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@ShivaShakti Sure, distinctions are imaginary/relative. The nature of distinction is that every distinction is itself. That's what's absolute about it

Right I want to redirect the conversation to my original point though. Which is that Leo seems to be mistaking the exploration of the scope of relativity/infinity with infinity itself. That is, as Ralson says, infinity is not some "thing" which exists, it's not more and more. And I'm sure Leo is conscious of this. Also, Leo said in this last video that after having being done with this first infinity, the possibility of exploring a second "order" of infinity came up, and so a third, a fourth, and so on until infinity. But this is exactly what both Leo and Ralston say about reality: you can go on exploring it for as long as you can. But that's just within the relative. You can't get "more" than absolute. Because it's everything already Again, it may have to do with the way Leo's communicating

You can be conscious of that or not. Also, the distinction between something and nothing is imaginary. Nothing is what something is

@ShivaShakti But even then, you can become conscious of Nothing and that Nothing = infinity, and that's all it is to it. Once you start to ascribe properties to it, you confuse it for the absolute. Mistaking a relative quality for the absolute is where you can bullshit yourself, and it is not the same recognizing that absolute and relative are identical, or "seeing the absolute in the relative" [I edited this last sentence] Rather, those qualities can be seen as ways in which the two are identical. But again, "ways" / "facets" is relative - and may be contingent on the person who awakens The words we use are secondary, which I think is what's going on about the "love" matter. Maybe it didn't occur to Ralston to call it love, ever

Also at a certain point leo asks if we can use the same words for describing the nature of consciousness. so maybe their disagreement is just in words. Absolute love is the same as absolute truth, they are talking about the "same" absolute. after all they're just words

@ZZZZ I think you were referring to episode 27

I edited my post and added the link to Ralston's newsletter

Anything is potentially psychologically addictive. It doesn't need to be physically addictive to hook you

Yes exactly You can take that further until the candle actually becomes who the person that you are To me this sounds like a very very low intensity samadhi experience Samadhi can be shocking especially if you do concentration work while looking at another person and you actually become that other person And of you're curious, I interpreted that as a positive kind of shock, although that's just me

True. Despite this, they still need to somehow fit in with society. As long as most of society is stuck at tier one, some kind of accreditation will still benefit students when they are done with the formal courses (they can make something interesting where you can keep studying there even when you finally get a degree), even if it's not strictly necessary. Also, the culture around universities plays a big role, change needs to happen at its own pace. Getting psychedelics to the people you need will make for a great tool for developing key people (entrepreneurs, professors, politicians, celebrities, ...) up the spiral. Sure, this doesn't sound like your version of a turquoise university, which is pretty much the same as my version of turquoise. But it's a start.

This is something new. I didn't see anyone discussing it on this forum so I made this post to know what you guys think. So basically, Terence McKenna's brother has started this project of creating a University centered around Psychedelics and for "[exploring] modern and traditional practices, ideas and technologies that foster the understanding of nature, consciousness, the cosmos and their interweavings with humanity." It will have courses and degrees, but it will also incorporate ayahuasca retreats and therapy, all together in one place. Here are some links: https://mckenna.academy/ Also, Dennis has put some emphasis on the fact that even if his university doesn't work, what matters to him is that now people have a great vision and model to replicate. I see it as an opportunity to catalyze the transformation of science, society, and education, and this seems to be a great time for cultural change. But maybe I'm wrong. Perhaps the world isn't ready yet. What do you think?

That was so good. Brought me to tears

An example of recurrence in mathematics: a Fibonacci number f is defined in terms of itself, that is, as the sum of the two Fibonacci numbers that precede f

@Leo Gura It's true that most of the country is not ready for a solid stage green, but at the same time Biden's victory may lead to policies that reinforce stage orange, hence slowing down development, whereas Bernie would massively help a large chunk of the population reach stage green. That would accelerate the entire process, although I don't expect him to win after everything that's happened in the last three or so days.

@ElenaO @sausagehead Leo posted it on the blog

This movie is the epitome of strange loops. I wonder how no one has cited it yet By the end your mind will be completely blown

Agreed

Thanks for the post. It's been a useful read

Lovely. Thanks

I found many valuable lessons in Peter Ralston's work

@Not me Yeah, check out Mark Manson's "Models", I strongly recommend it.

@tsuki could you briefly explain your notion of synchronicity? Because it sounds a bit unfamiliar to me, and I'd like to get some perspective on it

@CreamCat would you please share your summaries with us on the forum?

1. Joined the self-actualization path, and (more recently) becoming patient with the process 2. Stopped playing videogames 3. Stopped worrying and caring so much about petty matters 4. Started taking action and breaking out of my comfort zone 5. Decided to organize my life and commonplace book in a functional way - if I hadn't done that I would be completely lost now It ain't much, but it changed a lot

@AncestorOfAisle6 I recommend you take a look at this article by Mark Manson. Also, I think his content is very good in general https://markmanson.net/why-you-procrastinate It's funny because I'm currently contemplating procrastination and it's relationships with fear, pain, and resistance. You can do this yourself, and I'm learning a lot. I also suggest you look deeply into Peter Ralston's work. For instance, in the book of not knowing you find a chapter about emotions. There is a section dedicated to fear that you could spend a lot of time on. If you're into contemplation, you should read Consciousness Dialogues and Reflections on Being. One thing that I noticed is that when you're procrastinating you're creating pain and at the same time you're creating resistance. I'm still investigating these mechanics, but you can isolate those in you're experience and realize, to some degree, that you're doing them and then, sort of stop doing them by letting them go (which requires some training and experimentation). So one way to stop procrastinating is changing your relationship to pain and resistance. In Consciousness Dialogues Question 3 you find something about this Other resources I recommend are John Vervaeke's series on Cognitive Science, where he talks about insight, identity, perspectival and participatory knowing (one way to understand the importance of direct experience), among other things. Finally, I recommend having an organized life overall.