Saumaya

@alyra Dude, you need to become conscious of your death not fear it. All fear is fear of no self. I dont know who told you this stupid idea that you need to fear death. Either you get this or youre chasing phantoms. Also you have no right to say whether people should leave or not

Maya. I dont know whether you are joking or not but if you truly think objests exist, you need a lot of work on yourself

Nothing, what makes you think an object exists?

Brain does create perceptions but it does not exist just like any other object.

Only one person in a million becomes enlightened without a teacher's help. -Bodhidharma

1. No, object is not there, I can only speculate that the object is there based on my memories. Sense of time, space and objects is gone. Everything is viewed as AS itself 2.Nothing, no object is related to me because there is no me. "Everything" is the centre which cannot be disturbed 3.Awakened state cannot be altered because awakened state is the embodiment of truth realisation. Whatever is false never existed. Certainly mind and body can be altered if some disease crops up but not enlightenment 4.No psychological suffering. Everything is at peace 5.Two kinds of love: Agape: Love for everything as it is Devotion: Abandoning oneself and completely surrendering to the object of love Hope this helps

What can I say..youre such an interesting guy

@Shanmugam haha

I love how we are using the poor guys thread to chat among ourselves. It has nothing to do with the creator of this thread's question.

Here he is guys.. The man The myth The LEGEND Joseph Maynor Himself!

@Nahm Ah okay i get it. So you are basically saying people resonate with other people who have similar experiential consciousness like oneself. The key is to look beyond this even if they fit or do not fit as your experiential consciousness match. Am I right?

Was I not looking past these justifications?What made you say all this?

What exactly is not your experience?

That went right over my head... So basically you are saying that individuals stop talking about something when it starts reaching a touchy subject just so they could maintain their sense of equanimity and not evolve?

@Patang Yup

@Patang

There is a permanent shift that takes place, your psyche is completely destroyed.Everything becomes fresh and new. You see there no more lack, suffering, chasing, seeking. Whatever true was always true and will remain true. You cant miss it. I am completely truth realised. If this is not enlightenment, I dont know what is.

Interestingly, chains were just illusions, He shouldn't let go but only realise that they are false as there is nothing to let go of.

@Shanmugam Ah I see, I used to unconsciously chase the Absolute, as I also used to follow conspiracy theories. I knew there was some truth and nobody is telling me what it is, I got introduced to spiritual enlightenment from leo's video. I didnt pay it much attention. It was only after reading Jed Mckenna's book I got serious. My journey lasted only 2 years. I guess I had better resources.

@Patang A good zen koan is this...Who was I before I was born?

@Shanmugam How long did your journey lasted?

Also Nahm says integration and embodiment comes after enlightenment. I can agree to integration to a certain extent because after enlightenment it is like learning everything from scratch But I dont agree with embodiment, You embody only what you lack

@Shanmugam Also he is recommending samadhi after enlightenment. Enlightenment is more like a permanent samadhi without any high. The only reason one feels high from samadhi is that they have a seen a glimpse out of false self. In enlightenment false self is not taken as true self so there is more high to it anymore. The subject and object have completely merged.

Just bought it, thanks

What do u mean by integration and embodiment in this context?