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There is enlightenment work, vibrational work, and shadow work, as far as I can tell. If you don't know how to do all 3 of these things on your own then you should probably stay connected to spiritual circles like this. If you have access to Big Mind, then your growth should play itself out very naturally. And I would argue if you have been doing your vibrational work, then you needn't even worry about shadow work or enlightenment, because they are natural byproducts of raising your vibration. Achieving Dharmamega Samadhi would be extremely useful in your path though. Don't forget that once the forum is no longer useful for your own growth, you can also come to help others and give back.

I think it's likely that all people who have OCD also have the personality trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP). I imagine that it's very likely that being HSP is the leading cause of OCD, because you care so deeply about everything. You obsess because you want to make sure you and everyone is ok, at least on the deepest level, even if you aren't aware of it. For anyone who thinks they are possibly highly sensitive, or have OCD, it could be enlightening to watch the documentary Sensitive: The Untold Story. It's on Gaia if you have a membership, definitely worth checking out.

Most mental illness, and all mental illness that isn't related to the physical structure of the brain, is created through egoic association and egoic tendencies. It's likely through personal development you've combined the raising of your vibration with meditation that has led to a partial surrendering of control. When the ego surrenders it's control completely, the need to decide what happens, that's when mental illness falls away. Mental illness unrelated to physical abnormalities is simply the ego doing what the ego does, repeating neurotic behavior. Simply put, you need to enter Dharmamega Samadhi to completely dissolve mental illness. When you rest at the point right before egoic thought arises, that perfect stillness, then you have essentially prevented the ego from even having the opportunity to create mental illness. I previously had 4 major mental illnesses, one of which being OCD. My illnesses also lessened in intensity as I progressed spiritually, but it never ended until I reached Dharmamega Samadhi. You can also regress out of Dharmamega, even out of Samadhi completely, and if you do the illness will arise again. But the more you rest in a particular Samadhi, the easier it becomes to maintain it, and to get back to it if you regress out of it. Really the first goal is to enter Nirvikalpa Samadhi during do nothing meditation, you can start with meditation on the breath, but it will take longer. Dedicate a few weekends, with several hours a day each to do nothing meditation, and it's likely you'll enter Nirvikalpa Samadhi. From there, the goal is to maintain Nirvikalpa off of the cushion. You'll do that by dedicating more weekends to just resting in Nirvikalpa, because remember, states of Samadhi become easier to maintain the more you rest in them. If you remain dedicated like this, only for a few weekends most likely, you will be able to maintain Sahaja Samadhi, which is just Nirvikalpa experienced during your day to day life. This will happen naturally. Once you're in Sahaja Samadhi, you are only one step away from Dharmamega Samadhi. There is only one major difference between the two. In Sahaja, you still have the desire to control the ego, the last resistance that ego still has. You simply have to completely surrender from here, accept what is, completely. That means don't fight anymore, stop trying to get somewhere. Find that point, that space, that lies right before every thought. When you've reached that point, ego has surrendered control, and you're now in Dharmamega Samadhi. Reaching Dharmamega doesn't have to take years. Following those exact instructions, only using your weekends for extended sitting, you can reach Dharmamega, the releasing of egoic mental illness, in just a few months. It's important to note that you will still need to meditate for 30 minutes to 1 hour daily to maintain your progress during the weekdays. This applies even after reaching Dharmamega, just think of it as spiritual maintenance. Also, the higher your vibration, the easier this will all come to you. So simultaneously work on increasing your vibration while also doing your meditation for the best results. If you have any questions just message me, but try not to overcomplicate things or you'll just make it harder on yourself.

Just don't resist your nature, that's the opposite of growth, and more importantly the opposite of love. If judging is a natural urge, don't fight it. I wouldn't resist any urge except ones that posed serious threats to the safety of others or myself. And in those extreme scenarios I would immediately seek professional help. The better approach is to elevate your vibration/stage to a point where you simply recognize through direct experience the appropriate stance to take on matters such as this. Then you are going with your natural tendency to change instead of forcing a change.

