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I went through a stage where I couldn't contain my desire to share my insights, I think this is a stage many go through. The "I'm a special spiritual person" stage. If there is no other, who are you sharing the insight "there is no other" with? Our whole life and belief system unravels when we have an awakening, so the only "real" thing left for the ego to hold onto is whatever that was. The awakening itself can be seen to be just as imaginary as everything else we used to hold onto. What we long for the most, but also fear the most is to just be, without grasping at past or future events as descriptions of what is. What is, is unknowable, you do not know it more than the next guy. Most on this forum a fast asleep but convinced they know everything there is to know.

I once had an extremely clear insight at work relating to this. I sat eating my lunch and looked at the clock on the wall. Suddenly it was clear as day that time didn't exist. The clock hands were still moving but it was extremely obvious that there was no time.

The absolute truth is that there is no truth, and that leaves you nowhere. What this points to is the end of that contracted reality. It is the end of the safety of knowing what you are and what this is. It is not what that contracted individual wants, but it is what is longed for. Why can't we imagine what we truly long for? Because we don't know what we truly long for. What was truly longed for was life without "me." It is not an idea or a beautiful experience, it is literally what is, and it doesn't care if you like it or not.

It has no value. It is nothing, as you said... This. Who gives a fuck? It doesn't change anything, it's never been anything else. There is just words, spirituality is a joke, the talk going around on here revealed to be totally meaningless. Everything empty, total equilibrium. Amazing.

Everything is a miracle.

@Inliytened1 @ivankiss spiritual cops ?‍♂️?

Preach?? Chaos appearing ordered. Amazing

Yes sir. Incoming "now what" question. :P.. The problem with these insights is that the "ego" comes back and gives them value. That insight has no value, it is neither a joke or serious. For the "me" it feels groundless and disorienting after such an awakening, it will grasp for ground but grasping for ground is now hopeless. What is left is ????. Untill that dies. Nothing will be left to grasp for, every attempt to go beyond "what is" will be fatigued, and then... Nothing. No where to go, nothing in need to be understood, or resolved. Voila, "Understood the joke" achievement is now unlocked ?.

That is solipsism and a misunderstanding. The human @Thought Art is not the only real person that exists and everyone else are imaginary, no. @Thought Art is imaginary as well. What is pointed to is that there is only 1 existence, there is only one infinite whole. There isn't even 1 existence, because that is a conceptual and dualistic way of putting it. This is the play of God, and in the play of God an apparent separated and limited experience can happen. From that experience is where every teaching or message about this arises, like an alarm clock in the dream. This Is already heaven, the thing that keeps you from recognizing that is you. THIS is it, THIS is infinite and absolute beyond human comprehension, THIS is the kingdom of God.

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Loved the vid. The only thing I don't particularly like is when Leo insist/assumes that the listener doesn't understand what he is saying. "I understand that, but you don't understand that yet" is true if "you" is directed to a limited ego mind and "I" is let's say "God." God understands that the limited human being doesn't understand that, but what I am able to do is to switch between the consciousness of God and the limited human mind. It is like the voice of God exists in 2 different domains and gives to different meanings based on what "dimension" you're in. When God awakens everything awakens, when God sleeps or dreams everything dreams. That is why escaping the dream is impossible, because the dream can not be ascended using dream tools and that is all you have in the dream. It is sort of a quantum leap that happens effortlessly.

Wanting to be aware of the "how" is the desire to understand. You're already it right now, there is no need for it to be understood. The need to understand it comes from an illusion that says that you are seperate from it. Reality just is, it doesn't care if there is someone there looking for the "how" or not, it doesn't change anything. Nothing needs to happen, your free to be whatever you wanna be, G.

