WaveInTheOcean

You are very, very confused. Let me try to break it down for you, even though you will resist what I'm saying with all the ego you can confjure up (makes me question why I do this, but what the fuck, why do anything at all, one might say). 1. You say you don't look down on him, then proceed to obviously look down on him. Hilarious 2. Where am I defending him in my post exactly? Quote me 3. I could not give a bigger fuck whether or not he is awakened. Really. All I'm doing here is pointing out how fucking amazingly funny it is that you - on the other hand - is not giving a fuck about it, hehe. What I give a fuck about, though, is the wisdom of the words he is spitting out in his youtube-vidoes lately. Focus on the words, instead of the person. His latest video is basically 21 minutes of pure truth-dropping. I love what he's saying. I don't give a fuck about whether or not he is awakened, although to me, he is one of the most awakened dudes I've come across lately. It's fine that you disagree, but I'm just blown away of the wisdom in this video: 4. " I was in it for the development of health, weight gain and euphoria of exercise" . Oh right, you were, I forgot that So why did you want to develop better health and gain weight? For what purpose, exactly? If you say "to have a healthier body", then I ask again: Why do you want to have a healthier body? If you say "It feels nice", I may ask: "Why do you want it to feel nice?" Who wants to have a healthier body, who wants it to feel nice? Also why the fuck gain some muscle, anyway? Not to impress the girls, that's for sure, right? 5. I haven't watched his earlier videoes except of just skimming through his old channel, and by looking at the video thumbnails I can clearly see that only people who were still very much stuck in orange would watch these kind of videos. 6. "Hierarchies in this work are delusional." Oh, they are? In which "work", you say? So Trump was as equally awakened/liberated/enlightened/selfless as Jesus? Is that what you are saying? 7. Anyway, let's for a moment pretend that all humans on Earth are on the same level of consciousness -- no hierachies as you say -- and then look at what you wrote: "He completely adorned the superficiality of the gym lifestyle, which I found to be demonstrably depreciate it. " If there are no hierarchies, how come you call something as innocent as "gym lifestyle" superficial? Is it really any more superficial than you and me sitting on an internet forum discussing whether or not a random dude could be awakened or not? Is it more superficial than a man sitting in a cave meditating 24-7-365 ??? If yes, why? If no, then why call it superficial? Superficial according to who's standards? Superficial in regards to what, exactly? 8. "My estimation is that he is stuck in the territory of self-concept and ego, through which his rants are taking place and subduing others. Hence, his dualistic rants and pontificating." Why do you even spend time conjuring up an estimation of him? If he's just talking random dualistic ego-shit out of his mouth, why do you even care to attack him at all? If it's so obvious that he's talking nonsense, why do you take so much of your sweet time to attack the obvious? "territory of self-concept and ego" .. which territory exactly? There is no ego, ultimately speaking. You can't find it, cos it doesn't exist. Of course, relatively speaking there is ego. ((( Ego is all that in our personalities/mind which keep on insisting that We (We = Love = God = Consciousness) are not Love/Oneness but instead an isolated human being, a separate person, a 'poor little me', lacking something, and fearing the brutal cold, outside world, which will us no good. ))) ... ...Which also means that, relatively speaking, it makes perfect sense to talk about different levels of consciousness. Yes, ultimately speaking, we are all One, and Trump = Buddha = Love = Me = You. ... But it doesn't really make any sense at all to try to speak of the ultimate truth, really, because words can only point to it, nothing more. We can't state the truth with words, only talk about it. To get the truth, one must directly experience it, become it. So let's get some relative truths on the board now, shall we,: This dude has awakened to Oneness. I am awakened, too, and therefore my opinion on the matter is infinitly more valuable than your egoic, selfish, victim-mindset-beyond-obvious-shadow-projection critique of him. That you call his recent talks in his videos for "dualistic rants" makes me question if you have ever read a spiritual book or watched a spiritual video. Maybe you have. And maybe, instead, you are just insanely mad at yourself and him. For obvious reasons. And mad alone can't do it. You probably feel justified to feel that you should always be more "spiritual mature" than a guy who has made a living of posting "empty" Stage-Orange-content on a Youtube-channel. So not only are you mad, you are jealous, deeply sad (deep inside) and full of resentment. You feel like a 'poor little me', which is now imposing his beliefs to the this meaningless forum, about whether or not some random dude is awakened. Like it fucking matters. So therefore, if you want me to brutally honest, you are deluded and confused beyond what I thought was possible for someone on this forum to be. (Ultimately speaking, this means that I am that, and it saddens me, but it's also hilarious). Really, what is happening here, is that Connor is just expressing himself freely. He couldn't give a bigger fuck what you and I think of him. And what are you doing here? All you do is talking him down and criticizing him. For what fucking purpose? Stop masturbating around in your own egoic circle-jerk-victim-mind and start expressing yourself freely, like he does. Write/do something that means someting to you and the world, really, instead of just talking other people down. Yes, I'm also talking you down now, but I have to talk low-conscious-ego-stupidity down when I see it. Sure, get mad at me, that's the best thing you can do. The fucking least you can do. The most honest thing. Express yourself as freely and authentically as you can. Don't resist it. Be fucking mad. Be mad at Connor for having gotten ahead of you on "the spiritual journey". Be mad at me for being an arrogant prick towards you right now. Be fucking honest with yourself. Honesty is the least you can practice. I honestly haven't read a more dishonest post -- than this one of yours -- on this forum since I joined. At least be fucking honest with yourself, brother. Much Love <3

