WaveInTheOcean

Daniel Schmachtenberger's dad: https://civilizationemerging.com/what-i-learned-about-being-a-man-from-my-dad/

Of course, everything is imaginary, including you and me as persons/human beings, our brains, the psychedelic molecules. Yes, yes. But that doesn't change the fact that there are some mechanics in play inside this dream that determines whether the dreamed-up character will awaken or not. Yes, even those mechanics (physical laws, brain chemistry, genetics, molecules) are imaginary, but thet are still very very valid within the context of the dream (life).

Consider how DMT (and other pyshcedelics for that matter) "work" when you ingest them into your body... What happens? Well - the molecules attach to receptors THAT YOUR BRAIN HAS CREATED - those receptors getting activated then in turn activates certan neural pathways / network THAT YOUR BRAIN HAS CREATED - the activation of those networks/neural pathways ( firing of specific brain cells ) then results in "the psychedelic experience" So while psychedelics are immensly powerful tools -- hacks -- of course it should be obvious that it's possible to have profound experiences without pyschedelics, giving the right brain, right genetics, right chemistry, right upbringning, right practice (meditation and so on). Heck, science is about to unravel that the human brain is producing DMT. We just don't know in what amounts and for what function / the mechanics of it.

In regards to suffering. My man Daniel Schmachtenberger spitting some truth:

Thank you for reading <3

I'm delighted to hear you enjoyed the read. <3 Jon Hopkins is great and yeah Luminous Beings is actually composed with a DMT trip in mind, hehe (google it, you can find a interview with him). I'd say all suffering in the world, on an individual or collective level, is always either directly or indirectly transformed into healing eventually. It's hard to convey into words how. But let's take the Holocaust as an example. That's some serious suffering. Yet, ultimately -- even though I don't deny how horrible it was, and how much evil was involved in the holocaust -- we can today be relieved/glad/happy that the Holocaust happened, in the sense that it has been extremely instructive and teaching for us as a collective race. We have now global infrastructures in play that makes sure this is very unlikely to ever happen again. Holocaust teached us all how much evil can spawn if you stomp a nation of people (Germany was fucked after WW1). It teached us how much evil can happen if you blindly follow a charismatic man (the danger of propaganda) and if you blindly follow an ideology without some serious self-reflection. We should cheer for all those people (God) who went through that suffering during WWII. Just gigantic amounts of healing they made happen on a collective level through their suffering (God's suffering). On a more personal level, I had a suicidal depression this winter from october-february. Really hellish. I suffered a lot mentally. Like a fucking lot. Now, when I look back at it (I couldn't see it then of course) I see this period as actually -- on a higher level -- a very teaching, humbling, instructive and healing experience. It has learned me a lot to go through it. Last summer I was very Zen Devilish, believing I was invulnerable, denying I could ever suffer again, I had a lot of spiritual ego on the inside (and also on the outside to some extent). I was arrogant. I was naive. I was in for a rude awakening. I denied my shadow. So much consciousness (cos I was really in what I'd call close to God-consciousness for many weeks/months during the summer from May until September, had a deep deep trip on 2CB back in May), yet at the same time also so much unconsciousness, so much ego still to be transcended, still so much to learn, still more to integrate, especially my shadow. My depression thus taught me a lot. Today right now as I'm writing this, I'm very aware that yes, while I'm on the one hand feeling amazing and whole and at peace, I also acknowledge that I'm not invulnerable. I'm not calling myself enlightened like I did back then. I'm aware of my shadow and accepting it. I accept all the negative thoughts that might come up during the day. I accept my OCD-thoughts. I accept I might get depressed again. I accept that I have more to learn. I accept I need to integrate a lot of stuff still. I basically accept my humanity, even though I might feel like I'm more than that (God:D).

I think I will make a youtube video (or write a long post) soon answering your questions and more. Thank you for reading and commentating @somegirl @Gili TrawanganTrawanganTrawanganTrawangan (smartphone bug lol) If you have more questions feel free to ask them here. Bipolargrowth, @space , frenk, bogdan ?❤️??

You should believe any story that makes you happy. That's all I can say. How we each feel on the inside (deep inside) is - after all - what matters most in this work of self-actualizing. If believing that the universe is a dumb automatic physical machine, and that your life is a happy random biological unprobable accident, and that your whole existence is basically just some random time spent between the maternity clinic and the undertaker, well, if THAT makes you happy, then all is well. Personally I had that belief since I was a kid -- I was an hardcore atheist with top grades in math, chemistry, biology and physics in highschool, hated the humanities -- until my early 20s (26 now) and that belief system made me miserable on the inside. Now 5 years later, I have changed it to what we could call Idealism, and I've never been more at peace. Each to his own, believe what makes ya happy. Anything else seems rather pointless. Good luck bro.

Haha I love you man. You're the only reasonable guy left on this forum. Anyone believing what I wrote are insane. Your skepticism is good. Love ya bro❤️?

