WaveInTheOcean

By that logic why should you as a man have any idea what you as man is attracted to? In regards to sexuality, dating, relationships, attraction etc. I feel like you in 10-20 years will look back on your comments here and see them as rather childish and ignorant. It's not that you're wrong about what attracts a woman, it's just that Emeralds perspective is rather obviously more holistic. It contains your perspective AND expands it, clarifies, specifies, is more embracing. Emerald is basically saying yes to all what you're saying, but then also saying that there is another higher level to that. Obviously you going around hitting on LA girls in the street won't change your views. Go marry Teal Swan, then let's talk in 10 years. <3

It's about both:-) they don't exclude each other those two perspectives. Fundamentally spirituality is about becoming free. Free from the chains of ego, so that your true self can shine through perfectly. To say to a truamatized 25 year old suicidal girl with an eating disorder, or to a 40 year old male sociopath, that enlightenment/freedom is "already the case" and that they shouldn't seek anything but just rest in The Now, well, see how that goes for ya/them;-) It isn't wrong in theory. But fuck the theory alone. Go for pragmatism too! That which WORKS. Go for that. Cos that is what *matters*, not this retarded armchair philosophy, I'm getting sick of it ?? Be careful of spiritual bypassing/zen devilry/spiritual ego. It hits us all. Love ?

Everything is a dream imagined by a formless 'no-thing' we could call God which happens to be your true nature. (that formless no-thing is equal to everything you like to call something.)

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The two perspectives don't exclude each other as the rationalist logicians would like you to believe they do:-) Reality is non-dual but SEEMS dualistic (self-other etc.). Self-realization needs to occur. It's a gradual path with possible break-throughs on the way there. You are "IT" (we can call it Nothingness, Oneness, The Universe, Nature, God, Consciousness, Awareness, Love, Dao, Source, Absolute, Infinity, The Eternal Dreamer, The Selfless Self, w/e floats your boat). But IT has tricked (willingly ofc) Itself into believing Its true nature is a <separate self // dream character // human person> stuck in an outside/external 'world' that doesn't give a damn about you. :-) There is SOMEONE 'to awaken': fucking YOU! Haha. Otherwise you wouldn't be here asking questions! That 'Someone' you can call 'no one', if you want -- although I personally think a more holistic word is to call It God?️ You're God. Wakey wakey over there;) As long as you *feel* like you're 'a form', a thing, a separate self, a concept or a social construct, you aren't enlightened, but still in the invisible chains of ego. It's true that when you then finally fully awaken, you can clearly see that you've actually been just as much IT/God, as you are after awakening. Of course! There truly only IS IT(God). Everything We imagine to not be IT but 'separate, form, divided, apart, different' is exactly that: IMAGINATION (Your Imagination as God! In other words: GOD) Hehe. But until then, until your soul&mind& ego is fully in the light of Your Divine Awareness, you're asleep, right? Asleep as in: you feel mortal. You feel impermanent. You feel separate. You feel like you lack z, x and y. You feel scared. Your inner world is in tension, conflict. You don't feel at peace. You suppress a lot of stuff coming up inside you, because you're scared. And you're scared because you still believe you can die, like something can actually go wrong. That mistakes are actually possible. Imagine for a moment that your experience RIGHT NOW as you're reading these lines and nodding your head...is a DREAM. That it is something You're dreaming, and that you can (and will, sooner or later) wake up from it, exactly like waking up in your bed after a terrible scary night-dream in which a lot of mistakes/wrong-doings were happening. You would wake up and say "pyh! Oh boy! I'm glad all that shit was just a dream and not real! Oh God, haha, wauw - let me get a cup of coffee and enjoy the blue sky." ? ? ?️? So, go with how you feel. ????️⛓️?♾️⚛️??????? In this human life-dream, however, you don't get to wake *up from* the dream. Only physical death does that, of course. However, you can 'still die before you die' and realize -- INSIDE the Dream! -- that IT IS in fact A fucking DREAM ? Awakening/enlightenment is a kind of Lucid Dreaming! You know that you're dreaming, but the dreaming doesn't stop, whereas before enlightenment you just weren't aware of the fact that you were dreaming ;-) ??♾️⚛️??? Good luck, I'm sure you'll get there.