HAHAHA Amazing trip report man. Don't be ashamed. I'd love to have experienced that LOL love <3 You are Love itself. Don't forget that. EDIT: Sorry I meant to say that you should be ashamed of yourself fof being so reckless with your LSD-dosages. Being naked is bad. Running around screaming in a town is also bad, especially naked! Bad bad bad. Shame on you! Glad you survived it.

What is fear ultimately, fundamentally, when you break it all down? This: Fear is fear of you not being able to share love with all other selves in existence. Nothing more. Nothing less. The legimitate reasons for not being able to do selfless sharing of love are: - physical death in and of itself - a severe physical/mental illness - total social exclusion - lack of enough money and resources to do it - lack of sastification of direct survival-needs such as hunger, sleep, sex, appreciation from others, general safety, a home etc. - lack of enough love from others during childhood (because this makes you emotionally and unconsciously believe that you are not worthy and good enough to be selfless, i.e. share love.) And nothing more. This lists include all possible reasons of you not being able to share love unconditionally, i.e. be completely selfless. So all the things mentioned in the list you can -- already do, did or will -- fear...because of ultimately, because of *that*, being unable to share love with others. Physical death is the most obvious one (and all the other fears listed stem from that). But it is also the most mysterious/paradoxical one: because physical death will make you become Love in and of itself, which naturally means that there no longer is a 'you' that can practice selflessness/share love. Illness you can sometimes prevent and sometimes you can't. Social exclusion can be avoided by learning. The needed money and resources (including mental 'know-how') can be accumulated if your will is strong enough. Same goes for hunger, sleep, sex, appreciation from others, safety. (This doesn't necessarily apply if you live in a severe third world country, though). If you are so unlucky to have become a traumatized adult due to insane neglect/lack of love during early childhood, you need psychedelics or some other extreme measure that can reprogram your unconscious emotional workings (could maybe be extreme love/selflessness from another adult person, but unlikely to work, since you will probably reject his/her love in various ways, since you deep-down know you are not worthy of it). Of course, if you could recognize that physical death will only make your false self (the person you believe you are) unable to share love, not your true self (Love itself), then that would make selfless love-sharing A LOT easier :-) Anyway, anytime you are not acting in a selfless, unconditional love-sharing way (unconditional means also loving yourself, as well as all others, equally), it is because of fear..... of death ...... and that fear of death is fundamentally a fear of then being unable to do selfless sharing of love. (When you are death, or when you are very ill, you can't do it, obviously enough). So you ultimately need to let go of fear to actually unconditionally selflessly love yourself, the world and all others. And the only way to let completely go of fear is to deeply and directly recognize that what we normally consider death to be, is a grand illusion, and that what death actually is, is that it is totally and wholly equal to: Love. The only thing that dies during physical death is the limited, imaginary body-mind-person-ego; i.e. it is a character - a role - that dies. What remains after death is exactly that which were acting to be that role, i.e. that which wore the mask of the ego/person. And that is Love. And Love is equal to God, Consciousness, The Self, Nothingness, Oneness, Infinity, The Universe, etc., whatever you wanna call it. But it is loving and good. It is Love. Why does God not just stay God all the time to avoid feeling fear? - Because God is infinitely selfless. And that would be selfish of God. - Because God can't love itself without imagining 'other'. You see: other = you = God If God didn't imagine itself to be fragmented and separate from itself, God would then not be able to love itself. It is only by you imagining that you are separate, that you are able to love others... And then, ultimately, you will come to realize --- either by an awakening inside the dream of this life, or by a number of physical deaths and then awakening in some other life --- that 'others' are 100% equal to 'you', i.e. that you actually never were separate; you were always One, you were always God, always Love itself. So, of course, this is the ultimate paradox of reality: In order to become infinitely selfless, infinitely loving, you have to let go of the fear of death. But in order to let go of the fear of death, you have to experience what death is! You see? Letting completely go of the fear of death is only possible by actually dying. Then you can directly experience that what you thought death was, was actually Love itself! Luckily -- or actually not luckily, because of course! -- it IS possible to directly experience/become conscious of what death is, without physically killing the body. However, one ego-death most often won't do it alone. You need, after an initial ego-death-awakening, to actually then become concious of that which remains beyond ego: Love. And it isn't necessarily easy to become fully concious of it, i.e. yourself. It may take many more 'awakenings', more time, more understanding. After all, Love is limitless and infinite, so there is always room for more understanding for the limited human being. May you all surrender and let go ? May you all wake up ? Love ❤️

