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@Mikael89 @Ether Oh man, you guys have no idea. Enlightenment is seeing stillness in ceaseless movement. To let go of 'I' is to get rid of the barrier that prevents the movement. It simply moves. By itself. Precisely because there is nobody to benefit from it. Infinite meaning in pure nothingness.

@deci belle Is there a difference between the term described as: going unnoticed, no one noticing , 'I am not the person' and simply not relating stealing potential to attain benefit/avoid losses? One cannot steal potential to gain something, as one steals it by discarding himself. There is no-one to gain anything and that's the point in my understanding. This part throws me off. In the first paragraph, you stress that there is no reason for going either way. Later however, you seem to point towards redirecting this saved energy towards self-refinement. What is the counterbalance for self-refinement for 'ordinary people' if there is no difference between going either way? Is it simply that enlightened beings consciously direct energy towards 'growing up' and circumstances change by themselves in response? Ordinary people direct energy towards changing circumstances and 'grow up' in response to them. Again: what is the difference between refinement and gratification from the point of view of spiritual alchemy? I'm still learning the language you express enlightenment in. We may misunderstand each other. My path manifested enlightenment firstly as the never-ending shift of perspective. I think that you refer to it as fire. This fire is sustained by effortless observation of symmetries of everyday situations. That one counterpart of a symmetry can be turned on itself to produce the other. This itself is such a violation of rules for 'ordinary people' that obvious solutions to everyday problems are unthinkable for them. Today I understood that one can 'sustain' fire as the never-ending breaking of rules only by perpetually 'burning' oneself. To be the fuel. To willingly die, to forget everything. That nothing matters anymore. This can be interpreted as only working with not-knowing by doing no one noticing of the shift of perspective. By not trying to change perspective to gain something. Then, this change is indistinguishable from seeing. You just know that it was the perfect moment. This shift of perspective in ordinary people is when they play the trick on themselves. They are reborn. To see the fire is to become its fuel. Is there any relationship with any of this to your spiritual practice?

@Maycol You are welcome friend.

@Applejuice Remember that this is the game of courage, not of fear. When you start to fear to lose this, it is precisely the moment to cast it away so thoroughly, that you even cast away hope that it will come back. It is to be cast away so deeply that you may never get it back. To return to your own self. If you try to grasp it and make it stick with you - you will lose it. This is the game of contradiction and paradox. Learn that it has no rules. It is only audacity that will get you there. Great sharing. Godspeed!

God, this is so beautiful! Thank you @cetus56!

@Faceless Great video! I really enjoyed it. If you don't play life, life will toy with you. It will always seem like there are problems to solve. The great hoax is that you are the one that introduces them by trying to fix things! You fix one thing and the other breaks precisely because of what you did. Unless you can find solace in your deficiencies, the world will always seem hostile by taking things away from you!

A subtle hint that in order to resist, you need to surrender to resistance.

@Muwuwei90 To be compassionate towards others is to suffer for their ignorance. If you were compassionate towards yourself, you would remain ignorant of other people's suffering. You have a gift of seeing other people's auras. Give yourself a gift of closing your eyes. It is sometimes easy to mistake others hurting themselves for hurting you when you become blind to your own pain.

Beautiful. You can only witness the dance when you stop dancing. You can only kill your enemy by making friends with him. You can only do that when you see them as one. When there is no you to make peace or fight. Only then your friend can dance with your enemy in communion. When there is no you. There's only dance.

@Charlotte I always liked to find solace in mother nature. She is a harsh, but loving mistress. The love of mother nature to you is unconditional through its divine, eternal and ever-present indifference. She loves you as much as any other rock and treats your problems equally. To see yourself as a rock is to get rid of all problems at once. Then, the only problem that's left is: I don't want to be a rock! I want to be important! I want to change the world! Then - we return home, reconnected. The real game changer is to see that cities are divinely natural by their indifference. Don't we run away from cities because we feel insignificant? To connect with our nature? Cities express their love to you in the same way that mother nature does. To them, you are just a brick. Isn't that the greatest problem? To be one with one's own nature is to see that our nature is to change. Not to fix or break. Mother nature does not fix you, nor breaks you, when you are born, or when you die. To break you means to feed a bear. To her, it is simply a change. To her, you are a rock. A bear is a rock. A wolf is a rock. She loves everything equally

Accept that both opposite halves of your personality have their respective roles to play. You can only dismiss your rabid half by pretending it's not there. There is no 'nice' way to pretend that somebody is not there. This 'ignoring' is not something the 'nice' does. It is the rabid turning on itself. This is why you feel regret and all of the 'bad' emotions. Anger, fear, regrets belong to rabidness. If you were to respect your rabidness though... you may find it useful if you let it express itself. Love your rabid personality so that you do not fear fear. Would you explain to a bear that you are not tasty? What if you treat other people as bears because you do not know what true, real, rabidness is? Simply because you haven't learned to use it? We really don't live among rabid people, so your rabidness could relax a little if it could only stop watching itself and could simply watch out.

