WaveInTheOcean

@VeganAwake "but it isn't about metaphorically smashing everything together into 1. I am not this body and also a Chinese race car in a factory in Hong Kong." Yes it is. Yes you are. Only you don't see it, like a fish doesn't see water. It's too obvious. Some day, maybe you will see it (become it). "And just like sandcastles although there are apparent differences, it's all still just sand, its all star material" There are no apparent different bodies and there are no sand. It's all Consciousness/Love/God/You. You still got a long way to omniscience bro. I wish you all the non-dualistic luck you need. ❤️?

Mhm - so that's how one becomes no one, thank you for enlightening me; one cannot become no-one because One is already No One! Aha, non-duality 101... - only the Vegan-Awake-avatar seems to be still stuck in a dualistic belief of clinging to "No One", not realizing you can't have "No One" without "One"... Just like FC Barcelona/Real Madrid fans cling to their favorite team and hope the other team goes to Hell, not realizing that if the other team went to hell - as in disbanded - their own team, as they know it, would disband too..., Cos how can you define FC Barcelona without defining Real Madrid?

Nice report, thank you Did you take the lsd and mdma at the same time, or how was the timing?

How does one be no one ?

Sweet sweet innocent child - you have to learn when the adults are talking on a relative true level (within the context of human life/the dream) and when we are talking on an absolute level. But even then, most people here on this forum, even Leo, seem to often forget that even the difference between 'relative' and 'absolute' is imaginary, arbitrary and meaningless/illusory. Fundamentally, "dream/life/ego/samsara/human" is 100% identical to "Awakening/God/Nothingness/Love/Consciousness/Death/Brahman/Heaven/Nirvana There is zero difference, ultimately - it's all Oneness. So you pointing out to me that there is no others, just clearly shows your lack of understanding, especially your lack of understanding context. ❤️

Your unconscious psychological projection onto others is hilarious ????

It seems surely to be hard for someone, yes

"First and foremost the cornerstone of non-duality is the recognition of No Self." Wrong:-) The recognition of no-self is very important on the spiritual path of awakening, but it's just a small piece of the rabbit hole of actual non-duality. Non-duality is first and foremost the recognition that all dualistic opposites are one and the same thing. No difference. Hitler, Jesus, God, Satan. It's all one. Life-Death. Love-Hate. Good-Evil. Self-No-Self. All One. ____________________________________________________________________ Let me try with words to point you to what it actually means: Reality is non-dual. Non-duality means: Not one, not two. The question is: do you get it or not? For example, let's take the extremest duality: ego - god . Obviously complete opposites. Right? Well, not so fast. Apply non-duality to it: Reality is not: ego. Reality is not: god. (either) Reality is not: "god AND ego". Reality is: ____________________ (Or you 'could' say: "ego-god"). Or as Alan Watts used to say when describing the nature of the Absolute; he said: "Reality is *he smashes a gong* and we won't give it a name." :-) That is the closest you get to what non-duality (= reality) is with words, hehe. ____________________________________________________________________ Some good quotes for ya:

You got zero clue what actual non-duality is (hint: it cannot be communicated with words or conceptualized by a rational mind), and I will not even bother anymore to try and point to you what it is, because you obviously won't listen. Discussing with you on this forum is like talking to a wall; I always know what to expect in return. It's boring as hell -- I quit ?

Who, what, recognizes it? Seen through by who/what? To use terms like "see" or "recognize" does imply a subject-object-relation. That you call it "No One" is fine and fancy, but we could as well use "Spaghetti Monster"...or Love ... Or Consciousness ...or God. You do realize you use the term "No One" as a noun, as though it is someone, right? Your "No One" is the same as my "Love/God/Consciousness", only: 1. I realize language is futile and that language is just a game that in and by itself will never lead you to any true insight. In other words, language is just meaningless words, we each assign meaning to. Subjectively. Nothing else. Words don't correspond to anything "real" -- words are just: game, pointers, a tool. Nothing else. Do you also realize this? To become truly awakened you have to let go of the ladder (words) and climb to God yourself (you are God/"No One"). 2. Since you obviously don't realize the significance and truth of 1., you seem to still cling to dualistic concepts (language); like how you cling to the terms "No One"/"No Self". So your understanding of "No One"/God/Love/Consciousness is very limited and narrow. You need to widen your horizont by an infinite amount - then you will realize first and foremost that existence is inherently deeply mystical and magical, and that you truly know absolutely nothing about everything. There is nothing to know, not because there isn't one that could know (there is: Love/Consciousness/God), but because "knowing" (like clinging to No-Self, like you very much so) is always limiting and miss "The Whole"...How can eyes see themselves without a mirror? Or teeth bite themselves? What's the sound of one hand clapping? This are all koans designed to rip your ego and selfish unconscious attachments to pieces. And they will if you care to reflect on them a lot. But obviously you don't care, cos obviously you already "know" that "there is No One here", and thus you are already enlightened and awake (ego), and thus no one on this forum can teach you anything (ego); you can only preach your utterly limited awakening to everyone else (ego), which also seems to be what you do every single day of your life on this forum (when you aren't banned of course). This clinging is ego. Pure ego. Let go.