Hehe it seems to me we actually kind of agree. Yes, you could say two opposites (i.e. hate, love, or consciousness, physical, nothingness, something, etc) are two aspects of the same thing, i.e. "IT"/Source/GOD/LOVE/The Dao That Can't Be Spoken!:-) What can I say: reality is 'dual-non-dual'. Words are just pointers ?, remember that. Not the Truth. Not the actual thing. Direct experience is needed. Pointers are fine tho. Reality is *smashes a gong* and we will not give it a name;)

Bump - any1 actually tried shamanic breathing while already tripping their balls off?:-)

I like to use the term 'Oneness' for God/Love/Non-duality But it's true, in a sense 'oneness'/'monoism' implies "zero" or "two". Non-duality - as a concept vs monism - is more 'hardcore' in that it more directly points to the fact that everything is undivided, 'one without two", everything absolutely "IT" (God/Consciousness/etc.) Yet we could say even the term Non-duality implies 'Duality' ? but duality is only an apparant reality, actually 'unreal', actually non-dual, love, god, -- just your mind dividing reality up into individual pieces, in order for the Mayadream to go on, in order to survive, in order to try and make sense of it all, even tho it's an impossible task hehe, cos it's Infinite, its all just God/Oneness. Just your imagination as God:-) Read the eng wiki on Non-duality if you're interested. To sum up, monism and Non-duality are VERY related concepts, two different flavour of words almost pointing to the same "thing" :-) Non-duality more directly points to the fact that all opposites 'go together", i.e. yin yang ☯️, good evil, life death, etc... Apparant opposites, yet completely inseparable (=you can't have one without the other = they are ultimately completely identical. Evil is Good. Hate is Love. Something is Nothing. Up is Down. Darkness is Light. Ego is God. Death is Life. And so on:-))

I'd stop it cos I like to imagine my dream-character as a good guy exuding love in every thought and. action. Even though everything that happens is fundamentally Pure Love, some things in the relativistic domain (life of being a human) "align more" with that Truth than others. Rape doesn't align very well. Stopping rape does. It's fine to contemplate and all.. but yeah, ethics and rules are something we need as a society to guide all of us that haven't realized Oneness. Thank Jesus and so on =) To intervene God's desire to rape or not to; yes both things are love. BUT, you see, the desire God has to intervene God raping God is also love. And in this dream of life we're living intervening/not raping is "a higher game-goal" than raping/not-intervening. You see, God is playing a game of hide'n'seek. God hides and wants to find himself. He will put all kinds of hurdles in the middle-game of looking around. But the ultimate goal is to find Itself. Some of those hurdles are rape, murder and other bad/evil things. God will deliberately let those hurdles play out to make it all more exciting, but ultimately, the goal is to find Herself. And It cannot find Itself if It keeps inflicting pain onto Himself. Ultimately, the ultimate singularity/all-embracing awakening can only happen when all dream-characters in God's imagination have seen the Truth (God/Oneness/Love) and they can't see it, if they keep hurting each other:) When you awaken, you realize Oneness is always the case, and could never not be the case. Oneness implies that what You fundamentally Are is 100% equal to an other dream character running around in the dream. So you raping another person is fundamentally You raping Yourself. You don't want to inflict unnecessary suffering onto yourself. You stopping a rapist (in the best most non-violent/appropriate manner) = less suffering than letting that rapist "do his thing". Cos the vicitim (=You) would probably suffer immensely if that rape happened.

Hehe. So you say there is a past and future here right now? In this present moment? There is a past? A future? Show me it. Notice, there is actually only the present mont. Right Now. And in this eternal infinite space of the Now, yes, all sorts of thoughts appear. Some of those thoughts perpeptuates the illusion of so-called 'past' or so-called 'future'. You think "Oh I have to get up 8'o'clock tomorrow". Or you think "Jeez, my girlfriend was a jerk yesterday when she yelled at me". Both are just thoughts. Happening in The Now. No past. No future. To be found. Only this present moment. There is actually nowhere to go and you came from nothing either. That you were born out of your mothers belly is again: a thought happening in the present moment. Hehe. Even if they filmed the birth and showed it to you, then again, this film you are now watching in the present moment, what you do is that you attach your identity to that group of pixels on the screen appearing as a baby (to you), and you say "oh that was me 25 years ago!"... Well, another thought. But if you believe the thought, the thought almost becomes true. Thoughts are so powerful. Believes immensly powerful. They basically shape your reality and life and behaviour 24/7. What happens when you let go of thoughts? Consider that your current experience of "reality" right now is also just a dream. Consider that it is possible to wake up from it and say "oh puh jeez, it's all just a dream, puh, nothing to arrive to, nothing to depart from." :>

"How did the nondual become dual?" is a good question. The answer is profound. The answer is basically that it never did :-) The non-dual ( = God = Reality = Love = You = I = Infinite Consciousness = This! = The Now) is always non-dual. It can't be anything else than be itself, i.e. non-dual. Now, duality -- good, evil, light, dark, pain, joy, all that jazz -- is just imagination. That's the best answer I can give you. And the source of that imagination is You as God as Love. God is Infinite Love-Imagination, you could say. What creates the apparant duality is absolutely speaking you as God. On a more relative level, it's the ego-body-mind's job of putting an overlay of concepts (dualities) onto the world. Try to notice how you constantly, rather unconsciously does that. You label everything in your experience. It happens mostly unconsciously. Has to do with survival. A tiger has to be seen as 'bad' cos it can kill you, while a dog can be seen as 'good' cos it can help you mind magic mushrooms:> It's all just Love/God tho.

