Saumaya

Yes, what is this more?Can you give an exampe?

Whats more after enlightenment? Also are you saying that consciousness is an access to Self(you)?

Goddamit Nahm, you talk in riddles way too much

I don't know about crying, but I have definitely felt goosebumps from epic stuff

Agreed completely

access to what?

Well that goes for any insight doesnt it? Not just enlightenment

@Nahm Hmm...my mind is generally stays empty is what I meant. I think I have more of a problem with tolerance.

You mean maya? Saumaya means a quite and reflective person, it has nothing to do with maya(illusion)

there is no maybe in this, its the truth.

1)I didnt achieve anything. I only realised completely that all duality is false 2)Mostly self enquiry or spiritual autolysis 3)In 2 years I was done, after 2 years more I got acclimated to the new way of being

You see things in a new way only when stop identifying with thoughts, not when you have zero thoughts

Animals can be fascinating creatures eh? My mind is already still enough, no worries Samadhi is temporary experience, enlightenment is a permanent realisation, as far as my understanding goes

Thoughts dont cause suffering, identyfying with them do. Content of the thought doesnt mattter.

I inferred because they dont speak language i guess

Ikr, I dont know where people get this idea that thoughts are a bad thing. Only when one is controlled by their thoughts, it turns ugly.

It is memory that recognises faces not thought. Whats this difference between psychological and functional thoughts?

@MarkusSweden Stoicism is for kids

Only animals have zero thoughts

Mine took 2 years, but I did it 24/7

I felt very strange for me too, like I am some kind of different being now. It was so weird going to school with this realisation.

@Shanmugam True, a person's core is never affected after enlightenment. I have noticed that too.

Same...happened with me too

@Nahm Its true that no one has control, but its you who is taking the decisions. It is a paradox yes and it resolves when one grasps it experientially. I am not certain what you exactly asked so I gave the answer of the question I thought you asked. Whipping yourself and discipline means that if one doesn't do these activities, he will automatically fall into lower consciousness activities which is coming from a very low paradigm. One can always choose consciously, and if the flow of life says thy must be done, then it should be done. If one chooses go with the flow of life and still there some things one must stop doing then one can use Leo's "awareness is autocorrective method" until it resolves itself.

@Shanmugam @Joseph Maynor Im pretty sure its pointless to continue this conversation