Saumaya

NO worries, no need to force seeking. You will naturally do it when letting go starts seeming pointless.

It is the same as asking in the spiritual process, which is more important, effort(seeking) or grace(letting go). Both are important and need to be balanced. I recommend you seek ruthlessly first . When you feel like you cant go any further, let go and take a break. Thats the balance.

What do you mean?

Yup

It is like some people live in their heads, but after a glimpse of their true nature, they become more conscious of their body. Being identified with the mind causes neurosis. It is like you become highly aware of the sensations in your body(conscious). A good book to read on this NO Boundary by ken vilber. I forgot the details though but he explains it brilliantly in that book.

@Ether An enlightenment experience or any sort of transcendental experience also helps you connect with your body more.

Generally the high wears off but there is a degree of new awakeness which is permanent

@Ether Good man, playing La Noire, u?

@Nahm <3

I never said it wasnt

I would say my liberation has not deepened as liberation needs something to be liberated from. Once you're liberated, you cant be anymore liberated. Freedom can only exist if there is bondage. I have though, become more conscious with my behaviour and how I interact with the world. It is a part of becoming a human adult.

@MarkusSweden I haven't watched both of the videos but I have a pretty good idea what the question is about. What rupert spira might be saying is true knowledge isn't possible so answering "why" is unanswerable. What leo is saying when he uses "why" is he is referring to experiencing the nature of reality as yourself. The context is different. Both are sides of the same coin.

@Joseph Maynor If i cant make you understand this, maybe, just maybe this will He answers it in first few minutes

Think about it, why not call meditating and resting action too? If you live intensely, everything becomes action just because you re highly conscious

Life is action, i agree

Enlightenment also called your natural state. If you read these effects you will notice that these effects are very natural and organic.

I wouldnt consider them enlightened honestly

Questioning and then letting go

Im assuming you are not enlightened ofcourse. Only you would know if you are.

Its a mixture of both

@egoless I meant about seriousness about results, not seriousness as in emotion

This is a community, you cant tell people to leave As is I said, you need to become a conscious of it, not fear it. Thats all

1)I dont think law of attraction quite works. 2)THERE ARE NO LEVELS TO ENLIGHTENMENT. Enlightenment literally will happen when all duality has disappeared. Once it has disappeared, it has disappeared. I dont where Leo heard this idea that there are levels enlightenment. Anyone who is enlightened will say that there is only one kind enlightenment. You can still have various enlightenment experiences though. 3)I usually went into my memories and questioned the heck out of them. Also asked a lot of metaphysical and epistemic questions. I questioned everything until everything burned down.

Congrats

Yes I understand. Thanks