Saumaya

@Nahm Nahm says it yes, all facts are context dependent and relative. It cant be absolute

give me something specific

@Shanmugam True lol

@EtherGive me a fact

You didnt get it. No worries lol

Remember when I said No Belief Is True? Did you get it?

You want me to see them as monsters? You mean like false selfs with beliefs about reality which they have to continuously maintain so they could maintain their falseness but if they discover their true core, they would realise that their falseness never existed in the first place. Or you are saying more like a solipsist who says people dont exist in the first place Remember whatever you project onto anything is just your beliefs about that thing or person. I would recommend you to throw whatever you have heard from other people and me and just make sense of it through your own experience. Nothing magical happens in enlightenment. I can go into detail why nothing really changes after enlightenment other than the effects I talk about and the end of duality. Love you too man <3

Good Questions What are they then? Enlightenment is not a magic pill. Yes I am in complete acceptance of everything, but I still have to maintain a functioning ego which can still get annoyed and loose its tolerance. As i said in one of the points, ego becomes adaptable and changeable. For example my mother drinks two cups of tea together everyday. I want to suggest to her that drinking two cups of tea can be harmful as she is taking a lot of caffeine. I want to do it in a conscious way. If she violently replies that who am I to tell her this, its my job to not react to that. I will still give her the reasons but ultimately its up to her. The point is, if you want to suggest a change to other people, you do it consciously rather than compulsively. Just a random example I used to illustrate that. A bit yes but not that much. After some time, it becomes autopilot and every response comes out of spontaneity. Nevertheless, I dont mean effort, when I say I am pretending. Its more like I am fooling other people in a way that the persona I am exhibiting seems to them as my real self(which it isnt)."Un enlightened" people think the persona they exhibit is their real selves. Good question. Yes there is no pre and post enlightenment. Absolute Truth was always absolute. It is just that the false self goes through a journey of killing itself. So pre enlightenment would be before the false self is killed and post after the false self has been killed. It is only a matter of context and perspective to explain these esoteric things.

OK I can sort of understand this, but your long posts are hard understand man

Just like people.I have noticed that the more the person is identified with their ego, the more they look mad. I have been recently working on accepting people as they are. If I want to change them, I want to give them a suggestion consciously rather than compulsively, though that has nothing to do with enlightenment. As far as interacting goes, Its more like consciously pretending as I listed in my points. Cheers

Stop saying that, youre not a pest.

@SOUL Can u elaborate on your sense of separation and perspective of unity.. you seem to use these quite a lot

Thats the least of it, it gives you superpowers beyond your imagination

I love.......(insert) I like @Shanmugam I hate @Saumaya This room is empty Basically thoughts that are taken to be true, function as a belief ,and no belief is true. Also thoughts are physical and are dual(just like beliefs).

EVERYTHING

As I said, everything

There are illusion because they are not it(truth). All thoughts are an illusion (if you consider them to be true ), not any specific ones.

lol I mistook it as if that was addressed to me

Sorry what was the question?

BAHAHA? Are you an actual monkey?!

Wow now I understand what@Shanmugam meant when dealing with different kinds of people with different levels in spirituality. I should learn to be more patient.

Ofcourse they are. isnt that obvious?

Im not silencing you mate. Im just saying you are a child trying to do astro physics. Read between the lines will ya

Haha typical half baked self help advice. Im pretty sure he was joking with those statements though.

After enlightenment, nobody can go back to being separate. No offence but you are like child trying to do astro physics.