Your mind feels like that would be resistance because it would be, which is likely more unhealthy than the original thought. You are having low vibrational thoughts because you are operating in a low vibration. When you elevate your vibration to a higher stage, you will begin to have less and less of these lower vibrational thoughts. This is what is happening when someone moves from different stages of SD. It's why a Blue thinks/behaves differently than a Green, and a Green thinks/behaves differently than a Yellow. They are operating within a certain vibrational range that leads to predictable behaviors. The makers of SD and Ken Wilber noticed these shifts in behavior due to one's current vibration and created a model to help people navigate these shifts with some direction. The real question you should be asking is how do I raise my vibration, and in turn raise into a new stage, where such thoughts/behavior simply dont exist? Send me a message if you want clear, non-obscure instructions on how to do that.

Greed is an attachment to having money for selfish reasons. Being attached to having money is different than having money or doing what needs to be done to have it. You let go of egoic attachments by raising your vibration, which will cause these lower vibrational attachments to dissipate from your life. There is no other way that is also healthy, because if you resist the urge to be greedy then you are in resistance, which is just as bad if not worse than the original attachment. If you are open to raising your vibration then message me for an easy solution.

I understand you now.

You're projecting on to me, I have no attachments or egoic desires. I allow Truth to flow through me, nothing more.

Avoiding responsibility was the whole tone of your first message. You realized something was wrong in your interactions and you posted here to get insight into why. Now you're avoiding your avoidance, and this will only hurt yourself. "People are just constantly becoming angry with me. Is it because they think I'm questioning their knowledge? They are taking it personal? Like I'm attacking them? I'm not by the way." I'm happy that you've recognized the fault in your approach. I'm sure the quality of your life and the lives of the people you interact with will improve.

There's no such thing as unconditional hate.

The idea of Maya itself is the true illusion. It's archaic ideology used to manipulate you into thinking the Absolute Void is what you should strive for. The Absolute Void is pure, unconditional love, in umanifiested form. The Relative, the world we live in, what is incorrectly referred as an illusion, is where that love is given an opportunity to express itself. Do you think it's a coincidence that it hurts in increasing intensity when you resist what is? Resistance is the opposite of love, it's the opposite of your true nature. This life, the Relative, is the most beautiful, important, meaningful, real existence you will ever know. Has life ever suggested to you otherwise? Insight, healing, growth, connection, this is the Truth you've been searching for. That is Absolute love manifested in the Relative, it's pure unconditional love. The demonization of this existence is one of the biggest blunders in humanity's spiritual development, that we're still recovering from. When we should be encouraging people to be radically authentic, being completely honest with themselves, we instead tell them to suppress the way they feel at the deepest depths of their soul. It breaks my heart seeing people torture themselves because of the dogma of men who lived thousands of years ago. If you completely surrender to love, to unbridled honesty, to authenticity, experiencing the Absolute Void will come effortlessly. Then you can start rapidly spiraling up into a spiritual life you never could've even dreamed of. Let love carry you, it's been waiting to catch you your entire life.

I didn't say the Absolute was peace or bliss, if anything it's the complete opposite. It's love, pure unconditional love.

Agree to disagree.