Your mate tom https://youtube.com/c/TomZ3M The Quentin experiment https://youtube.com/c/TheQuentinExperiment (Both above are pyschonauts and have great yt channels with top psychedelic content, both are openminded and responsible about their use of psychedelics, yet both are funnily still kinda stock in the materialistic worldview, but not in a very dogmatic way). Prince EA (this dude is mainstream as fuck but seems kind of woke) https://youtube.com/c/PrinceEa Bentinho Rupert Spira, aaron abke! (This guy is very woke) https://youtube.com/c/AaronAbke After Skool https://youtube.com/c/AfterSkool This dude has 2 mil subs and is great at drawing. Would be cool if you two did a collab where you speak (voice over) and he draws the pictures. I am pretty sure he would be open for such a collab. You'd just have to agree on a topic. He's very spiritually minded. This would be a great way to boost your own channel's popularity.

Nice man! Might order his book. I also just posted the rebel wisdom vid in the High Consciousness sub. About the no-middleman part , hehe, if you ain't a top chemist yourself you kind of DO need a middle man sometimes if you know what i mean:-)

seems like we became strangers. I thought we were One. Friends. Brothers. ... :-'( going to bed now. i'm actually sorry if I was disrespectful. I get some kind of mania some times, as you can all see. Sorry. Actually just trying to help, and maybe deepen my own understanding by writing it down. You all have great questions and are all great 'initiators' of thoughts inside this imaginary vessel we call WaveInTheOcean... Sometimes the one who needs help is the one trying to help... hehe :~) Love ya all. Good night <3 - @Raptorsin7 thank you for your kind words <3

You really have something with words Forestlove. I like it. .. @Someone here maybe transform your rage/energy into some physical activity. running comes to mind. often, when we are the most stuck in conceptual thinking, we can't see it. We are so immersed in the conceptual patterns of thinking, like a fish immersed in water, that we don't see the full picture: the ocean. We replace direct experience with concepts, believing our words and thoughts are direct experience. Often we project onto others that THEY are the ones doing the conceptual thinking, ... "while me? hah, no one here bro! just pure being!" ... It seems like you are close to a break-through. A breaking point. Slamming your head against the walls in your special unique watery 'pool of logical thinking'. Sooner or later those walls will break! Either that, or perhaps you will see you could just jump out of the pool --- aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh that feeling. wauw <3

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Haha I love you bro. Sorry if I offended you (your ego). Shit happens sometimes, you know? It is just God/Love though. Also I thought you blocked me. Why read nonsense, just block me and get on with your life. Good luck <3 But If I'm being honest, you should really go out and take a walk and take a chill pill and reread my comments again when your emotions are chilled. I'm not trying to put you down or spread nonsense or anything. Stay open <3

You have to realize/see -- or just be open to the possiblity -- that THIS LIFE (YOUR LIFE) is actually Your own completely free choice. You chose everything you've ever experienced as mr. xxxx. It was all planned out. Your doing. Intelligence. This Life/Dream/Maya HAS rules. It has boundaries. YOU CREATED THESE RULES! You CREATED THE BOUNDARIES! You decided heavy metals were bad for the body. You decided not exercising was bad for your body-mind. You decided eating junk food all day was bad. Etc etc etc. You decided meditation was good for you. You decided psychedelics were hacks to realize Your True Self again. You decided eating spinach is healthy. You decided having sex from time to time is healthy. You decided socialzing with friends/gf/bf is healthy. You decided reading books is good. You decided contemplating is Good. Etc etc. The list goes on. THIS LIFE HAS RULES. YES THE RULES ARE IMAGINARY. BUT THAT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER AS LONG AS YOU DON't **FEEL** THAT THEY ARE IMAGINARY. You see? There's a difference between "believing/knowing" :: "oh the rules are imaginary, so they don't matter"... and then FEELING IT. BEING IT. You can't eat tuna all day and expect to become enlightened, cos those heavy metals will fuck your brain up. You can't conceptually sit in your house and masturbate all day and not ever socialize and expect to become enlightened, cos the human body-organism evolved from monkeys. We ARE SOCIAL CREATURES. We NEED connection, bonding, intimacy, belonging. And we need 'the beyond'. We need a sense of the divine, the ineffable, the mystery, the sublime. And we need 'becoming'. We need a sense of growth, path, direction, healing, purpose. The three B's: Belonging, Beyond, Becoming. If you deny any of these three B's, you are deluded, sorry to say it. A truly enlightened being doesn't supress or deny the humane parts of him / humanity. He builds on top of all the humane things inside of him (Belonging, Becoming, Beyond -> God), remains grounded, yet is also flying around in heaven simultaneously. Ground <--> Heaven, they are ultimately seen to be identical

You know who is truly drunk, psychotic, hallucinating his/her balls of? It's not guys or girls tripping their balls off on psychedelics (allthough that is also a kind of getting drunk, hallucinating, just a more mild kind) God imagning Itself as a separate human body-mind. Drunk on what? Himself. Her own Infinite Imagination -- so Infinite it is capable of imagining seemingly real finiteness/separateness/fragmentation.

