WaveInTheOcean

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this is extremely on point. this answer ends/wins the thread. /eod

@kagaria you should learn to differentiate between mind and ego. Mind is a tool. Ego is the energy inside you that wants you (God) to believe that you are not-God, but the mind/brain/body. You see? The body, brain and mind are tooooools. Great tools man. Extremely powerful imaginary tools. So powerful that they -- when used properly -- can be used by you - God - to self-realize. If there were only God/Oneness/Love -- i.e. Me/You -- and nothing to contrast it with, like i.e. separate minds, 'stuff', form, minds, bodies, waveintheocean, kagaria, then We could not ever "know" ourself. So yeah, powerful tools. So extremely powerful that they can also for a lifetime trick God (you) into believing that you are a separate self/mind/body. Don't let that happen tho. TAKE CONTROL OF THE TOOL! Ego is just all that energy inside your body-mind-avatar-vessel that 24/7 INSISTS that you are not God but a separate mind/body/self. How to let go of ego? Become conscious of it. Awareness/Love is all that is needed. You can't eradicate all ego, cos that would mean to stop being human. And hell, even Jesus and Buddha existed as human beings, right? (from a relative true, human perspective; of course absolutely everything is God, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here). Just become conscious of ego. By becoming conscious of ego, you start taking control of your mind, instead of letting ego control it. Ego = non-awareness / being asleep / unconsciousness / fear / feeling of lack / feeling of being a separate mortal self / tension in body and mind Mind = a tool for Consciousness/God/Love/Nothingness/The Universe/The Self/Absolute Infinity to explore itself.

Do the work/effort needed to see that no work/effort is necessary for happiness. end of discussion The work/effort you need to do is simple enough: - practice honesty in all areas of your life, especially towards yourself and towards your beliefs. Do I really know anything? What is a belief? Do I know anything that is not a belief? (hint: you do not, knowing stuff and believing is 100% identical, ultimately. Of course, relatively speaking, beliefs that come from direct experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs you have read/conceptualized in your head/been spoonfed by peers). - be brave enough to be vulnerable towards yourself and others. If you feel like shit, tell your friends/family. If you feel like a million bucks, tell them as well. - self-observation, self-observation, self-observation (meditation and esp. psychedelics helps x1000) - question everything - love yourself, and treat others like you yourself want to be treated - whatever you fear, as long as you can see the fear is irrational, cast yourself into it, you got nothing to lose and everything to gain. - ??? profit (profit as in wiping those glasses clean so you can see you are already standing in the middle of Nirvana/Paradise/The Kingdom of Heaven and have never not been here.). EDIT: This girl is dope by the way. Crazy aura/energy that exudes infinite surplus of love (hehe <3). And she drops some truth bombs. However, funnily enough, my ego find her attitude/way of being extremely annoying<3 This also means I find her rather attractive. She owns the feminine energy like a Goddess while also seeming to having balanced in some healthy masculine energy. very sexy indeed (doesn't hurt she looks pretty too :D) Be aware, she just speaks truth from one perspective, however. From a very legit perspective sure. But this doesn't mean you shouldn't work on yourself. Noonono, do the work needed to see that you are God -- (meditation, psychedelics, practicing extreme degrees of openness, listening/reading about non-dual spiritualy from good teachers, like her, hehe;)<3

have a pleasant trip brother <3

Take 1 g more :-) and listen to good music. Tycho - Dive , great album for a trip?

