WaveInTheOcean

you have to let go of victimhood and realize suffering is not something that happens to you, but something that is self-inflicted. Of course, from a relative standpoint, lots of bad things can happen to you (eg. born with a terrible mom/dad, a tree can fall onto your house, you could be born as an african child, born blind, born as jew in Germany 70 years ago etc etc etc) ... BUT that all those things are "bad", are your own selfish interpretation of them. You want them to cause you to suffer. Suffering is always self-inflicted, but this a pretty advanced teaching/realization that is somewhat hard to "understand" / realize. Why is it to hard to realize/understand? Because the ego sits on the first row of the theater screaming "SUFFERING IS BAD AND IT AINT MY DOING. SUFFERING IS HAPPENING TO POOR LITTLE ME BY THE CRUEL OUTSIDE WORLD!" and most peepz identify with that voice, and I don't blame them. I sometimes do too. Hard not to. It screams so loud man. High levels of consciousness/Self-Love is needed to filter it out/transcend it. ... That is to say you have to be on a high vibration energetically (ohh that hippie lingo, all stage orange peez are running away screaming now.. I know, cos I've been there:D) to get it.

Reality is Love. How could it be otherwise, when you think about it? I mean what IS *THIS* really? Why is there something? Why isn't everything just absolute pure nothingness/chaotic energy? Why did "The Big Bang" occur? Why did it occur in such a way -- with specifically fine-tuned natural laws/universal constants -- that allowed it to transform into galaxies with stars and planets and even planets spawning complex, sentient, intelligent, even fucking self-reflecting life? After all, you and I, from a material standpoint/realist-standpoint are just fucking atoms. Atoms. Dead matter. There exist no "life-matter". Your carbon atoms are the same carbon atoms found in stones and dirt. But yet, these carbon-atoms, these delicately arranged dance/patterns/structures of protons and electrons turned into something that is capable of self-awareness. How FUCKING AMAZING is that? WHY IS IT HAPPENING? And now that it is happening, don't you think it makes logically sense that it is optimized for Love? I mean why would it be optimized for anything other than Love? I mean I know athiests/rationalists/scientists likes to say that yes, it is interesting that the fundamental constants are what they are, cos even slight deviations would mean physical life isn't possible. But then they still say it's just random:D And yeah I get it, life is pretty brutal at times. Think about how brutal it was 5000 years ago when we lived in cages. Or how brutal it is right now for the african kids who starve every night. It's fucking brutal man. But it has to be. Brutal/at-ease is a duality that's ultimately just Love. Just like all other dualities. Hitler-Ghandi. Evil-Goodness. Hate-Love. It's all just Love man. All of it. It's a realization. Not a belief. And I can't communicate it to you, cos it cannot be communicated. Only felt/realized. But I still tried cos im a sick fuck

The power of the Now ❤️????

And yet, my shadow-denier-brother, you are indeed turning not-knowing into an ideology by being so stubborn/slightly narrow-minded in your views ? You see, "I" don't disagree with "you". I actually fully agree with you! And what a relief to find out the separate self is just an imaginary thought/idea. What a relief it is to find out that birth and death are illusory. What a gigantic relief it is to find out everything is just nothingness and that what I truly am is just 'isness", Nothingness, Love, God, The Dao That Can't Be Spoken! What a relief! Let's swim and bathe in this great sea of Nothingness, of not-knowing, of being completely at peace, completely free. Let us celebrate! Or just celebrate! There is no 'us', hell, there isn't even anything to celebrate! And "to celebrate" is just another thought! There is nothing to do, nowhere to get to. Everything just is. Perfection. Absolute Divine Perfection. No. Not even that. Words are just pointers. Let's not name it... "Reality is: ... *smashes a gong-gong* ... and we won't give it a name" said Alan Watts. (And yet, here we are on this forum. What da fuck are we doing? Oh yes, "I" forgot: I don't exist, neither does James, nothing is going on here!) __________ When you say that this dream, this life, this existence, this magical maya-fantasy -- full of dualities such as birth & death, love and hate, success and failure, music and silence -- is *just* a thought, you simultaneously seem to deny the insane amount of intelligence and absolute pure magic behind it all. All paths that doesn't lead to the Heart are illusory/falsehood/not-it. James, you are like the dude in this cartoon: ? Isn't it insanely profound to think about what all this is (even if it's seen as nothingness) ?? Isn't it insanely profound that it's possible to be completely unconsciously lost in all this? Like an actor getting so immersed in her role, she forgets she's acting. And what's even more magical is that it is possible to awaken from it all. To see it all for what it is: play, Leela, nothingness, God, Love, pure Infinite Consciousness. Isn't it mystical as fuck that it's even possible for this 'realization' to occur? You seem to try really hard to 'take the magic out of' // 'deny the magic of' REALiTY/EXiSTENCE ... why? I mean, why is there anything (even if it is nothing) ... Why? How does it work? What are the mechanics involved? Does it serve any purpose? "Camus said there is only really one serious philosophical question, which is whether or not to commit suicide. I think there are four or five serious philosophical questions: The first one is: Who started it? The second is: Are we going to make it? The third is: Where are we going to put it? The fourth is: Who's going to clean up? And the fifth: Is it serious?" - Alan Watts