"Simply because, one does not awaken, awakening awakens to itself. " I like that, thank you. I agree very much. Good answer. ------------------------------------------------ So you were a gym/stage-orange/PUA-junkie (like Connor). But now you have moved pass that and are now spiritual (stage green/yellow/turquoise w/e). And now you "look down" on Connor -- your former "teacher", who you then saw to ultimately be a noob (spiritually talking). Seems like classical psychological unconscious projection to me =D "Awakening is not an instant bypass, it requires meticulous and arduous embodiment. Far more than that of a single mystical experience." I agree. But could it be that Connor -- like you have -- have actually been interested in awakening/spirituality for +3 years and that he just recently (1-2 months ago) got a "breakthrough" ? ... ...And that you for some unconscious reasons simply cannot be open to that possiblity? :-D Be open at least. As you say, what does "awakening" even mean?. There is no one here to awaken. Connor has not awakened obviously; Awakening has awakened to it self, as you say; this is always the case <3

2C-B, no doubt.

"Why are you not me and me not you? Why were you born as yourself and not as someone else? " I am you, and you are me. I was born as everyone. I cannot be born as someone else, cos me = you = everyone. There is no-one else than you. Which is also me. What should we call it then? You, me. We can call it 'We'. We can call it "I" . We can call it "You". We can call it Love. God. Consciousness. What do you want to call it? It's Absolute Oneness. Your distinction between 'you' and 'me' will turn out to be false, if you care to investigate the "issue" deeply enough. But I don't think you care:D Maybe! Let me give you some hints. On what terms do you know that you exist as a separate 'me' ? What is necessary for there to be a 'me'? : More hints: What is the opposite of 'me' ? Can you have up without down? Life without death? And vice-versa? And so for all opposites? Is it possible to have one without the other? Me without other? If it is not, then that must mean that 'me'/'self' and 'you'/'other' arise simultaneously, which must then mean that they are truly one and not different at all. And then we can conclude again: I am You - You are Me

@Jacobsrw sorry I have not read the whole thread, but may I ask, how come you have watched so many of Connors earlier stage-orange videos? (personally i have never heard of him until last month). also what does "awakening" mean to you? when are you truly awakened? are you awakened? <3

You could define ego to be everything selfish in you - everything that keeps on insisting that you are 'a poor little me' in a cruel world...a separate self...a victim that has to fight to survive. Personality is just personality. Of course, one's personality can be greatly influenced by ego. But you can have a special kind of personality without much ego.

