Saumaya

I dont know why @Etagnwo and @Anna1 defend their traditions so much. Its kind of....strange.

yeah

I remember reading J Krishnamurti's Freedom from known 3 -4 years ago. I really liked it at that time. I dont remember what j krishnamurti said though, hell I dont remember most of the stuff other teachers taught. I understand the true nature of reality completely so I dont feel a need. If I try to recall correctly, his teachings are not exactly non dual but they do share some similarity in ending duality.

yup, I said your style of communicating is very similar to J.Krishnamurti, but I preferred UG Krishnamurti.

Krishnamurti says that? lol

when?

@Faceless getting savage. Damn

@Shakazulu Im not exactly sure what you are asking about. Are you asking about evolution? There is nothing wrong with labelling as long one does not think that the labelled thing is its true nature

Levels of consciousness What I mean by this is there is no higher consciousness and lower consciousness. Consciousness has always been the same. Consciousness doesn't change. Truth doesn't change. It is how we are identified with ourselves, our behaviours, our beliefs, and in what proportion and aspects of them are we identified with. Everyone is unique and they would be entrenched in ego in different ways and in different proportion. It is the ego that changes not consciousness. Once ego starts disappearing, consciousness pours in and becomes clearer. A liberated person has dissolved his identity completely. Ego for them works like a patch, something to maintain for survival. Levels of Enlightenment There are no levels of enlightenment. Sadhguru is not more enlightened than Jed Mckenna. Jed Mckenna is not more enlightened than adyashanti etc etc. Enlightenment means, you become a blank slate or your living reality is of PERMANENT NO SELF. After you are done, there is no going back. You have realised the Truth, your true nature is your living reality. If this is not permanent, there is always further to go....until there isn't. ----------------x-------------------x------------------x---------------x----------------------x----------------------x-------------------------x-------------------- Thanks for reading Thoughts?

@Shakazulu The true nature of anything like contents of the dream(objects) and yourself cannot be described. Everything is made out of same thing. Its all One. Thats your true nature and cats true nature. As@Nahm said, its you, which means the true nature of everything is same. If you really want to call it something, you can call God, Consciousness, Truth, however you like it. Essentially it cannot be described in words. To find the cats true nature, you would have to find your true nature. Life is like a dream. So contents of the dream are more like appearance. That which you sense has no reality of its own. Life is a dream but the dream is real as its all One. Existence exists and its One. Thats best I could describe it. Hopefully this doesn't sound like mumbo jumbo.

*drops mic*

you are an easy target hehe

Its funny how you keep defending your precious traditions

Reading the latest chapter of One Piece

Nooo... its e3 time baby

Honestly....Krishna is more OP than Jesus

It has nothing to do with consciousness. Ego reduces its activity. Ego is the agent not consciousness. Consciousness remains the same.

I didnt say that, I had a lot of enlightenment experiences, but I knew there was further to go. I knew when it was the last one in my 2 year arduous journey. There was no further, only done. Just nothing. Not legal in my country, feels bad. What my aim is to get this fact out of their head that enlightenment is a never ending journey, because it isnt. I didnt say there cant be enightenment experiences, I said enlightenment happens once, and when its done its done. No going back. I should have specified that I guess.

A pure misinterpretation of the statement of what 'Reality is infinite' means but ok, good luck on your infinite realisations.

No offense taken but.....I forgive you

That could just be the most accurate definition of one's true nature. You are calling it God though. I dont know what you mean by these deeper states. Maybe even for me it was in gradual stages, I dont remember. One thing I can confirm though, when I was done, I was done. There is no question about it, there cant be any higher or deeper realisation. It is like you know everything there is to know about the world. There is no more seeking, just abiding in Non Dual awareness.

Yh but I dont think there is a requirement of conceptual understanding beyond a level, unless you have a desire for it. Learning jargon is not required for enlightenment. As jed mckenna says, the point is not to earn a phd in waking up, but waking up; Then you can do whatever you want.

Nope, I have no idea what you mean by those words, they could mean anything. Thats why I said to elaborate to confirm what you mean. You say it like you need a phd in Non Duality to reach enlightenment.

I have investigated enough to know there are no levels.

No Self is not an insight, glimpsing of what No self could be like temporarily is not the same as living ones reality as No Self. After Self is out of the way, only Truth is left. Realising Truth is knowing the nature of existence. Not sure exactly what you mean by God and intelligence here. If you could elaborate, that would be great. Love can only be of two types, Agape and devotion. Any other kind of love is egoic love.