TheEnlightenedWon

Hey folks, I thought I was "enlightened before" but I wasn't... The final step took months but it finally came in the form of a very simple realization - there is no I to be enlightened. I had heard people talk about it this concept and thought I "understood" it, but experiencing it as a reality is a whole other thing. This video helped me a lot: ^ Adyashanti talks about this and nothingness (which is related to no self in my experience) in other videos

I got the answers you're looking for. What I say is open for misinterpretation. Ask me anything.

^ There's a lot in my previous post that is open to misinterpretation. Don't overthink it. You're probably overthinking it right now even if you don't think you are. Not thinking you're overthinking it is a thought. All that needs to be done is this: Sit. Experience reality. Don't overthink it.

I like this question. Taking the time to sit, be, and observe. There will be many excuses that arise. See them for what they are. You are not the one making the excuses, they simply arise. Continue taking time to sit. Eventually coming to a place where thoughts quiet and I am at one with the experience. Sometimes the experience is very "unpleasant", "confusing", etc, and the mind wants to take over. There is nothing wrong with just experiencing these sensations. Some of the things that helped me most were realizing: 1) I am not the creator of my thoughts. They arise. 2) I am not the creator of the sensations in my body. They arise. 3) You see: If I am not the creator of either the thoughts in my mind or the sensations in my body, then who is desiring to make decisions? This leads to the realization of no free will. Or another way to say it, the realization that "free will" is a sensation or a thought that spontaneously arises. The statement of these realizations didn't help me. I had to sit down, and experience it. But think about this: If I was TRYING to have a specific experience, I would be presupposing agency. The realization of no agency can only occur when agency is not presupposed. The solution is to sit for long durations and see the way that you truly operate - the way your thoughts & sensations arise, etc. Just observe and see clearly. That is all. It's not supposed to be any one way. It's not supposed to be pleasant. Or peaceful. Or happen in X amount of time. Those are all personal preferences which must be seen clearly for what they are. That is all you have to do. See what's happening within you without trying to restrain or compel it in any way. Hope this helps. Correct, applies to us all. Any more questions?

Sometimes ^ Questions like "what is it like" and "can you tell us if XYZ (thing that can't be proven or disproven) is true?" are distractions in my experience.

Nah

One inch at a time I already answered the first question in this thread. Pain, longing, glimpses of "truth", the sense of something greater than "this". Plenty of "trauma". Although whether the trauma caused my desire for consciousness or was a result of it I don't know. Also, I had a great teacher. 1. There is the possibility of a greater understanding still 2. Uncertain. If you woke up from a dream that you had always thought of as real, how would you know that the "base reality" you woke up into was in fact the base reality and not another dream? 3. There is not a separate dream from reality. You're in reality. The dream is your distorted perception of it. Letting go of distortions doesn't modify the nature of reality, much like letting go of an object doesn't initiate gravity. Although it can certainly change your experience of it. 4. Sure

^ I dunno. When you figure it out, be sure to tell me @Clown Nah, I'm good Creating a habit of present moment awareness. I don't really keep track like that. I'd say its worth a visit. ^ I had an weird ass month long experience in 2017 that involved "heaven", reading people's minds, overwhelming states, and I thought this state was "it" and something I had to get back to. So I thought it would be like that. And I was trying to get back. Then I realized all over the place. @Sri McDonald Trump Maharaj What's the difference like on an MRI? I'd be down to take it if someone wants to pay...

@robdl There's a salad served in a cafe near me thats pretty good. Artichoke Hearts, Roasted Red Pepper, Red Onion, Tomato, Avocado, Fresh Mozzarella, Chicken. @Leo Gura Who wants to know? @starsofclay Lol

I see people posting as if they know they are Enlightened. How do you know? When I asked the highest master I've ever known if he was Enlightened, he replied "I don't know". Enlightened ones: When you were just a baby Ego, you likely knew nothing of a deeper level of consciousness. It was only through hearing about such states that you were even able to begin practicing. So, being at the consciousness level that you are at now, how do you know there is nothing deeper? Some "Enlightened" people on this forum act as if all action ceases after Enlightenment. Like you're just supposed to sit down and be content where you are forever. Sure, nothing wrong with that... But what's wrong with walking around and being content with further exploration where you are forever? There is so much to do, learn, see, experience. This does not cease after Enlightenment, contrary to what some false gurus might say. Knowing everything through direct experience is not the same as knowing about everything. It can be fun to learn about things. Being at peace doesn't mean you can't tinker with the mind to improve worldly performance much like a car hobbyist tinkers with an engine of a car to make it go faster. It can be FUN to go faster. It can be FUN to perform "well" in worldly functions, whatever that means for you! "Enlightened" people will say "But if you accept everything and let it be, blah blah blah... But there is no self do do these things blah blah... No free will"... This IS the paradox! What, your Enlightened mind breaks with a simple paradox of an Enlightened person making some change or improving some thing in the world? Stop thinking so much you big dummies. The highest master I have ever met enjoys video games, thrift shopping, eats chik fil-a like 5 times a week, has gotten his **** sucked by like 800+ girls, and likes to skydive. This shit is FUUNNNNNNNNNN. Get Enlightened, get your **** sucked, and lets all have a good time.

@alyra take a hike

@NoSelfSelf You can still do your job without controlling your mind. You can do anything without controlling your mind.

@Shanmugam @Saumaya Maybe you guys can help me understand something... I had an experience last year that lasted a about a month where my body was "destroyed" by the energy of God and I became all that is. Eventually, the experience ended. Since then, similar experiences have reoccured several times - mostly after smoking weed and meditating. The experiences had different elements at different times - sometimes infinity/infinite love, sometimes the sensation of being all that is, sometimes experiencing a what feels like another person's ego including their thoughts and past, or seeing through people's surface reality into the true beauty underneath. I have since stopped smoking weed. I feel as though I am an awareness with an Ego inside of me. Sometimes my awareness drifts and I become identified with the Ego inside. When I am aware of identifying with Ego, I can easily let go and just enjoy being. I still have "bad" habits and thought patterns such as procrastination or a sensation of minor irritation at another person. I don't view these as problems, and they seem to resolve themselves on observation. For the most part, the feeling of seeking is gone - whether seeking Enlightenment or anything else. I can feel reality flowing through me - sometimes stronger and sometimes more faintly - but I do not actively experience the full realizations of it that I have had in the past. Is this what people call Enlightenment? There seems to be a clearer view of reality that I experienced in the past and no longer do.

That worldly activity - and in fact activities that could be perceived externally as low-consciousness such as having plenty of sex with multiple partners, eating fast food 5 days a week, or earning lots of money (perhaps through illicit means) - are not necessarily in conflict with Enlightenment. Some on this forum seem to discourage continued development. They don't seem to understand that doing is a form of being. For instance, take a look at these responses to a thread I posted... My question was about continuing development of the mind after Enlightenment: My question was about action and I got responses about inaction. Interesting, no?

^^ OH, and he also made like $53,000 in the past three months. Forgot to mention that.

Nah, they're just concepts. And unless you're already enlightened, you still need 'em. Are you?

@Ether Are you still taking medication? Just wondering where you're at

@Ether I like to see you in here thanks for posting stay woke

What tasks could a guru possibly have?

What is universal will? Is it possible that the influencer and the influenced are one and the same? Nahh... That's jus crazy talk *Goes back to a life free of paradox*

^ Projection ^ Judgement ^ Generalization #ThatsDeep

Bastion and purveyor, eh?

I'm emulating myself so well rn I swear I must be enlightened #woke

Dang dude, you'll be just like Buddha. What a god damn saint.