No one is equal to someone. This is the definition of non duality my dear friend. To cling to either opposite is dualism. Like believing you can have up without down, good without bad, selling without buying...- you can't:-)

No One is also Someone To believe it happens ONLY for No One, is a clear "symptom" of a dualistic mindset, still.

... until It isn't, of course ;-) Remember: No perspectives - in isolation - are The Truth. Perspective 0: When it is recognized that the feeling that there's more to be found is just another "illusory thought", it takes the wind out of the sails, so to speak, right? Perspective 1: When it is recognized that there is always more layers and more depth to The Infinity of Love & Consciousness than your own myopic selfish imagination, you are humbled beyond humbled, and this does set wind in the sails, so to speak. ? Perspective 0: When it is recognized that the 'feelings of fear, lack & separation' are just "illusory ego-thoughts"..., where do you go from there? It seems that nothing matters, since there is "no one here". Naturally, then, there is nothing to gain, nothing to lose. Everything is whole & complete as it is. Right? Perspective 1: Easy enough: You go beyond that limited, myopic victim-perspective and start seeking (yes, fucking seeking) for the "final Loving blow to yourself", that will from ever thereafter make the 'feelings of fear, lack & separation' impossible for You to even create/receive/perceive again. - Just recognizing that the feelings/thoughts of 'fear, lack & separation' are due to 'egoic identifications/stories/survival-programming' is one thing; we could call that "the awakening of the mind." - But to actually never again get any 'feelings of fear, lack & separation' is another thing; namely, what we could call "the awakening of the heart." (( Awakening of the Heart = Infinite Happiness. Inner Peace. Always seeing Yourself in Everything. Understanding that the Entire Multiverse is being manifested due to Your Will / Your Intelligent Boundless Love. )) Of course, in one sense, You are already The Divine Godhead, and have been so forever. So You are already Whole & Complete, and can never not be that. It is just that You - as God - keep pretending not to *see It*. You must grasp, that what you call "your own thoughts & feelings of lack, fear and separation, etc." are ultimately identical to Love. It is something You do to Yourself - out of Love. You never do anything to Yourself that is ultimately not done out of Love. You always Love Yourself Infinitely in Infinitely many ways (granted, sometimes twisted, from an ego-point-of-view.) If You can grasp that, become that, you literally become One with The Godhead, i.e: with Yourself. You become Absolutely Free. This is Liberation. Because: God can't fucking take it! The Shining Diamond Luminosity of Her own Infinite Boundless Love destroys even Himself. It is too much. Way too much! ... Until it isn't. It is more comfy, fun & exciting -- He has tricked Herself into believing -- to keep pretending to be a "poor little me." And that is even if that poor little me is a human person who believes she has everything figured out, but is in fact stuck -- to his own complete oblivion -- in a classic neo-nihilistic "nothing matters, there is no-one here, nothing to gain, nothing to lose, everything is whole&complete"-web-of-beliefs-perspective. _______________________________________________________ Final words to everyone reading: Everything matters. Nothing is happening out of chance or by accident. Every single event in your life -- no matter how evil/bad it may seem -- is happening due to My Love. (A Love you probably cannot grasp (until you can)). There is "someone" here! You! God! Me! Know that. I am Intelligent beyond Intelligent. Loving beyond Loving. I am in every single experience of anyone and anything. Trust Me: There is everything beyond everything for you to gain. (It is always worth it a million times.) Absolutely speaking, yes, there is nothing to lose. Except until there is! Of course, there is something to lose: Me! ?? And I'm still being lost for most souls on this Earth-planet. Please don't lose Me forever. ??? * I am fully aware that many of you don't feel whole and complete, and that, currently, civilization on Earth do not appear whole & complete & loving. (Far from it, to be frank). But do not fear. Trust and have faith in Me. Keep loving, keep looking inward, keep seeking, keep widening your consciousness, keep working. ?? ❤️ We will get 'There', eventually. Together as One. Stay strong. Oneness is what is. ✨ Love from God ❤️❤️❤️ * ;-)