Okay bro. Fair enough. I love you still tho, good luck in your pursuits <3 You shouldn't take anything I write here personal, I'm just having fun here :-) Love <3

A cat or a dog or an ape is fully content and fulfilled by an unreflected life. But animals aren't enlightened. They are only awake in heart, not in mind. Obviously. Just like small human kids (2-5 years old). They are often VERY VERY awake in heart. God, have you seen these jewels? They are so free: FULLY expressing WHATEVER arises: laughter, cry, rage, WHATEVER man, it just gets expressed. They are SO fucking immersed in The Now. EVERYTHING is exciting for them. That ant crawling in the sand? They see it and FEEL it as GOD. Haha. But are 2-5 year old kids enlightened? HELL FUCKING NO. They are cruel bastards, deeply asleep in MIND. But god are they amazing too; so awake in HEART. What happens the kids grow up? Social conditioning. Trauma. More ego. ... the result? They become asleep in Heart, but at least they have the brain capable of becoming both awakened in Mind and Heart, if they just follow the spiritual path with enough authenticity for Truth/Freedom and don't care about eternal suffering (cos that will come before Actual Enlightenment, if you're serious enough). Look at Jesus or Buddha, was their life-histories free of suffering? Hell fucking no. Did they transcend all of it (transmuting it into Love, revealing its true nature) when they finally Awakened? Hell fucking yes. You are always living in the present moment fully. You can never not do that. You ARE The Present Moment. The only difference between Buddha and you is that Buddha is fully AWARE (not only in mind, but also in heart) of IT: that he is THAT, that he LIVES in that. Reality is Love/God. You either feel and see that, or you don't. That's the difference between being enlightened or not. Simple as that. End of discussion <3 The spiritual bypassing here is astonding. Wauw bro. This is some next level zen-devilry neo-advaita no-self nihilistic BULLSHIT here. What a fucking load of deep--crap-horseshit, brother. (A case of kind of awake in mind but still pretty deep asleep in heart, yet in the deep unconscious shadows, the ego is *CONCEPTUALLY* projecting externally as if IT is indeed awake in heart, while it's clearly not, hehe, ... these unconscious projections never cease to surprise/amaze me). Let me repeat what I wrote: And then let me repeat: YOU DO FUCKING NEED THAT. ENLIGHTENMENT IS A STATE. STOP THE FUCKING IGNORANT SPIRITUAL BYPASSING. IT'S PISSING ME OFF <3 Wauw man. I'm speaking from direct experience here. Not from some conceptual ideas/belief systems in my head. I have tried everything I write. Directly experienced. Actuality. I've been to the deepest pits of hell, you can't even imagine. Likewise, I've been to the deepest heights of heaven, you can't even imagine either. And right now, I'm sober pretty high in heaven, if you ask me :-) But it's a state. I can lose it if I go down the nihilistic zen-devilry meaningless route of saying "NOTHING MATTERS SO I MIGHT AS WELL EAT JUNK FOOD AND MASTURBATE IN FRONT OF MY PC ALL DAY TELLING PEOPLE HOW NOTHING MATTERS ON AN ONLINE FORUM. HIHI LOOK AT ME. NO ONE HERE BRO! NOTHING TO DO. NOTHING TO REALIZE. JUST SMOKE WEED AND SMILE LIKE YOU'RE HAPPY!" ... fucking spiritual bypassing is what it is. The immensely sneaky ways of ego never cease to amaze me either

https://civilizationemerging.com/a-message-for-men-who-want-to-avoid-women-regretting-having-been-sexual-with-them/ - Daniel Schmachtenberger Just thought I'd post here as I feel like I this sub forum, and Leo sometimes, has too much "stage orange"-focus around dating and sex. Thoughts about Schmachtenbergers tips? His main point is basically that you should never have sex with a woman unless you are 100% sure she is very willing and has "yes" on all levels of subtle communication, e.g. verbally, non-verbally. If you're the slightest in doubt or if she hesitates or if you had to persuade her... call it off, he says. Basically: "Never push for sex. Let her pursue."