Yes, from my experience, absolutely, of course

Nice report, beautiful, thank you Yes, MDMA potentially has some harmful physical effects (neurotoxicity) which regular psychedelics do not have. So keep it to max 4 rolls a year (min 3 months between rolls). Also 200mg is a high dose. Maps use 125 mg . Lower doses should mean leas risk for neurotoxicity

When you truly have awoken all there is left is God/Love/Consciousness (which also is what was before ofc, only you didn't see it). So it's not just that there isn't anyone left after awakening -- that's true enough, relatively speaking -- it's that what is left is what really IS: Love/Oneness/God/The Garden of Heaven

True enough, relatively speaking. However, also 'alone' vs 'together' is a dualistic language game/concept that must collapse. You see? The very notion of being alone is only real if you can contrast it with being together. You are alone together. You are together alone. It can't be described with words. God is nothing (yet God is equal to Consciousness, The Universe, Love). God is neither alone nor together, yet he is also both. Also, the notion of being God willing everything into existence, yes it is relatively true. But one can easily see how egos can misinterpret this and like, identify with it personally/egoistically...just look at the length of this topic. I know what it's about, i dont even have to read all the pages lol All it is, is egos discussing with other egos. Which yes, ultimately can be seen as the one Divine Godhead having fun and playing around, fooling himself but ultimately just having a meaningless discussion with herself.

Extremely interesting, thx for the link❤️

I know though The purpose is for the Self to wake up. I'm speaking from direct experience, this is not a belief , ofc I cannot communicate it clearly with woeds. The Self knows. I am The Self so ofc i know. By being the Self i am everybody. Im not jumping to any conclusions, i know i am everybody and everything, and that is really beautiful (from direct experience)

Why is a mouse afraid of a cat? In the same way, why is ego afraid of God/Love/Consciousness?? Annihilation

"Human beings for no reason whatsoever have evolved enough to create an illusory experience of a separate identity within these human bodies." mnjahhahhhh So you say it's purely random that human beings evolved on this lump of rock?:D I think this is all a dream, yes. One big dreamy happening. There is no one in the dream, indeed. But who's dreaming? Who dreamed up stars and galaxies and planets and earth? Who dreamed up human beings? That's the question you should dive deeper into. It's not an accident that you are alive on this planet. Of course I agree, in a sense no one are alive, we are all death already, there is no self inside any person's head, sure, its illusion. But who is being tricked by this illusion of self? And... what is the point of all this? I mean if it isnt random, there surely must be a point. I'd say the dreamer is intelligent and loving. And the dream is constructed in such a way, that ultimately the dreamer always realizes he/she/'it' is dreaming, and that's the most magical moment. The more far out the dreamer can get in believing in the dream 'as real', the more of a relief it is to finally wake up The point of life is to live. The point of dreaming (living) is that it is Love's way to share itself - Love - with itself., nothing else. Pure Love, pure imagination. That's all there is to reality, and by "that's all" I just happen to mean absolute infinity. Some call it 'God' as well. God = Love = Consciousness = The Self = The "Dreamer" ... that's you , that's me. Human beings are imaginary like everything else within the dream. Even to believe that there is 'no one' i.e that. 'no one is in control' , even that is seen to be imagination:D <3 And you call that "not mystical". I call it fuckingly amazingly i-shit-you-not MYSTICAL! <3

who's realizing no one is in charge?

best

Find a good loving Ayahuasca retreat center and do it. Trust me on this one. Traumas? We got aya for that

Beautiful, Eckhart is on point . Yes, creativity, true joy, unconditional love and inner peace are mystical and divine and has nothing to do with the apparent separated thinking mind.

❤ thx for the share, will read it tommorow when my mind is not sleepy, gotta get that sleep still=D

its all play man =DD <3

absolutely beautiful. thanks for the share. osho was so clear and cut to the point. <3