Just nondual dogma that doesn't really help lead anyone to anything, other than back to millennia old beliefs. Once you get further down the spiritual path, if you open up enough to love, you'll burst into tears for not seeing things with more clarity sooner. The true nature of existence is so magnificent, so important, so grand, that even just witnessing a slice of that Truth for a moment is enough to make the most jaded man weep like a child. This is what Sadhguru is referring to when he talks about having tears of love and ecstasy, and everyone around him having the same tears being the greatest gift he could ever ask for in his life. The true nature of the Relative only starts revealing itself when you've begun to surrender egoic attachment to Absolute Truth. Absolute Truth is what people have always been told leads to the dissolution of the ego. That's why it seems so counterintuitive and paradoxical that clinging to ideology around it is egoic. It's only one step in a much longer journey, that's the whole reason the spiritual traditions of yesterday are so outdated. Jesus was the only one who had a clue, embracing his humanity with his Divinity. But his message has been so distorted and manipulated over the years that almost no Christians even realize he was enlightened, or have any understanding of what enlightenment is. Not to mention what lies beyond enlightenment! The Gnostic Texts is a good example of what was intentionally left out of his message to suit more egoic agendas. Christians are so disconnected from the important of Jesus that they would crucify someone with his exact qualities who went on the news today. They would write him off as a psychotic hippy speaking blasphemy by claiming a connection to God. It's extremely unfortunate that the unconditional love he shared didn't permeate further into the world. That unconditional love is what existence is about. The Absolute Void is pure, infinite love. The Relative is the realm where God, where love, where you, have chosen to express itself. But you've confused being shown where love comes from with what you should care or not care about. But the only point of showing you Absolute Truth is to better equip you to radiate that Truth without hesitation. Because you know where intuition comes from, you know this isn't all just some coincidence. If you've seen Absolute Truth you know there is a power at work that is beyond intellectual understanding. Pushing us towards unity, wholeness, and greater degrees of love. Ken Wilber and Andrew Cohen describe the mechanism of love very eloquently here. Importance is the driver of love, otherwise nothing would go in any direction. Evolution is love.

We stand on the shoulders of giants, but that means we stand taller than them. Divine pride is a good thing.

I really appreciate you both being open minded enough to receive this information. This degree of Truth is very difficult to convey and lies at the bleeding edge of spirituality on Earth.

Don't listen to this, it's an extremely unhealthy view. You don't want to lie because you know in your heart it's not right, it doesn't resonate with you at all. You've clearly seen what lying leads to. It leads away from spiritual growth, not towards it. Only lie if it is to save someone from undeserved harm, this is a lie for the highest good of all involved. When we're being completely honest, with both ourselves and others, that's called being authentic. It's what love actually is. When you finally surrender to complete honesty, to the reality that you aren't in control, the world opens a path right in front of you to a life you could've never dreamed of. People say enlightenment is so simple, but this is even more simple than that, and this is usually done after enlightenment, and still even rarely then. You might think the world is going to turn on you if you open up and become completely vulnerable, but it's the complete opposite. The universe quickly removes what doesn't serve you're highest good, and fills your life with everything you need for exponential spiritual growth. This isn't just some feel good saying, this how the existence we're in actually functions. It's a mechanism built into reality to encourage evolution. But people are so terrified of being themselves that they never even try to see what would happen if they were honest for once in their life.

Referring to this sort of explanation of the Absolute Truth, nonduality, and it having more importance than Relative Truth. "Dualistically I agree, of course, but it doesn’t appear you are speaking about duality. You are referencing absolute truth, that all is one, and then conflating it with duality: individuality, purpose, moving beyond, importance, “levels”, duality of existence and not, and God “dealing” in perfection. Individuality does not exist, that is duality, illusion. There would need to be two for there to be uniqueness / individuality. Nothing “exists”, and Nothing does not “exist”. If you can move “beyond” absolute truth, then it is not absolute, and was not the Truth. “Enlightenment is the beginning”, is reference to the illusion. In Truth, there is no beginning, and no illusion." If this doesn't clarify what I'm referring to, one good example is the use of the word illusion to describe the Relative. The Relative is as real as the Absolute, and starting off with terminology that suggest otherwise leads people towards nondual dogma and spiritual stagnation. The Relative is the most beautiful, important, sacred form of existence we will ever have. Some refer to the Relative as a video game, but it's the complete opposite of a game. It's the realest thing we'll ever experience. Individuality ties into this because it does exist, it exists on the deepest levels of existence. The further we get down the spiritual path the more important it is to recognize this if we want to bask in our true nature. If we embraced radical authenticity from the start, we could skip a lot of unnecessary growing pains. It's incorrect that we can't regress down stages in SD, and this becomes very obvious when transitioning from Turquoise to Coral. Children are born in Coral. They are born completely authentic, expressing Divinity with ease. It's why people wish to be children again when they grow up. But when someone is several stages above everyone surrounding them, including the people who control their lives, they regress to the stages their society is at, or worse. Social conditioning beats authenticity out of children. And instead of recognizing this phenomenon, and trying to correct course back to our true nature, we've come up with all of these distortions that keep us away from Truth. This is all to say how important individuality really is, it's where we should be building our spiritual practice from, not moving away from. It's crucial for humanity to have people who recognize the flaws made in even our most advanced spiritual traditions, so that we can start correcting for the future generations to come. The amount of resistance or complete lack of interest such mentions of Truth receive even in spiritual circles, should highlight the severity of egoic dogma that needs to be overcome.