Haha I love you! <3 Wauw, thank you for your kind words (my still somewhat insecure ego really likes to read that). I wrote all these words very, very quickly. I just had to get them out of my system. It's great for me to get my inner experiences written down. Helps with integration. But I'm sorry for all the typos. I mostly just write this stuff out of egoic reason (my own integration), but I must say it's also a joy to share with others. Really warms my heart to read your kind responses, and glad to hear you found it pleasant/exciting/useful to read, even tho it went fast! :-) Love you! <3

Thank you for your words. Yes, you're right. Embodying it is the where the hard work lies! Much love.

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I must admit I surely did Surprised it could get deeper, but of course it could. Same "core insight" (of Love/God/Infinite Consciousness), just pounded a few inches deeper into your soul, hehe. Through my by now +10 DMT trips, I must say it's interesting to note how the "eyeflasing popping visuals" seem to be subdued. There were still some visuals, and my imagination was free and infinite (could imagine whatver I wanted, and I would literally become it, during the trip. Oh, I was a blue whale for a short period of time. Also a woman getting fucked by a guy. Interesting exp. Was lots of things now I that i think of it) but basically the visuals weren't that "impressive". The impressive part was how deep the experience was, how gigantic the Love pouring into "my soul" was, and how widened my consciousness was. Sure, there was a feeling of being in deep spiritual communication with some very intelligent beings teaching me a thing or two (or showing me things, showing off, having fun with me out of Love), but it was also very clear for me that these "DMT beings" were just "my own" imagination as God. It's also obvious to me now, that if you have a bad trip (on say, DMT) the fundamental reason for that bad trip to occur, was because your ego/mind/soul/body couldn't/wouldn't accept that much Love. Tried that some months ago (absolute hell/nightmare/pure soulfire). Very, very unpleasent. But humbling and instructive for sure. It was obvious for me during the trip that I was omni-potent (all powerful), all-knowing and all-things/beyond time. I was. I am. Still am. But it was also clear that everything happening in the Now is a result of that. (( I.e.: I want to live as WaveInTheOcean not knowing the future, being limited. That's what I fucking want, otherwise I wouldn't experience it! And I want to experience it cos it's fucking beautiful to not know the future. It's exciting. It's fucking beautiful to going around as a an apparant separate self interacting with "others"... it's so immensely exciting if you can let go of fear (which you can if you wake up:)) its ultimately just pure fucking love <3 ))) For some brief moments during the trip I was thinking "Oh great. Well I would like to manifest a piano in front of me, and also cure my near-sightnedness and also be brilliant top10 world piano player, let's go!" .. and then afterwards, still tripping, what I then realized was: 1. I can get an operation for curing my near-sightedness (free for me in Denmark, just lazy / corona) 2. The actual way inside the dream of manifesting the piano would simply be buy buying one. That you can buy one, that a piano exists is already in and by itself pure magic. 3. I am already a great piano player. All the piano players alive and ever lived, I am fucking those. I am everyone here on this forum. Everything I want, I already have/am. The thinking "GIVE ME PIANO UBER SKILLZ OR LET ME FLY OR SWIM WITH THE WHALES WITHOUT NEED FOR AIR!" is just a line of thinking that happens when the ego-mind-body and God-consciousness merge... The separate self is seen to be an illusion, yet deep down the ego still screams for X and Y. Haha. But you also know that you actually already have all those infinite powers and skills. Either through other humans/animals (= You) or in other dimensions. I even lived briefly in those dimensions, haha. So magical. So Good. Words fail.

thank you from the bottom of my heart for this video. so simple, yet so complex. so ineffable yet always expressed. Reality is God is Love is 'All-There-Is' is ineffeable, yet always the case <3 <3 <3

I think we are splitting hairs now, but you got a point. I wrote something about non-duality last summer when I was in a state of mania:

I actually guess he meant "This has nothing to do with stuck, “i” am not more awaken than you are, nor being stubborn." ... i.e. that he forgot a 'not'. If he didn't, then yeah, that is getting exposed I suppose =DDDDD James haha my man. You don't say you are more awaken than others. You show that through actions and words, not by saying it! <3

True. Or that mind and matter are two aspects of the same "one thing" (hence monism). From the eng wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monism

Simply put. Well said.

This was especially powerful: <3 <3 <3 Reminds me of Matt Khans book "Whatever Arises, Love That". "if you are lucky enough to find a way of life you love, you have to find the courage to live it"