Bernardo Carleial

A follow-up from that video

I have no idea

There is no "better stage", there are only stages above and below, and each stage, from vMEME Purple and beyond, might be suitable, depending on the environment that you're in... The Spiral Dynamics model is a vMEME Yellow development, it works with paradigms and models of reality (Systems Thinking). vMEME Turquoise, from my position, is post-paradigmatic, Holistic and non-dual Thinking, there is no model that could match Turquoise, because it's connected at the level of BEING, and being transcends any concept and any model you can think of... However, coming from the paradigm of vMEME Yellow, it is entirely possible to develop a model even for vMEME Turquoise, it would not be as complete as the other ones, but still possible...

Tier 2, which is where vMEME Yellow emerges from, is the ground from which the person can realize that society and individuals are developed based on models, and not just that, but he also becomes aware that he himself has his own framework for self-development, and that it too is just model , so why would he not able to conceptualize other stages? Don Beck and Christopher Cowan themselves are at Yellow, and they conceptualized vMEME Turquoise, if its right or wrong I don't know, I've never reached that stage, but because they have been at Yellow for so long, and they approach the SD model from a place of honesty and unbias, that I believe they were able to spot the things that needs to be transcended from Yellow and reach Turquoise, and, because of vMEME Yellow's paradigm, that too is just a model...

Man, you forgot Jay Forrester and Donella Meadows, the developers of Systems Dynamics at MIT https://youtube.com/channel/UCIMMr8pSgOdBdVZYIyZX3Yg

@Carl-Richard Man! I really Love your posts on Systems Thinking!????

This video is very interesting and very informative, it talks about how to develop a global internet, but also regarding its impediments, like the intense trafficking of satellites and debris on Earth's Orbit, running risk of colliding with each other... This video can be very technical sometimes, in fact, there are two technical jargon that I want to explain in case some of the viewers might get lost: Geostationary Orbit - when a satellite follows the Earth's rotation at the same speed, making it constantly covering the same area L.E.O - acronym for Low Earth Orbit, the ideal position to set up satellites with GPS and internet system.

this is why I love the internet! S2 Very educational video.

this video has a lot of everything, but the majority of its content is vMEME Orange

A little extra:

@Preety_India You're right, t's not a big deal. And you're entitled of your opinion as well as I am. I still don't think that Joe Rogan runs a cult-like channel like Alex Jones, but regardless of his intrinsic motives, the misinformation is being spread by anyone who watches him... When I wrote about that as being strawman/ad hominem argument, I wasn't addressing it to you, other people in the forum were making similar associations, and there is no problem with that because, as I said before, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and they can bring other facts which might validate their own positions @Preety_India if my commentary was seen as provocative to you, I want to apologize, it definitely wasn't my intent and it is important to me to have this kind of feedback in order to become more aware the next time something like that might happen in the future...?

There are good trustworthy media, they just are not mainstream media...

This sounds a lot like RSD...

I don't really think that Joe Rogan is stupid, he's just biased... There's a difference in it: a stupid person is generally not able to develop critical thinking, While a biased one might possess some critical thinking, but he orients his reasoning process to suit his own preferable beliefs, because he's not able to metacognize (a.k.a self-reflect) enough to see his own projections into a topic, specially if it's something which he doesn't have enough expertise about it...

This is a short but very educational video, which shows all the steps of the framing problem by what Joe Rogan got it wrong in that clip. It's really worth watching ??

As I said in another thread about this same topic. Joe Rogan is an open minded vMEME Orange and vMEME Green, but he still has a lot of biases which prevents him to go to Tier 2, like this Libertarian appeal for self-reliance, individual responsibility and freedom. I totally disagree that Joe Rogan is the same thing as Alex Jones, Joe is far more conscious than him, and to use the fact that Joe Rogan is friends with Alex Jones in order to justify their argument is really a strawman and an ad hominem attack... yes, he's friend with Alex Jones, which is vMEME BLUE/orange with a lot of vMEME Red, but he's also friends with Graham Hancock and Dennis McKenna, which are quite vMEME Green, this is actually an evidence as to why I think Joe Rogan is an open minded individual... The Problem with Joe Rogan is that he's not able to actualize the role of society and government in our lives, because he thinks from a very atomized perspective of the "free thinker" who questions everything.... Society and Government operates via Consensus, sometimes it happens organically and some others it has to be created some boundaries... and at some times this sucks... but in this particular situation, a health and sanitary crisis, the government needs to adopt very strict measures to have the public opinion working in their favor, because if we have too many variables on how people should behave, the situation then becomes (even more) chaotic, and we would not know what's gonna happen next... I'm not saying that this stuff is either good or bad, what I'm saying is that it's inevitable that this dynamic is going to happen...

Have you watched Democracy Now? https://youtube.com/c/DemocracyNow I find it the most trustworthy news channel, which does real independent journalism

crazy vMEME Green video... Watch and enjoy!?? #IWillGiveAShit

Wow that a very concise and very informative video about this topic!? @Hardkill thanks for sharing!?? And @K Ghoul I hope you find/create a job that is fulfilling for you and that it serves your life purpose!??

I don't live in America, so I can't talk very much about it... But I find it interesting the way how the pandemic change the perception of their workforce, now having to work and study at home, they see that there are more opportunities than before(and with more flexibility) so that they feel no need to be attached to a job and a routine that doesn't suit their lifestyle anymore, and therefore becoming more picky... Am I right?... Honestly I don't know much about America's idiosyncrasies when it comes to work... that why I brought this topic, so that we can discuss about it!??

this video is very interesting. It shows the cultural clash between vMEME Blue Christianity and vMEME Purple ethnical minorities in the Region of Nigeria.

this is not a single video, but an entire playlist! ???

Joe Rogan is actually a very open minded vMEME Orange and vMEME Green, which made me think that he might be at Tier 2, but now I don't really think that way, because he is still very biased towards individual responsibility and freedom, and that became very clear to me when he brought Tristan Harris and Daniel Schmachtenberger on his podcast: they were trying to present a bigger picture on how to address the issue of misinformation on social media, from both an individual and a collective level, and at some point Joe Rogan got tired of discussing this "theoretical stuff " and wanted a quick fix solution on how can we, as individuals, can take the burden of not engaging nor spreading fake news on social media platforms.... I got very disappointed when I watched Joe Rogan endorsing and spreading misinformation about ivermectin... the same way I felt when Rebel Wisdom made a video about it...? But I still like his podcast and I still think it provides with a lot of good information, the problem is when people personalize too much these youtubers or talk show hosts to the point of believing everything they say or do....