It makes me happy to know you feel the same way. I do want to clarify though, that there is significant differences in the way we're speaking about the needed move towards surrender and love. The focus on nonduality that has been going on for 2000 to 3000 years has inhibited the elevation of human consciousness. It's important to have a more integral approach to Truth, if we want to accelerate the spiritual growth that this world so desperately needs. I hope you understand what I mean. I do appreciate your dedication to love regardless.

Do you honestly not desire to not suffer? I did get offended, and I apologize for that. But I wasn't offended at the nonacceptance of a personal truth, only Divine Truth. Still, I shouldn't have been offended, I still have a few energetic blockages to release.

This is something different than sexual attraction. You're talking about unconditional love. You'd be recognizing her innate beauty, which is something different than sexual attractiveness. There are several levels you can connect with someone, but to have sex with someone you aren't sexually attracted to is inauthentic. Explore the other avenues of connection with that person. If you love them unconditionally, you'll likely find that happens effortlessly. That is unless you have severe psychological issues that need to be addressed first.

I suggest using the diffuser when studying, the mist needs to enter your nose, preferably underneath your head. Just a few minutes is enough. A couple times a day would be ideal. Immune system strengthening, developing discipline, facing fears, different things. I don't take them, I take advantage of warm showers as an easy stress management tool. But it's certainly healthy for you if you want to take on the extra stress.

You're very close. Growth and healing is impossible without suffering. Attachment causes unneeded suffering like you said, but there are other forms of suffering that are simply unavoidable. Certain emotions are suffering, and to live optimally, to grow, they need to be felt fully. And the more advanced you become spiritually, when attachment is no longer an issue, you actually suffer more, not less. Your empathy and unconditional love increase, which causes very intense suffering, because there is much in this world ready to break an open heart. I've referred to this a few times today, but it's just filled with so much Truth that it touches on so many different aspects of life. Note: Where he touches on Buddha finding a way out of suffering is incorrect, Buddha simply stopped seeking Truth after realizing Absolute Truth. He still suffered, he just chose not to increase his suffering through further spiritual development. That point he decided to stop at is the least amount of suffering a human can experience. Which interestingly means he still had egoic desire, the desire to not suffer.

"Though we may live in a relative, conditioned and disharmonious world if we are to be liberated from self suffering then cessation of self suffering is a condition and circumstance of our inner life." You saying 'if we are to be liberated', implies a desire to be liberated from suffering. Maybe you should reflect on being honest with yourself, authenticity. I'm beyond egoic desire, so deflect the lessons you need to learn elsewhere. Someone loves you so they make the effort to show you Truth, and instead of opening up you push them away with more egoic masturbation.

The Truth is people become heavily annoyed with you because you are annoying. It happening with many people you interact with makes this even more clear. You're also overly skeptical, in an unhealthy way. What good comes out of questioning things like this even for yourself, not to mention everyone you interact with? If you realize there isnt truth being portrayed in the media, simply stop watching it. If someone brings up something from the news, it's because they want to talk to you. It means they care enough about you to want to connect with you. And what are you doing when they reach out? You're slapping their hand away, trying to force your skepticism on them. Indulge them since they're not looking for a debate. Show that you care in a way they understand. You've also been jumping through hoops avoiding responsibility for the way you affect others. When the outcome is everyone else's fault, you've completely denied yourself the chance to grow.