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You can approach girls with headphones in. Worst things that's happened to me is she said after like 30 seconds, i'm gonna listen to this again. Blown out, move on. Regardless of this, your energy is going to determine how it goes, and if it is bad, they would have been annoyed by you anyway. If it is good they will be like its so nice to talk im so glad you stopped me! nothings shows balls like that. Of course if your game isnt great itll be a good reason for them to be upset. But then move on. Its retarded to worry about this if you havent field tested it and seen that everything will be okay if you do it. Approach them like you have a check with a million dollars with their name on it and you want them to stop and take off the headphones.

@Emotionalmosquito Ok you are actually a bit mislead. It isn't that great other than because you've been deprived. Like it is nothing like a samadhi. Sex is still a pretty normal experience and once you get your needs met you won't think of it as something you would do anything for.

It was good if you are going to watch one of his recent videos watch this one. Definetely worth. he actually touched on some deep spiritual topics, reminds me he isn't that shallow haha.

I am already decent with girls but I have a high sex drive, want to find an ideal match eventually, have an abundance of options, and am mostly interested in the personal growth, it's just like an ice bath. As of now I can go months without any luck just from not being exposed to new girls. Anyways, I've only done 20 approaches and I suck even though I am usually good with girls and am physically attractive and confident. I see a lot of people getting into pickup really struggle. Like Leo says it can take 1000 approaches, but he starts off his series directing it to incel introvert types. So, is the learning curve any different if I already have some skills, or is it going to take just as long to get good at the first part, hooking girls and gaining attraction instantly. Leo in another thread "If your looks are really good or you are highly extroverted then getting girls is much much easier." I am decently good at these but I still struggle to approach since it is such a new situation and my extroverted smily confident self fades away. Will it be easier to get that in game if i already have it when im not scared asf from cold approaching.

Yes how dare you be so interested in improving this part of your life.

Well said

Every concept of reality is parital. In this case, sounds like you've got a bit of a red pill hypergamy perspective, which is quite partial. While it might be helpful in some cases, reality simply is not as you concieve it. It is very complicate. There are other perspectives, like romantic love, finding someone who is a good fit. Not all women want the same thing. Those men certainly have something going for them in a lot of the scenarios.

now i dont know what a frame is please explain

Boyfriend provider versus player fun frame. There is no distinction between girls you want one or the other. Learn some classic toxic game. RSD tyler's recent livestreams cover this.

thinking about it, but there is so much free stuff, and i have yet to do over 20 appraoches. I think i need way more practice and have plenty of theory

Its like an ice bath. I recommend doing both, haha sometimes I can't tell if its harder to approach or to do an ice bath. But you will get over it and get used to and enjoy how the difficulty makes you grow.

I am interested in building the skillset, so I guess my question is whether or not I already have some of the skillset or if this is entirely new. Either way I am going to do 1000's of approaches. I can do 10 while going about my day. Would just be nice to know what to expect as far as physical results While I am interested in the personal growth, that can wait, sometimes you've gotta tap into your lower motivations and fill Maslow's hierarchy. What is the carryover if I get some results through social circle to cold approach. Do any of those skills carry over? Like I said, it seems to be that beyond a certain point of pickup the skills are the same. Like past the hook point do i just apply the same skillset I would use to sleep with a girl i met through social circle?

Sounds like you need to go out alone and make a fool of yourself. Don't make excuses that prevent you from learning. Also could do some daygame or just plain socializing to get socially calibrated. It's pretty inevitable to make a fool of yourself, find a place where it doesn't matter.

@Emotionalmosquito Yes it is the most amazing thing! especially when its your exact most desired scenario! I ask my friends male and female all the time if they feel the same, that nothing brings them near as much happiness as sex. It's nearly everything for me. Other than samadhi and deep trips that is haha. Anyways I have no special reasons, i just personally wouldnt want to be with a hooker, ask chat gpt why not and im sure you'd get some ideas. Being so deprived sounds horrible, so so horrible. I have been for months at a time which is a lot when you have a high drive. Hence the pickup. You need pickup even more. Do that before you pay for it.