Haha wauw lol, im just amazed by how attached your are to your own ideas about him (and the world for that matter) Let go The dude has woken up. Sure, he lacks groundedness - itll come

By always trying to view whatever 'bad thing' that happens to you as a potential for something positive, you actually directly align yourself with The Divine/God/Love. For example: You lose your job. You are naturally sad, but try to view it as a potential for new unexpected growth. Same goes for losing your GF/BF: naturally you are sad, but again, try to see it in a positive light. You can always do this. No matter what happens. Even if you get blind, lose your legs, your cock, arms, w/e. Turn it to something positive. ❤️??? Everything happens for a reason. The reason is that The Universe/You wants 'you' to wake up to the infinitely intelligent, loving nature of IT/YOU (LOVE). Always.

I'm intp and this was fun/interesting:-)

Beautiful. You are always ready to progress towards discovering what is ultimately true -- i.e. to progress towards liberation/awakening. Don't worry about that. It will happen at its own pace no matter what 'you' do. Yes, the key to negative emotions is to not resist them. Observe them, let them be. Don't control. Even let yourself fully go and just immerse yourself in the raw qualia-feeling of the so-called "negative" emotion itself. What happens when you fully let go of control and have absolutely no desire to change anything about the present moment / the Now ?? What happens is that you stop unconsciously, emotionally seeing it/labelling it as "negative" or "positive": it just becomes part of the present moment. And then it actually becomes beautiful. All emotions are beautiful in their own right. Absolutely beautiful. Absolute love. <3 Yes, everyone are somewhat traumatized by their childhood. But you can often become conscious of this and remedy it, if you are willing to put it in the work. I was talking about extreme neglect/extreme lack of love. This is not the norm, although there are still way too many who have been exposed to this. Yes, fear is a reaction towards something you perceive as a threat to yourself. It is relatively speaking the opposite of love, yes. Absolutely speaking it is Love though, just as everything is. Nothing is not Love. What I was doing in this post was to go full-circle to show that, yes, fear is a reaction towards something you perceive as a threat to yourself,... --> so that if 'yourself' got damaged too much/died, then you wouldn't be able to participate in the sharing of Love with all other beings...<-- this is what you actually fear. Of course the Cosmos is designed in such a way that everyone -- sooner or later -- gets to bathe in the <Oneness of Love>. Cos Everyone = God <3

Perhaps. i may have , through my life, been too much over in the overly rational distanced cleft in regards to my emotions. I think you have to combine "letting you feel what you feel for the beauty of it" with also trying to turn all events into something positive.

<3 "Yes, every problem we have stems from the desire to be separate, to survive, control and be loved." . Yes. Even the potential to have any problems at all stem from this. If there were no desire to survive, there would be no conscious separate beings, there would be no problems. But that also means that there would be no love. So of course there are selfish actions, of course there are problems. It all happens out of and due to: Love! <3 "The shortcut to the awakening is to rest as awareness in the present moment. This is so healing, because present moment does not have any issues. Our mind is always lost in the thoughts about past and future, that creates fear. " Truth spoken. Let go to the present moment, and peace will naturally come to you ... If you can let go.

see my two answers in this thread

"Can you see that this "work" isn't a gain, but a loss?" This is true in one sense, and not quite true in an other. Depends on you look at it (like everything does). It's always a perspective. In one sense, it's true, you have to let go of yourself in this work. And when you have finally surrendered, you see that everything, all your struggles and desires and attachments, they were all pointless, hopeless, never-fulfilling, never-ending, always spinning around in a circle of 'me, me, me¨. And in a sense, there is no 'me' after enlightenment. It was seen to be illusion/imagination. However, in another sense, you don't lose anything. You can still keep your dog, your bf/gf, your family, your friends, your favorite paintings, your job etc... if you want to. Enlightenment is equal to ultimate freedom. You decide. Always. It's up to you. It has always been, always will be. You see that. It's totally up to you what you make of it. I "personally" choose to make love of everything, cos that's what is most true ("to me" and "in reality" ... it's the same). And of course, you do "gain" the insight of love being all there is. ... Which I would call The Mother Of All "Gains" <3