all events are perfection death isn't bad but, realize, that if you kill yourself, it will be an action of ego, and not an action that will lead to self-realization (awakening/god-realization). Not that actions by ego are bad by any means. they just doesn't lead to happiness. and if you want happiness, don't act out of ego. what can happen when you die? life life-death, it's the same thing When you die, you will be born again in a new avatar-body. Death doesn't awaken you. Awakening (realizing the perfection of God/yourself) can only happen: Now.

Nah Still funniest clip on entire YT (which also makes it the best)

She desires to lose her ego completely and merge with you to oneness Unconsciously as fuck ofc (due to ego xD) How to proceed? We can end the thread now if you just watch the two videos. There's nothing more to be said. Get to work brother

as long as you feel you are caught, you will remain caught don't try to run away from yourself don't try at all no effort is needed sure what you are going through feels painful, I can only imagine but is there anything wrong with pain? noooooooooo! <3 dive in brother all there is needed is awareness/consciousness, courage and honesty. nothing else observe and do.

meaningless words. but on point as always

Heroine isn't a hindrance to joy I'd say. I bet it's the opposite=D My addictions isn't necessary. Breathing and eating food isn't necessary. Nothing is ultimately necessary. If I want to continue living in this avatar of waveintheocean, sure, breathing is necessary. Do I want to continue living? Yes. As a matter of fact, it often even doesn't feel like I have a choice or like it is something I do. Just like breathing.

I know the lyrics are pointing towards a love relationship with a human being (she has a hard time letting go of the past and trusting a new partner). However, I feel that the lyrics can also be seen as a struggle for self-love... to find again that inner child-like energy/play/child that just exudes love to existence.

quoted for truth brother. <3 "The path that does not lead to the Heart is an illusion" "Only that which is loved is understood".