@Moreira Try having conversations with yourself when you are alone. Whisper, or talk out loud. Talk as if you were talking to another person and listen as the same time. Take turns. Give advice to yourself. Comfort yourself. Get angry at yourself if you must. Be honest. There's nobody to judge. The key is to honestly play both roles. To forget that you are playing. Listen as if you were listening to another person. Talk as if you were talking to another person. See if you call yourself names. Would you call other people names in this situation? When you become comfortable, try mediating between the two of you. Try to understand your 'broken' half. It may very well turn out that your 'broken' half is resentful towards you 'good' half. Listen to him honestly. Try to have a relationship with yourself. It is the most important relationship in your life. No matter where you go, no matter who you meet - you will be there too! Love yourself.

@Nahm Thank you. @deci belle I think that we understand each other. Attention is born out of inattentive inattention. One needs to forget that one forgot. Trying to fully clarify this self-referential phenomenon is an endless source of creativity. We would write these posts endlessly. This is why I prefer to wrap my words onto themselves to express this. Please treat my other two posts as a sorry attempt to summarize my understanding. I cannot help to feel that this endless, selfless observation is just a karmic creation in the intellectual dimension. That we are doing things for no reason and try to understand them. Or that we have ideas for no reason and try to implement them. Over and over and over...

Playing is pointless, but there is fun. Using is problematic, but there are solutions. Solving problems is the greatest fun. Pointless fun is the greatest problem. Reality is perfect.

When you play to win, there is no reward. When playing is rewarding, there is no you to win. No rewards means no losses. No you means no suffering. You are being a playful being.

@Shakazulu Why don't you pressure yourself into being your own companion that would fill the emptiness of travel? Or even better: to stop altogether and love what is right now? Wouldn't it be the greatest result? Love yourself.

@Shakazulu Only if you love to chase your own tail. You always progress towards death. Is this place worse than death? Why do you seek to escape it?

Is there a single human being that become self-actualized from spirituality? Enlightenment is a spiritual concept. We know this because we know both paths thanks to @Leo Gura. @Faceless Exactly.

@electroBeam Nothing. Spirituality and self-actualization are the same drive from two different perspectives. To choose self-actualization is to try to conquer the world. To choose spirituality is to try to conquer yourself. The point is to see how conquering the world makes you conquer yourself and vice versa. To see this is to realize that you are the world and to become enlightened. Method of arriving at this realization is through chasing your own tail. You chase your needs and wants and try to justify them via rational mind. You suffer because you feel empty to the point of asking 'who even am I?'. You see no end to this and you cannot justify this journey through any means you have. You feel exhausted, broken and beaten down. And then, there's death. You realize that all of this is the mechanism that makes you forget that you need to breathe and blink.

Who is to say that you are growing or recessing? Is it you or is it me? What is the difference?

Everything is always 'here' in the same sense that everything is always 'now'. There is no 'there', just as there is no 'then' when you read this text. This text is always 'here' and 'now'.

You're welcome. I may share the other two at some point. For now, I can't see them clearly and formulations seem shallow. It may take some time, as they formed one big blob.

@deci belle I think that I'm starting to see the link between our understanding of reality. This selflessness is a very subtle word you use. It is linked to my understanding of this topic by inattention. Inattention is the always-present ability to discard one's incarnate answers to life. By incarnate answers I do not mean the wording of the result of asking 'Who am I?' as in 'I am tsuki'. Asking the question 'Who am I?' is an incarnate answer itself by stating that 'I am the-thing-that-does-not-know-what-it-is'. Any other answer to it is only possible by inattentive abandonment of the puzzlement of asking. I understand selflessness as direct experience, seeing (in your sense), of the interplay of attention and inattention in everyday, ordinary events. We are as much what we forget, as we are what we remember. Can you see what I mean? I'm having difficulty seeing how one does not go along with creation when he simply 'keeps going'. Is stealing potential related to the ability to avert attention from the possibility of inattention? By not ceasing movement, not allowing 'breaks', when the opportunity presents itself? Not going along with creation of cessation in iTommy's case? How does that relate to stealing, potential, and energy? I can see how effort ceases when one is selfless. Is stealing potential by not going with creation the source of energy to fuel effortlessness? Do you effortlessly steal potential to gain energy that ceases effort? I can see that. Great that we meet in this understanding. This is exciting! Meditation in my understanding is a repeated exposure to selflessness. When one applies effort to empty one's mind, one misses the fact that the reason for application of effort appeared effortlessly. I like refer to this as: self-awareness is not self-aware. There are many different forms of this self-reference that express this. Can you expand the notion of golden flower of enlightning more? Is this a poetic description of this magic? Inconceivability? An attempt to mass-produce enlightened beings is a very dangerous endeavor. It is much more advisable to work on our own enlightenment and see the world flower by itself. Are you also aware of the balance between the 'inner' and the 'outer'? That the inner is in fact the outer? That instead of changing the world, one can change himself and watch the world change on its own? That learning this balance is fundamental? Does this have any significance in your spiritual practice? The part about "I'm not the person" resonated with me deeply. It may be the cause of my repeated exposure to self-referential nature of thought that revealed inattention and its interplay to create selflessness. You may underplay the importance of suffering in all of this, but it's understandable. Thank you for your response. I have learned a lot.

Read more carefully. To understand is to introduce. Absence of winning and losing is a win in itself.

? Wisdom