"When there is not-knownng there is not not-knowing" , hehe, I like it. But when there is knowing, there id not knowing! ??? I have learned lots of things. I have for once learned to read and write in English, otherwise "We" couldn't have this discussion! But it's true: in a sense I have nothing learned, cos there is no I (except the God-Nothingness-I we could say), and all our words here are just meaningless banter! But if you ask me to imagine what is left, if I unlearn all my learning, then this is a mentally exercise, and what is left is some imaginary concept/idea of not having learned anything... and that isn't "it" ! But it's a fun and probably useful pointer/exercise to "get" to that which can't be attained, but what always IS. Peace ❤️

@James123 whats up brother ? It's funny to see these discussions between you and Leo. It is like two people standing looking at a coin ('Truth'), and one saying "the coin is heads!" and the other: "the coin is tails!" ... But of course the coin is neither, but both! It seems like Leo's view is slightly more embracing of both sides of the coin. But anyway. All dualities must merge/collapse into one, including the dualities: nothingness-thingness being-notbeing notknowing-knowing It might be a mindfuck for ya, but it turns out, that ultimately, not-knowing and knowing are completely identical. What a relief! Oneness remains. God forbid separation ? *non* - *duality* you know! Or don't know. It doesn't matter --- yet it does!! ? But I get ya. For people stuck in "knowing things" (most ppl these days), they need to "learn to unlearn" & to appreciate and practice not-knowing, if they want to get anywhere spiritually/emotionally. Once you see the power and beauty of pure beingness, not-knowing, you can then once again incorporate 'knowing' into your "life", cos you now see that the two opposites are One. Not to worship Leo, but I think the guy understands the perspective (not-knowing), you're speaking from. After all Leo's favorite book to bring on a remote island is The Book of Not Knowing by Ralston... with some DMT crystals sprinkled inside the cover of course, preferably pluggable crystals ?

Consider how the world would look like if everyone had literal infinite power. (Hint: the world wouldn't exist) A dream must have boundaries/rules for it to manifest itself. That's the intelligence of you/God.

Remember, the only one actually experiencing the suffering is God Itself (Oneness). Now, why would God willingly imagine experiences/lives where He/She/It goes through a lot of suffering? The answer is probably the same as to why you would go watch a sad/violent/horror movie. Excitement. Contrast. How can I know Goodness, Love, Happiness, Joy, Bliss if those 'goodies' were all I was experiencing 24/7 ?? I wouldn't appreciate the Good, just as a fish doesn't appreciate/knows the water, since water is all it knows. Listen to Alan Watts in this marvelous song

They can only be inflammatory if your immune system is overreacting (you're allergic to something). If your immune function is normal, then basically all plantbased foods (assuming it's whole) are antiinflammatory. Gotta get those ?

I feel every breath is a miracle. Every sight of clouds, sunshine, birds. Miracle, this existence is.

careful here. There is also the game of playing authentic. Believe it or not, some women are into authenticity and self-development, spirtuality etc. Maybe such a woman who are into these things doesn't care about any other games than being authentic, even though that is the hardest game to play. I get what you mean. The "standard" 18-30 year old stage blue/orange "girl" of course always plays by the book in dating. But... there are other women out there. Yes, it lies deep encoded into women's nature/personality to play/behave in certain predictable ways in regards to the game of mating. (same goes for men). But don't you believe it's possible to sort of become self-conscious of these patterns and transcend it? For both men and women.

MDMA removes all fear pretty much, yes. So it can show you how you would behave without fear. Which can be a profound experience. Of course it requires that you reflect both on and after the MDMA: What does it mean to be good at socializing? What do I want? What do other humans want? Why do we socialize? What is socializing? What is love? What is empathy? What is emotions? What is communication? Etc. Of course your ultimate goal is to be able to socialize like you're on MDMA, but sober. Using MDMA as a "hack" to show you how consciousness of mind feels with no fear can be a good learning experience. Yes, the "dangerous" thing about MDMA is that it feels so good that you might want to take it again. But MDMA is much less addicting than cocaine, heroine etc. Don't worry, it's not like you'll become physical dependent on it. Just use it wisely -- like other pyschedelics -- for growth. Research before using. Dose appropirately (125 mg with perhaps max 1 booster dose of 40 mg 1-2 hours in) and find 1-3 close friends who are open enough to try mind-manifesting substances. MDMA is a psychedelic. Just a special one. A powerful tool like all psychedelics.

It's a good pointer/analogy, but be careful: The concepts/analogies/explanationd that we like the most are often the ones that are hardest to let go of. And letting go of all maps is ultimately needed to become IT.

Humans don't realize all form is formless. That everything is nothing. That everything is an expression of God, Love ?

MDMA with some friends can be pretty pretty good

I don't think shamanic breathwork and psychedelics pairs nicely. Each is very intense. On psychedelics you need to let go. And consciously breathing heavily doesn't seem to me to help in that aspect

Ginger tea

Indeed. Very very very ugly. The more ugly/hellish it is/was, the more profound the mindfuck when it hits you your depression/'going-through-hell' was Infinite Love/your own doing/a deliberate choice (to learn and grow).

Let's say you are playing chess versus your girlfriend. In actuality, whether you win or lose makes no difference, except for the honor you either consciously or unconsciously project 'onto winning'. So, why play if it's all meaningless? Same goes with life. Why play? Why not just commit suicide if it's all ultimately pointless and meaningless?

Beautiful. Realizing that even the experience of hell is infinite love is one of the profoundest most beautiful mindfucks.

Oneness is such a beautiful experience (and insight).?

Thoughts is self-talk. Now, how did you learn to talk?

The OA (series on netflix) Devs (series on HBO)