You can approach when you're out with your friends bro. The point of going out is to socialize, all you're doing is being social and extroverted and meeting people. Maybe you ditch your friends if it goes well, but otherwise you go back and find them. Are they not supportive of you doing it even if they don't want to themselves? I go out with groups of mostly female friends and just have a good time. if there's a girl nearby i approach. Immediate social proof and quick & easy hook point. My friends think its cool because they wanna see me win and if i come across as creepy to others they know i was just not socially calibrated. And I just fucking started, I am not good.

I have automatonaphobia, you couldn't pay me to go near that thing hahaaa

Ok since everyone wants to know so bad. I found a girl recently who was into it. had a great time, both played both roles. It was amazing as I've always wanted to and it was so great that she was into it too. Plenty of people are into BDSM, not that uncommon and its not just men. Stay away from my balls though please, yikes. I hesitate to share details here but PM me at you two who were super interested in this. @Emotionalmosquito Anyways, can someone make an argument against it that isnt extremely conservative. I'm so confused why you guys are even on here. A non-moralistic argument please. How is this going to hurt my self actualization? I feel like there is nothing wrong with it and it is the most amazing thing. And if there is what do you suggest, that I repress my sexuality or something, read the bible? @Emotionalmosquito Don't be cheap. And also don't mess with hookers for any reason. This is one thing that inspires me to get into pickup more because with a high volume I will find girls that are more sexually compatible. And they exist, and they enjoy it too, you don't need to pay. And when you find one and you both really enjoy it it will be the best experience of your life haha.

had to read between the lines in the nootropics video haha. Coincidence im rewatching that video right now. Just reupped my sulbutiamine (personal favorite), alpha GPC, L theanine, and Stamets 7.

Im so confused, if this is out there, whats with this new program for the same price. Wow the marketing is funny. 6 year old video on that page, he says it will be up at 50% off for a day or two. 6 years have gone by.

Hey, I am going to this, dm me if you want to go with me haha. Anyways, also wondering what people think of these events in general. Very spontaneous for me but I feel like i don't have much to lose even if its not good. But I've been in a relationship since before i was 18 and now feel like i need to start cold approaching. I did for the first time 2 days ago and now have 6 times, its awesome.

Haha I figured. I used to believe them but after a few years of this it's obvious marketing. He is a convincing person. Very interesting thanks, I don't think it's worth the money to me. Do they have any clear dates of when the actual course will be released? But how do you get that haha.

https://owenslastgameprogram.com/ New course Kind of tempted, but its not even released yet.

@Miguel1 I wasnt there the first two days but I heard it started with around 60. There were around 40 at the beggining on Sunday, by 430 only 25, by 7am only 6

But I am such a noob, one week and 15 approaches in. I need to be making higher level errors before it makes sense to invest so heavily. I think it could make sense if I was stuck at an intermediate level. But even then, I feel like wings could help identify sticking points. Yea Leo I was thinking what you were about bootcamp not being neccesary. @numbersinarow I'm a pretty boy I'm sure thatll help @CARDOZZO awesome video idea It was interesting to see how RSD people would throw in references to pickup but they were very careful to make it not be a pickup thing. It's like they were worried someone snuck in who was going to expose them. It went until 430 am and im glad I stuck through because I met some great people from then until 7am.

The free tour was awesome. The lectures were actually suprisingly basic, even Owen's, although he is a great speaker. It went for 17 hours and he only talked for 2 of them. I met a dude who listens to leos videos, and someone with a nearly identical life purpose niche, which was pretty crazy. So overall it was great. I asked about bootcamp but for 4k i think it makes zero sense since im just starting. I met 3 local wings who were super cool in total, 2 of them very into spirituality in a deep way.