this video a little more nuanced to classify...

vMEME GREEN/Yellow

"A truly profound and different insight is the way you begin to see that the system causes its own behavior." Donella Meadows

You don't have to agree. This is a thread in which we share Green values for the purpose of enriching our knowledge/perception about that particular stage of the spiral .. Whether we agree of disagree with some of the vMEME Green content displayed here, that's up to us.

Bernardo Kastrup's center of gravity is actually vMEME Yellow. But his field of study comes across vMEME Turquoise principles. I'm sharing this particular video because it's the one in which he goes at length trying to explain the significance of vMEME Turquoise, in our perception of reality, from the point of view of vMEME Yellow, which I find it quite interesting...

I always found the development of Transformers Toys a beautiful example of Mastery in Design

"Don't confuse the description of a thing for the thing itself.." That's the biggest problem of vMEME Orange Scientism...

Thanks for the recommendation @Snader! Brazilian movies are very good at tackling these vMEME Red social issues. I loved the trailer and I'm eager to watch the movie now!??

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2LNwwgJqOMKHOqdvwmLxqd?si=BKfwtm6FT1m_nHgRLp2s-w&utm_source=copy-link vMEME Yellow guests discussing vMEME Orange issues

Enemy Song by Imagine Dragons I wake up to the sounds of the silence that allows For my mind to run around with my ear up to the ground I'm searching to behold the stories that are told When my back is to the world that was smiling when I turned Tell you you're the greatest But once you turn they hate us Oh, the misery Everybody wants to be my enemy Spare the sympathy Everybody wants to be my enemy (Look out for yourself) My enemy (look, look, look, look) (Look out for yourself) But I'm ready Your words up on the wall as you're praying for my fall And the laughter in the halls and the names that I've been called I stack it in my mind and I'm waiting for the time When I show you what it's like to be words spit in a mic Tell you you're the greatest But once you turn they hate us (Huh) Oh, the misery Everybody wants to be my enemy Spare the sympathy Everybody wants to be My enemy (look, look, look, look) (Look out for yourself) My enemy (look, look, look, look) (yeah) (Look out for yourself) Uh, look Okay, I'm hoping that somebody pray for me I'm praying that somebody hope for me I'm staying where nobody 'posed to be P-p-posted, being a wreck of emotions Ready to go whenever, just let me know The road is long, so put the pedal into the floor The enemy's on my trail, my energy unavailable I'ma tell 'em hasta luego They wanna plot on my trot to the top I've been outta shape, thinkin' out the box, I'm an astronaut I blasted off the planet rock to cause catastrophe And it matters more because I had it not Had I thought about wreaking havoc on an opposition Kinda shocking they wanted static with precision, I'm automatic Quarterback, I ain't talkin' sacking Pack it, pack it up, I don't panic Batter, batter up, who the baddest? It don't matter 'cause we at ya throat Everybody wants to be my enemy Spare the sympathy Everybody wants to be My enemy Oh, the misery Everybody wants to be my enemy Spare the sympathy Everybody wants to be my enemy Pray it away, I swear I'll never be a saint, no way My enemy Pray it away, I swear I'll never be a saint

Biomimicry - vMEME GREEN/yellow asknature.org

Hayao Miyazaki's Universe is very vMEME Purple

I reccomend watching all the content of this channel. It's very inspiring! both for Artists and Art Lovers!???? https://youtube.com/channel/UCB9berO64_friwLRsKQ9fag

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic Stanley Cohen's Stages of Moral Panic: Setting out to test his hypotheses on mods and rockers, Cohen discovered a pattern of construction and reaction with greater foothold than mods and rockers—the moral panic. According to Cohen, there are five sequential stages in the construction of a moral panic: 1- An event, condition, episode, person, or group of persons is perceived and defined as a threat to societal values, safety, and interests. 2- The nature of these apparent threats are amplified by the mass media, who present the supposed threat through simplistic, symbolic rhetoric. Such portrayals appeal to public prejudices, creating an evil in need of social control (folk devils) and victims (the moral majority). 3- A sense of social anxiety and concern among the public is aroused through these symbolic representations of the threat. 4- The gatekeepers of morality—editors, religious leaders, politicians, and other 'moral'-thinking people—respond to the threat, with socially-accredited experts pronouncing their diagnoses and solutions to the 'threat'. This includes new laws or policies. 5- The condition then disappears, submerges or deteriorates and becomes less visible.

I would put Tony Robbins as an example. Most of the time, the way he presents himself is very balanced, his coaching style is not just "money, money, money...". But also how can we get most fulfillment out of our lives, even if it is just from an vMEME Orange perspective...

I see what you mean... I think you're right. Although in the beginning early human were more like hienas, eating only the carcass that were left by other predators, because they didn't have enough strength and cunningness to do so... only when they started gathering in a group and developing weapons that they were able to hunt effectively. But the video doesn't makes it clear that that was the case.... so it's probably not a good example...

Dude, what you have written is already a good example of vMEME Blue/Orange... The problem is that people associate the stages only with their stereotypes, a top CEO or a priest for example, which is dangerous, because people that are more advanced at the spiral might look at the previous stages and see their excesses as unealthy and don't want to associate themselves with their values... this is a big misconception that I see people make all the time when it comes to SD. The fact that you want to improve yourself and to develop some self-discipline and work ethic already shows that you embodied the healthy aspects of Blue and Orange... a religious fanatic and a Billionaire are just the extremes of that stage, there are more subtleties regarding them, and you have to be grateful that you got those, otherwise you wouldn't be vMEME Green.?? Just as an aside... some about your post puzzled me... you said you moved from orange to green very quickly, that's very uncommon because to move from one's previous paradigm to another requires a lot of shadow work, otherwise you can create a repression to a particular stage, I'm gonna send you a video of Ken Wilber in which he explains exactly what I'm talking about. Wish you all the best @Adodd ??

Are you sure @Carl-Richard?