MarkusSweden

He is not dumb @Rilles, he try to provoke and cause drama. He has issues, obviously it's stupid to commit suicide, I hope that all people who read this thread understand that. Don't harm yourself, work on your consciousness and become a transforming loving force in the world. Peace.

I know, you are right..

I once saw a video with a western guy speaking of advaita vedanta. That guy had a map of some sort, like a 1m x 1m map behind him. It was very pedagogic. The map had a white background for the absolute qualities and a dark background for the relative qualities of reality, and some sort of coloured filter that covered everything as a pedagogic way to show that everything ultimately is one thing, is non duality. I have high intuition and have had mysterious experiences since I was a child. I never formulated my experience in any way though, I had a non language understanding of the divine let's say. I came here to gain the conceptual understanding, since I didn't have the map. Not that I needed it, but in order to communicate it I thought a language/map based understanding could be good to have. My journey was kind of backwards, I traveled the territory first, without the map. Most people construct the map before entering the territory I suppose. Anyway, whichever path, whichever direction you go, a solid conceptual map won't hurt. Shouldn't we construct an own map of reality, and whenever someone suggest adding or changing something we discuss it here. As time goes by, that map might evolve to the best conceptual map known to man, although it will only be a map of course. In judaism, in the spiritual branch of kabbalah have mind maps to explain reality, looks like a tree, very pedagogic, how things relate to eachother and to which branch. We could make one that is much more advanced. Some people here are great with programming and softwares, they can create cool graphics, some have good insights, etcetera. A good detail map how everything relate to each other could be a good idea, don't you think?

@Rilles @Preetom Thank you guys. Great answers! *love*

@markusrabbius Hehe, MarkusRabbius and MarkusSweden, welcome to the forum. I think Mexico should be more known for its psychedelics and less known for other drugs/drugwars. Mexico is indeed a beautiful country. Kiss one of those Bufo Alvarious toads from me.

But Leo, how ever you twist it, reality is utterly crazy. Just look at these two facts. 1. From absolute perspective everything is consciousness, 'matter' is nothing but consciousness, the "consciousness only"-model by Rupert Spira describes it very well what is going on from the absolute perspective. 2. From the relative perspective, the world/matter is the OPPOSITE of consciousness. Matter is dense, has form, is solid, is finite, has objective qualities, is a thing etcetera. Where as consciousness is transparent, infinite, empty, no-thingness etcetera. This is all true from the relative perspective. Is so stupid is a way. Up is down and down is up depending on what perspective you choose. Utterly utterly crazy and stupid. I agree life can be pleasant and be absent of suffering. But it can NEVER make sense, It can never be sane.

I love to just be, pure be-ing. Doing is a distraction from this pure being, doing is a distraction from resting in infinite consciousness. My awareness goes into a contemplative and a meditative mode without any effort when I don't do anything at all. To just be is beautiful. Concentration and doing is a distraction from the truth and the love I feel when I let the spontaneous contemplation just happens, as it always does when resting in pure being with nothing else to do. My dad on the other hand loves doing, i don't think he has anything going on in his inner being other then the satisfaction over something he does in the outer world. The arrangement of the outer world, like working, cleaning, house keeping, pay bills, wash the cars etcetera, gives him satisfaction. He view me as lazy and I view him as a closed minded person with no access to divine consciousness. I would like him to have the taste of Godly awareness, but that will never happens. Anyway, it's tricky with my dad, but other people who are "doers" that I don't know personally, those people I love, they don't bother me(because they don't know me, hence they don't know we are different) and I love the sounds of people working, the discussions they have, the sound of construction working in action. But I love it only when I'm not part of it my self. I like to blissfully witness it all from a distance, with a cup of coffee in my hand and love in my heart. Those "working-bees" do so much things for me, they build my house, they build my car, they construct all the roads I love to travel. They transport and manufacture all the delicious foods and goods to my local store for me to pick whatever I like. I can't help but feeling some trace guilt in the middle of all the bliss. I obviously like to consume the fruits of society, but clearly, I don't contribute anything myself(I'm lucky regarding economy). The only thing I provide for others are an open mind, kindness, happiness, but no real goods, nothing tangible. Aren't those working-bees right about us to some degree, we are somewhat lazy, we don't help the wheels of society to spin that much, do we? After all, teaching non duality which many of us realised do, has no value for those who can't pick it up, which are most people, nor do they desire it. Only like 0.02% of people both desire AND are able to pick it up and transform themselves from the non duality teachings. And there are by far enough teachers out there to supply the non dual teaching demands from those tiny 0.02 % who wants it. You see what I'm saying here? Elaborate.

@Devil High consciousness = Choke jerking(If you do it right and find the balance point where you are close to unconsciousness, yet not so close that you risk hurting yourself, then you can fully and safety relax into present choke-jerking moment, that is extremely high consciousness I would say, almost as a path of its own towards enlightenment.

+1 Nailed it.

@Devil Should we get rid of family, that's what you saying?

Sounds reasonable. Let me ask you, have you experiences with heavy doses of potent psychedelics, like 5-meo-dmt? In that case, does your trips confirm the picture you give here? Is it fair to say that God is afraid you think? Because his desperately need to find out the truth? Also, could it be that truth with capital T doesn't exists. I have ideas that there might be a dark insight to find if we really dig deep. Like an infinite trap let's say.

@Devil What do you mean by DEATH? You advocate suicide on order to gain truth aka ALL?

I view you as my online authority, yet there is no movement of antagonism-violence between us. You are my guru, but ALSO an equal nice fella who can chit chat on random topics in PM's like training, family life etcetera. Hence it doesn't have to be the way you describe. There can be a guru-disciple relationship, yet a common friendship on another level as well. At least that is true online it seems. No movement of fear is involved between us what I can tell.

It works fine when someone start the conversation, for some reason I can't start a PM conversation myself. You got the answer?

Fragmentation/division is caused by the false notion of the movement of time. Without time(which doesn't exist) all other factors/variables that cause fragmentation dissolve. Time is the key factor here. You see?