Beautiful <3 "Can you see, that it is hopeless for you to look for freedom, because it literally is all there is? Even the experience of it being somewhere else, is freedom." Yes. Hopelessness - Freedom; this duality ultimately collapses. It's one and the same thing. "You're chasing your own tail. You'll NEVER catch it." Exactly. And that's the beauty of it all. It would be very sad/boring/limited if it were actually possible to catch one's own tail! <3

Thanks, great post

Who/what created these "ascended souls" ? And how? And why? What purpose do they have, these gods of yours. It's a sweet story at least, I dig it.

If you want to become God, you have to "unbecome" yourself. You actually don't have to become anything if you want to be God. Cos this has always been the case. It will never not be the case. You are God. Only, you don't see it, i.e. yourself, because you are so immersed in the dream, immersed in ego, worrying about your self-image, about your own survival, so engaged in selfish pursuits, and sooo many attachments, sooo many beliefs -- wrong or right doesn't matter -- sooo many fears, sooo many regrets, sooo many desires for becoming 'something', i.e. "God". Let go. Let go of attachments. Let go of beliefs, let go of fears, let go of regrets, let go of desires. And start focusing on the Now as it is. Perfect as it is. Immerse yourself in the raw experience of the Now. Then maybe, just maybe, you will get a glimpse of your true self, i.e. God.

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gotta say, a brilliant video from our new dude on the block here. In the latter half of the video he talks about how all his "confidence-training" (by exposing yourself to outside-your-comfort-zone) became obsolete when he finally had his awakening. When you are fully awake, you know (not just a belief, but you *know*, as in the same way you know the colour blue is ... ta-daah: blue) that your true self is not human, but God/The Self/Consciousness/-w/e u wanna call it-. This means you don't actually fear death any more. And shyness/fear of approaching strangers/women results ultimately from your fear-of-death, so naturally this fear goes away when you're awake. This means that you sort of automatically become truly confident, and can express yourself as you want, without social/survival constraints. That's basically what he talks about. And yeah, everything in life, including exposing yourself to women you're terrified of = a spiritual journey. Nothing in life is not spiritual/not a step (however small) towards the collective awakening of all humans on planet earth. :-) And to all people who are not yet awake, make no mistake, you should always challenge yourself by stepping outside your comfort zone. Yes, it's per definition "not-nice", i.e. it doesn't feel nice in the moment you do it. But it's there all treasures in life are hidden away. Also the spiritual ones. Afraid to take a psychedelic? Afraid to go on a meditation retreat? Do it. Afraid to approach women? Do it. Whatever you're afraid of, there is gold behind that fear if you go into it. Literal spiritual gold. For example by actually going out there and talking to women, yes, you will naturally get more sex/laid as you become more confident, but that is not the "gold" i'm talking about, that is just a side-bonus, if you wanna call it. The gold is the inner work happening: in this case your confidence. And inner confidence translates directly to spiritual maturity (not fake confidence, but inner confidence... which you can only get by direct experience, not theory!). I like how he talks about starting with small things like taking a small 1-2 minute cold shower every morning. A cold shower is not-nice, and therefore forcing yourself to do it = stepping outside your comfort zone (gotta tell you tho: it feels nice aftewards, I do it everyday after my initial hot shower..., yes I'm not hardcore:-))). So just by doing this small thing of implementing daily cold showers, you are training your unconscious mind and body to "be okay" with doing things that lies outside the comfort zone. And therefore it will be a tad easier doing more "dangerous things" like talking to that girl, or w/e it is you're socially afraid of doing, but deep down want to. Do it. <3

Milligram Scale imo God in avatar human form. That's who All humans are. The difference is whether you are aware of it or not. Most ppl aren't. We are not strictly omniscient and omnipotent because we freely have chosen to continue living inside the dream as God in a limited avatar-human-form. And yet, precisely therefore, in another sense: We are omnipotent, just like you are, only you won't admit it/you keep pretending to be 'a poor little me'