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@Aquarius Same reply goes for you

@Artaemis I've reached it. It's really really pleasant. Please see my other comments in this thread to elaborate.

@ZZZZ I guess it's just different qualities of flow. Not hyperfocus.

The worst feeling is getting in a flow creative state and when you're done, you realize that you weren't there at all. If you ain't conscious, you ain't living. What can I do? I mean if I were aware of the flow process it would be a much more profound experience, which would probably make better art.

@Aquarius Well my social media are blocked to 5 mins a day per app. What I meant is checking it as a reward for smth. Same goes for this forum, it's really useful but it's pleasant and relaxing. I can use it as a reward

@aurum I knew somebody would say this. What I actually meant : Say I want to be good at the flute. So there's a desire. What I mostly do with the flute is jam and compose. If I had a good actualiztion plan, I'd not count this time as improving, but pleasure. Improving would be scales/arp/tone/rhythm and practice od everything else...

@Nadosa I think that's 99% of experience for 90% of the population I'm wondering how to minimize this.

@Elisabeth I think the creativity is always there when you remove ego out of the play and just be pls dont say passion because that puts pressure on me. im just flowing. passion has an implication that it burns out. Considering higher quality... hmm... I assume ot will be. Ofc i have no idea.

@ZZZZ I wouldn't really know. Depends on the quality of the flow. A good meditation session can be a high quality flow, a flow where there is also an 'observer'. Doing a test is sunken consciousness, just like lmfao says.

@Pookie please don't tell that to psychiatrists hahaha! they're close-minded. and no talking about suicide/homicide with a therapist!

@winterknight The problem is that the psychoanalitic therapy here is limited to closed circles of the burgeois... Since you first need to finish college,then you need to go through therapy yourself first, which costs a lot, and pay for the course too, and go through training which costs as well, to become one. Nobody who is not burgeois would do it, because it's too much of an investment to have a not so big hourly rate compared to the investment - but the hourly rate is huge for our standards if you understand. So I'm a bit skeptical.

@ZZZZ @Anna1 Yes, but that flow state is a lower quality consciousness! Say you're doing a test - you're in the flow ofc. But we're you mindful even once? Not if under a time pressure... Maybe a few times. Have to focus on the task at hand! I guess by practice it can become an all-encompassing focus. Or the nature of attention is just to reduce everything and focus on the task at hand. What I actually want is to observe what's going on! I don't life just to go by without me being there. When I'm mindful and talking to a person, it's such a deeper experience so fulfilling and vibrant.

@Gabriel Antonio @Anna1 is then everybody who is 'in the moment' mindful??? I wouldn't say so. The experience can be really hazy and dreamlike, even though the person is in the moment. Like what happened to me today. I was there, studying, in the moment, but mindful only a few times...

@Anna1 In this context, when I say I, I mean observer. No observer, very dull dull conscious experience, that flow state. I guess there are many types, but it's nowhere near the conscious experience of say, meditating. Meditating can also be a flow experience and most frequently is if you get 'in the zone'. But there is something, an observer! In the flow I mentioned ablve, it's really dull.

@winterknight What do you think about other forms of therapy? Constructivism is the cheapest one here.

@Elisabeth I simply feel that my art in a few years time will be of a much higher quality (not craft-wise but content-wise). Same as comparing a 5 year old poem to a 12 year old to a 20 to a 40 year old (enlightened already lol) So I'm looking to focus more on the craft and later on the art... But 2 weeks ago i spontaneously wrote a poem, and then it snowballed.

@Rilles I think I'll thank myself more if I choose one area to master

@Rilles Oh hi Tommy I didn't know it was you

Would appreciate if you gave me advice, links on where to read up, etc. I think presentation skills are really important. I'm doing one at uni tomorrow.

@Sahil Pandit Well I never truly 'waste' time. But more of it goes in the path of less resistance. If I'm doing music, I'm composing (not arranging - which means only the raw pleasant easy part of songwriting) instead of idk, practicing scales. Infrastructure? I don't understand.

I'm having trouble implementing ideas from Leo's vids. I'm a college student so I hang out there and socialize. No strategy there... When I come home, that counts as free time, and then I can manage it well, even though it's not well organized, as in I can be so so much more productive /effective. How did you implement the ideas?

@Jack River @robdl @Jack River Thank you for the clarification! Sneaky devil hehe

I feel anger often. Tried inquiring - it's fear of accepting what is? Why are we angry?

@robdl But isn't then anger what is? I mean the experience we label as anger. But if we don't label it, if there is no thought, no I to be hurt/angry, do we ever experience that experience? this is what confuses me...

Thank you for all your answers! Precious insights. Anger is like a thorn, which I can't pull out. Of course one's going to be angry when you're fragile + clinging. Anybody can come and fuck you in the ass. Clinging to your arm? Hey this dude just your arm off. Now you can't play your music hehe. ANGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY BIRB hahahahahahah Everybody, wouldn't you be angry as fuck if some low life crippled you? That situation hits my core ego so hard. Would be really hard to surpass that - that somebody takes your life, basically, your and his life can't be measured in any fucking way, your potential, your enjoyment of life because of your personal development and tweaking of your own psychology, literally a different dimension. @Hellspeed and @Leo Gura How do you get over the hurt? Next time anger comes, what do I do? Just felt anger again because of fucking society with it's "a gram's better than a damn" pleasure-oriented instant gratification bullshit all around the fucking internet fucking retards. Yes it hurts. I ate civilization. It defiled me.