Yup. I like to differentiate between awakening "in mind" and awakening "in heart". What I call "being enlightened" is when BOTH your mind AND heart is fully transcended, awakened. The "heart"-part is the 'hard part' (pun intended) for a lot of atheistic, rational, INTP, Enneagram Five, logical types of people (basically 75% of peeps following Leo). The heart part is hard because you can't become awakened in it: - without pushing your comfort zones to the max - without listening to and allowing ALL of your emotions to come up - without direct experience, actuality. The heart part is especially hard because all INTP/Enneagram Fives are most likely not 'real' introverts, or real logicians, or real nerds or real competition/mental-minded aloof people. Their soul is probably filled with a desire to - FEEL - CONNECT - LOVE - EXPRESS - DEEPLY BOND WITH OTHERS However, all their desire to withdraw from society, to think and rationalize everything, to observe (instead of participate in) life, to create firm boundaries with other people in fear of getting too close to someone etc etc.. is VERY LIKELY survival/defense-mechanism learned in childhood (3-18 years old) due to some pretty intense trauma, that they are NOT fully conscious of today. All fives, intps, go talk to a pyschotherapist, a good one who knows about trauma, and then be honest and open with her (or him) and cry your hearts out. Love <3 The trauma probably has to do with early experiences of getting exluded from the peers' community, and perhaps even bullying, or perhaps father-figures who were emotionally inept / detached. But lots of other possible causes out there. Being awakened in heart is equal to deep inner peace, almost no fear, free expression. Being awakened in mind is equal to deep knowledge of Oneness, Nothingness, the illusory nature of ego/thought, and basically the perspectival nature of reality. A deep knowledge of the mechanics of duality. A deep understanding of relativism/post-modernism, basically a full embodiment of both stage green & yellow thinking. Turquoise requires the 'heart' part + fully integration of stage yellow. Do know that some people are kind-of awakened in heart but pretty asleep in mind. Sociopaths for instance, we could say, zen devils, or some extreme hippies. Likewise a lot of people on this forum are very much awake in mind but seemingly kind of lack the heart part still ( @VeganAwake, @traveler, im looking at you xD). It is basically another more benevolent form of zen delivery, denying their own unconscious attachment to concepts by masking it with their hillarious/sad nihilistic "no-self / no-one / nothingness / nothing to understand / nothing to attain / nothing to realize / no one to realize / nothing to do / nothing to get to / nothing to become / no one to become" - jargon, which all INTPs/enneagram Fives, including me (i've been there) know all too well =D Also guys, now I tagged you for lolz, but you don't have to come in and tell me your repetitious (and often funnily obviously shadow-projective) lines of: "that's just a belief, narrative, story, conceptual-thinking, cute model" "that's just what appears there, and it's perfectly fine - for no one" I got it. You deny Love. But even though you deny it, that is still Love. Reality is fucking Love. How could it be otherwise? :-) <3

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This. My father is a loving man, he's a humble, empathic, good, intelligent guy. But he's emotionally detached and was that my whole upbringing. Not only that, he also clearly lacks some masculine traits such as leadership, taking initiative. So yeah, lots of things I have had to learn on my own as an adult on how to be nlt only a strong masculine character but also one who's in touch and balance with his emotions...?

We are "the separate self/human person" because we think. Let go of all activity of thinking and what is left? Pure being. Raw Consciousness. You become sober again. Believing oneself to be a mortal separate "self" inside a human skull is Consciousness/God being DRUNK as fuck... Drunk on what you ask? On Its own infinite imagination. On Itself. That's you?

Selves are imagined by The Selfless Self which truly is what you (deep down) are.

?????????♾️♾️♾️⚛️⚛️⚛️ ?????????️?????? ? Beautiful inspiring read.

When can we preorder. Give us hints about its content please, like chapter titles. Is it primarily going to tackle epistemology?

Being enlightened IS a state. However, if you cultivate your consciousness & keep watering the garden of your mind, and stay healthy in body & mind, then sure, it's easily possible to basically more or less keep the state of deep inner peace/freedom/free expression until your death, thus making it seem like it was a permanent thing for all your poor ignorant followers. :-) Whether it's worth it or not is up for you to judge. I find all my work and deep suffering worth it though - of fucking course:-) You tell me. Probably the invisible chains ⛓️ of your ego that you have yet to burn with melting love & illuminating awareness :-) Moar dmttttt... changa Yes it is, but society/ego/culture/social conditioning makes it VERY hard to see that. Say that to an ape. Seeking (enlightenment/freedom) is absolutely fundamental in the beginning of one's unique path. If you don't seek, it's because you don't think "anything is wrong" which corresponds to 90% of the population in the West. But yes, eventually seeking will stop naturally - or has to cease - in order for one 'to get it'. ??

I think it does matter. Freedom for me luckily ? (what is appearing here to use your own words).