Those are all thoughts that arises from repressed feeling. Try to sit or lie down and just feel. When you do this a thousand of thoughts will appear, don't push them away, just keep focusing on the feeling. You might not feel something to begin with, but the longer you sit the more intense the feeling will get. You will want to distract yourself to get away from this feeling, but just keep staying with it. Sitting with a feeling like this for a long time will actually transform the unbearable feeling into a whole and warm sensation throughout your body. Most of the thoughts around the feeling will be recognized to be just thoughts, and not true. Do this for as long as necessary, but remember that the purpose of the "exercise" isn't to get rid of the feeling, it is too actually want to let the feeling BE. Treat the feeling as if it has every right to stay as long as it wants and leave when it wants.

@Leo Gura I would have no chance of knowing what you were talking about if not I had awakened to the same truth myself. From the perspective of "absolute truth" there is no person trying to teach another person something. There is just infinity being infinity describing infinity to infinity through a human body. Finding an awakened interviewer is where things could get real fun. A conversation like this one:

Enjoying it right now. Got real lovely at 50 min mark, really resonated. Leo has a beautiful mind that is able to express this in a very detailed way. I enjoy the 50 min mark because this is where Leo is really no more and a pure expression of "this" shines through and resonates beautifully.

There is no "how to." Just effortless imagination. The hand does not need to be understood, the hand is just infinity appearing as a hand. I don't get the fuss? It is so simple. There has to be an imagined separate self to be baffled and to appreciate it, but the full scope of it all is THIS, already, and that can not be realized by a separate self. That is why the separate self is on a continuous never-ending journey. This appearance is the highest form of love: unconditional Love, but the separate individual is blind to it because it is on a journey within the story surrounding the appearance, which creates time and makes this seem real and "dead."

Yea finding a real friend is rare. I don't have one either right now, I have friends but they're casual buddies I chill with every once in a while. I guess for most people their best bet at getting a real friend is their significant other, and yet that is usually also a temporary thing. You do hear stories of old couples that were best friends their whole life. Reminds me of the movie UP.

I find it hard to define. It all comes down to connection and like mindedness I guess.

Don't bother, you're better off without this person. I know it is hard to lose a friend you've known for many years, but you're better off not having a vampire around draining your energy.

I don't think that, but you're kind of describing the way you view the world and other people, and I'm challenging that. We could go "deeper" but I'm kind of meeting you on your level. I'm challenging the concepts you build around what you notice. You notice energy and social cues, but the context of that energy is totally a story. You're not a solid self, there is no real you. When "I" am solidified, I see many solid self's.

This is what I mean. Most people would not pride themselves on this ability, I'm pretty sure most have this ability actually. You can notice symptoms of trauma, but don't be so ignorant to put that person into a box and define them by it. That is what makes people like this unbearable to be around, they give you no space to expand, let go and move on because they are constantly projecting their idea of you onto you. Every move you make, if you show a little awkwardness or shakiness, this person will instantly notice and focus and define you by that energetic movement. This really comes from an insecurity, which is the need to know and put something into a box to control it and asses your own worth compared to it. What behavior?

Not sure what you mean about calling you names and acting like savages? When I say grandiose I'm referring to the claims you made about being aware of others experience and "level" compared to yourself. To me you sound like a guy I know that is certain that he can read people better than they can read themselves. People like this are very intrusive, judgmental, In need of control and analytical. They are certain that they know so much about you, but really, they don't know anything. It is the type of person that prides themselves on how far ahead and more clever they are than others, but really they're mostly caught up in their own projections and illusions of grandeur. Despite these traits, this person can still be fun to hang out with, but any real connection or friendship? Forget about it, this person is way too selfish and judgmental. This is of course a projection of my own based on what you wrote. You might not be like that, but I like to act like an equalizer myself, when people show a heightened sense of self-importance.

All I see is a insecure sense of self replaced by a grandiose sense of self. Maybe you should "EQ" some of those high frequencies to balance out the mix a bit. You don't totally cut out the lower frequencies to assensuate the highs. The highs alone are unbearable and annoying, but with the right mix they bring great clarity and depth. The lower frequencies are muddy and unbearable alone, but with the right balance they bring groundedness, humility and relatability. This analogy was a stretch, you get the point.

Stop.