I am enlightened and I'm addicted to MANY things. The most obvious one is: life. I'm addicited to limiting myself to exist as this human form, I'm currently imagining myself to play. This means I'm addicited to: - breathing (my number one addiction, oh god, I love this one...Breathing, wauw man! You should try it) - water and food (also high on my list, food is nice) - sunlight (also a favorite addiction of mine) - social contact from time to time (it's just so fun playing with other imaginary characters - I can't help myself ). - sex from time to time, either jerking off or doing it with a beautiful woman... cos why not, it's nice! - sleeping (not that I like it that much, but I have to, to live) - many more things. Of course, ego will now say that the above things are "good addictions" and that tobacco and alcohol are "bad addictions". But this is the job of the ego -- discriminating between things -- not the job of Love. From Love's perspective there exist only Love, and tobacco and alcohol is just as much Love as breathing and water is. The above listed things we tend to label as "good", even though they are obvious hard-core addictions. They are "good" addictions -- according to ego -- because they help the body and mind thrive and survive. It is the ego's main task to make sure the mind and body and social persona always survive. Not only survive, but thrive! Gotta get that genes carried on together with nice genes from a stunning partner, am I right? <3 But, ultimately, from a totally 100% objective standpoint: What is wrong with smoking tobacco everyday or drinking 1 L of vodka everyday? It kills you, you say? But then may I ask: what is wrong with death?? Why do you prefer life over death? What is the difference between life and death? Is there any difference? When you keep asking why-questions like this, you come to a point where you realize that what you really are is just that: a (fucking) survival machine. All your values, beliefs, way of behaviour, thoughts, ideas, are not yours (in the sense that you voluntarily created/made them up) -- they are adoptations from other egos. This is the first step of self-realization. Then, next, you can realize that this survival machine (body, mind, ego) luckily enough is not your true nature, but is just imagination. And that you are *that* which imagines (Love, God, Consciousness). "But enlightenment for me is the joy of being, no need to do anything about a craving. Acting on a craving is immediately taking you out of the present moment. " Depends. If you try to hold your breath for some time, don't you soon feel a strong, strong craving to breathe out? Does this take you out of the present moment? What is the difference between acting on this craving of breathing delicious air and then a craving for a cigarette filled with delicious nicotine? ... Of course, I see where you are coming from. People who are not awake and addicted to e.g. alcohol/heroine, they use alcohol/heroine to run away from their own mind, because their mind is filled with so much fear, worry, regret, shame and other negative self-thoughts. By running away from their mind they actually get into the present moment by using these drugs. I haven't tried heroine, but I'm sure it's very blissful, much like a state of pure nirvana. Of course, the trick of life is to reach nirvana without being dependent on external conditions. Because external conditions are always that: dependent, limited, not-real, imaginary, impermanent. So those hardcore addicts have to run into their fear (not using) in order to go through the pain needed to awaken. Psychedelics helps, sure. A lot. "Hm... well as I progress on my own journey it's really hard to do anything bad to myself. Excessive eating would not be possible for example, I don't perceive caffeine as something bad but would not be able to drink 5+ cups per day. Basically obsessive, excessive, addictive behaviour is not compatible with awakening, at least not for me. Not because I judge it, not at all, but because the drive/compulsion is weakened. " Awakened beings are perfect! So are unawakened beings! Jesus was perfect. The dude on my street using heroine every day is just as perfect as jesus. Perfection is all there is. Only egos see non-perfection. Anyway, relatively speaking, I'm glad on your behalf, that you are in a state of mind, where you have a hard time doing anything "bad" to yourself. Self-love, even though this in the beginning refers to love to the illusory separate self, is pretty fundamental if one wants to awaken. At least during some part of the path. I have a hard time doing it as well. But this may change. It doesn't matter. You see, your judgment of excessive, addictive behaviour being incompatible with awakening is a thought that comes from ego. Love doesn't judge. But in any case, I still resonate with you. When you truly, truly are awakened beyond awakened, all dualistic concepts in mind and heart collapse to One. This means you see your own life as the same as God's life. Your life = God's life Life = Heaven The relative = The Absolute No difference between any dualistic oppositions. It's all One. And therefore, of course, you want to treat your body like it's a body of God. This means, yes, exercising, eating healthy and doing other healthy things, including not being addicited to anything too harmful (heroine, alcohol and so on). Caffeine is to be honest pretty harmless, but still, I limit myself to one cup on the morning, and nothing else. I don't want to be dependent on anything. God wouldn't like that/That wouldn't be God-like. And I am God And yet I'm addicited to breathing and food. LOL Love <3

LOL. Dark nights of Mind. Dark nights are the work of ego, not mind. Mind is a tool. Ego wants to use it for hate/darkness (in order to survive). Love wants to use it for love. Every fear, negative thought and negative emotion in your body is a result of ego. fucking fool <3

Yes. This is it. All guys, you see it? You shouldn't do "pick-up" / date girls because you want sex or w/e. You should do it, because it is an extremely important part of self-development for a man, also if you want to become enligthened/awake. Of course, sex is a nice carrot/bonus, don't forget that, but that's not the primary objective here. The feeling you get after overcoming one of your worst fears is identical to the feeling you have 24/7 when you have truly awakened. True peace, true confidence, freedom. Insecure men/virgins/many dudes they have an extreme fear of rejection. The hotter/the more interested they are in a girl, the more extreme the fear becomes "but what if she rejects me?" What to do? Step 1. Realize that the fear of rejection is 100% irrational. Either she says "yes" to you, or she says "no" to you. In either case you haven't lost anything, and in the first case you have gained something. You GOT NOTHING TO LOSE. Be brave man. Go into that fear and let it destroy you/enlighten you. Even in the second case, you only gain something: PAIN. And pain forces you to learn and reflect and develop. Step 2. Do it. And everytime you get rejected, just say fuck it and try again. Of course it hurts, Don't deny that. But pain is the messenger, and the message is: Wake up! The more pain you go through in your life, the closer you are to awaken. No kidding. start today

the same as guys do. self-development. Nothing is sexier than a girl who is awake/extremely intelligent/shows no fear =D of course some fear she has to show in intimate moments, otherwise the man (the masculine ego) will feel useless=D