Thank you ❤ Yes, I know, I appreciate the help. Yes, there are always more perspectives to integrate, love, understand. Of course, it is nice to reflect yourself in other people (i.e. talk to others who are in the 'same boat' as you). I agree. Yes, friends and familiy is great. I'm a very, very lucky human being. I am so immensely grateful to be alive ❤

you rock <3

@VeganAwake If there really is 'no one' "there" as you say, why is it so important for 'no one' to get confirmation from others if 'no one' is liberated or not? Another thought for who/what? 'No one', right? So if there is no one to be concious or unconscious of anything in the first place, why are you then asking these questions? When you say "conscious me", what do you mean exactly? Do you mean some part of the person/separate mind/'soul' - like personality, preferences, memories, habits, beliefs, ideas, knowledge, dreams, world-views? Because if that's what you're talking about with "conscious me" then of course that will die with the physical body, because both the physical body & the person-mind is not really *real* in the first place; it's just imagination. Only that which is actually *real* cannot die, because it was never born either. It has no form, no attributes, no limits and it's not dependent on anything (like "time" or "space" for instance). But everything else: e.g. time, physics, space, form, matter, objects, physical reality, mind, thoughts, emotions, sensations, sense of self, sense of-no-self, ... IS dependent on it. What words would you use to describe that/it ?? (well knowing that it has no attributes and that all words used therefore are only pointers, nothing else). In other words: to you, what is that which is real and cannot die? What words will you use? Personally, I'd like to use the following words interchangeably: Consciousness, Love, God, The Absolute. These 4 words are all pointers to exactly the same thing, for me. It is what I am, ultimately. It is what you are, ultimately. It's all One (Oneness could be a 5th word). It is what just is beyond the body, beyond the apparent external world, beyond the apparent separate mind/persona. We could call it Pure Being as well (6th word, hello). It is not just beyond everything, it is also the source & substance of everything. It is also that which experiences everything (body, mind, world, etc.) ... It is that which imagines everything/all forms into existence ... out of itself ... to itself ... by itself. There is nothing else than it. Nothing is outside of it. And nothing is inside of it either, because The Absolute is infinite,... so it has no inside, no outside. It just is what actually IS. So all 'illusory things' (body, mind, other humans, the physical world, space, time, matter) are ALSO *that*. Nothing is not that and simultaneously it is nothing either. The real, unreal. The unreal, real. Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. That is why I told you to go out and look on the sky and take a talk while enjoying the sun and some music. Cos that is fucking IT. There is nothing else than THAT. (All my and your word games here are just pure fucking nonsense-conceptual-bullshit, ultimately speaking). Eckhart Tolle talks a lot about it. He calls it "The Now" / "The Present Moment" (7th word, hello). “Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to “die before you die” and find that there is no death.” What Tolle means by this, is simply that all that really exists is The Now. It is what you are. The Present Moment is all you got - it is you! The Now is eternal and infinite. It was never born, it will never die. It is nothing and everything at the same time. The Now is pure bliss in its essence. It is Samadhi. Samsara is seen to be Nirvana itself. The very world we walk on is seen to be Heaven. World, Heaven. Heaven, world. Nirvana, Samsara. Samsara, Nirvana. It's all ONE. (Non-duality 101, remember). Jesus said it: "The Kingdom of Heaven is within you". When you see this -- no, feel this, more importantly -- that all dualities collapse into each other (right in front of your eyes, and inside you, too); that is when I'd say 'a person' is truly awakened, although you are also right: it happens to 'no one' ... because 'no one' is exactly what God / The Self / Love / Consciousness / The Absolute *is*. You see? It is no one. It is not WaveInTheOcean, it is not Trump, it is not Leo, it is not VeganAwake, it is not any body, any words, any thoughts, any emotions, it is not any thing; it is nothingness..., and therefore by the virtue of being nothing, it is simultaneously also everything, you see ?? (( But remember: words are still only pointers. Don't get stuck in believing in words/concepts. Replacing concepts with direct experience is the biggest trap in this work )) So after the body dies, all that will go on living eternally is that which already were eternal. No one. God. Love. Consciousness. Whatever you wanna call it. It is YOU (ultimately) and it is ME ultimately (not as the separate selfs we can think we are, no no, I should have made that clear by now). We could also use a 8th word: The Self (Sri Ramana Maharshi liked to call 'it' that). Consciousness / The Self / 'no one' / "spaghetti monster" / Love / God is that which imagines the body and the mind. It is that which is playing it is a separate self, i.e. a human being. It is that which imagines thoughts, imagines feelings, imagines 'other', imagines 'self, imagines 'no one', imagines 'God', imagines 'love', imagines monters, dragons, stones, physics, time, space, all possible words, concepts and sensations. In other words, that which is wearing the mask will remain infinite and eternal after the mask dies (mask = body/person-mind/memories). You see? <3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From another thread: Who/what then recognize that recognition of <there's no one' here> ??? ... No one? But who/what then recognizes that the recognition of <there's no one here> is recognized by no one? ... No one ? But ... and you see where I'm going with this ... <3 Again, let me quote you here: Who has received confirmation? You say that there are no one 'here', right? And yet, you are also saying that no one then went over to some other 'enlightened masters' to get confirmation that there truly were no one 'here'? . How did that go about, really? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I do understand what 'Liberation' is. It is a word. Like 'boobs' or 'underwear'. Could it be ---- just be open to this possibility; as you say, we should practice unknowing ---- that it is not "no-one/God/Consciousness" through the WaveInTheOcean-avatar who is stuck in concepts from others, but that it is instead "no-one/God/Consciousness" through the VeganAwake-avatar who is stuck in concepts from others, such as from "Liberation Unleashed Guides" ?? I read the guides you linked to, and they all seemed fine and full of spiritual wisdom (to me, probably not to my dad or mother), but they are still just meaningless words on their own. Don't trust or look at the "words / the finger pointing to" ..... but instead trust "your own direct experience / the moon". Bless you brother And by the way, I don't care if any people in my life or on this forum consider me awakened or not. All I want for my friends, family and all people in this world, including you, is the same that I have received in form of lasting peace, love and happiness*. To be actual happy is really all that matters, and I really want all others to be happy, cos all others are me. I'm just very egoistical, you see? I want myself to be happy at all times. I just know 'myself' is not just WaveInTheOcean's private mind, but every single other mind in the whole multiverse. They are me. So to answer my question: I couldn't be less curious what others think of me. What I know is my own inner subjective experience. I don't need others to validate anything in me. I am complete. You can call me misslead or self-fooled or awakened or enligthened. What does it matter, what words you and others project onto me? Nothing. It really changes nothing inside me. Inside me there is only peace and happiness and love to self and other. It is not dependent on any validation or anything. I don't know if I'm liberated (by your book), and I couldn't care less. For what it is worth, my best friend since childhood called me "legendary" two days ago at a party when he was drunk (I wasn't, I'd never want to be drunk again, no point anymore for me... I am already drunk and high on life sober). He said I was the most fantastic and unique human being he had ever met. LOL. I told him I loved him too, haha. He's cute and such a nice friend. Not spiritual at all, unfortunately. But you can't force friends. Show, don't tell. Let's see where's he's at in 10 years;D ... In 2 weeks I'm going to a cottage with him and my little brother and another really close friend (they are both much more spiritual) and we are all going to take a bit of 2C-B and/or shrooms. Hopefully, my good non-spirutal friend will soon be on the path, but if not, that is also fine. He's already ultimately perfect, just like everything else. It just saddens me to see people -- i.e myself -- suffer. * It did come at a price two years ago though, where I was in such a deep 'victim-poor-little-me-depression' that I almost killed myself (everything was planned, just couldn't do the last step of actually jumping due to the love towards my family). I still get close to tears when I think about the contrast of that period of my life (felt like an eternal bad nightmare LSD trip) to my current state of mind / life, and how close I was to ending it (all imagination, though, so maybe I did end it in another dream, but luckily not in this dream, ehehe). But as Jesus once said: "The heavenly highs you are capable of reaching, are proportional with the unacknowledged abyss you have the courage to sink down to." ... or maybe it was someone else who said it.

Are you kidding me, or are you actually for real?