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@Quanty @Rilles @egoless @Dino D @Etagnwo @Ether Why is there so many ideas about truth/God? I get confused! lol

Didn't you at least see the link? Third testament by Martinus IS the continuation of the bible, the necessary continuation.

But Leo has looked so deep that he has found the big paradoxes of reality, and that reality is one giant strange loop. Of course that means much time and a lot of work to unravel, and he does all that for us, FOR FREE. In end we will find eternal bliss if we follow him. But there is no short cuts, you must do all meditations ans see all his episodes on youtube. We can't reduce reality to something simple just because of convenience?

If Rupert Spira is wrong, then reality is literary impossible to figure out. You don't find a more humble low key and intelligent man. But you are right, he might be wrong, and if so, that in itself is a great lesson not to bother with so called truth. The guy(Spira) spend 30 years with meditation and contemplations.

I appreciate that you speak your heart! Do you think your believes will hold up if you try psychedelics? Would you dare to challenge Jesus with 30 mg 5-MEO-DMT? Btw, I have an interesting thing for you. I am one of few in the world who are almost an expert on third testament, it's really cool. I don't talk about it here since it's not popular, but it's a continuation of the bible. If you have any problem with any of the symbols feel free to ask. Also, a lot of seminars and videos are on Danish and Swedish language, I can do subtitles if you are interested. But you can read the whole third testament (7 volumes and 5000 pages ) online in English The symbols are as important as the text. http://www.martinus.dk/en/ttt/

She is in Texas, Chapel Hill, starting a family and studying. She was/is great. She was very sensitive, funny and insightful. She might come back when she find time and motivation.

I actually like Dawkins, he is very honest and sharp even though he don't grasp what consciousness. Isn't this debate funny? Because the one who is right(Chopra) feels like the arrogant one, and the one who is wrong(Dawkins) feels like the more coherent and honest one.

You probably have investigate it deeper then what I have, I give you that. It's just that I trust Osho so so SO much, plus I heard 3-4 independent sources as well that back Osho's version. But I haven't really looked in to it deeply. I shouldn't be too cocky either, even though I'll will go with Osho until I have MANY sources that says otherwise. I wil look into it, the life of Jesus is more exiting then anything else in history, at least to me.

That is taken out of context, that was many 'if:s' to that claim. If this and that continues/ if this and that happens, then... etcetera Again Osho was never wrong per se, but he sometimes knowingly told lies in order for people to see the truth, this seem paradoxical, but it is so. Great artist say: "Truth is impossible to tell with true statements alone, you need lies as well to tell the whole picture" Picasso(I know you don't like him) painted not what he saw, he painted truth, and in painting truth he had to violent visual proportions(aka lie)

Yes, I know. But that story was a piece of artwork, like a musician or science fiction movie maker with a space epos to gain attention. The story of jesus wasn't in that category of an artist workpiece. This was a story about the true life of Jesus that he shared. You see the difference? Osho was never deceived in any thing, but he had humor and acted knowingly t gain attention occasionally, but thats another story.

This is the typical lack of humbleness you find among people who sub consciously know they are wrong. Not sure he was exactly 115 when he died, but sources know he surpass 100 by many years. and that he moved to Kashmir is not debatable, it's a fact. Religious indoctrinations in the west says otherwise, don't go with deception.

Scientists, historians as well as theologians have examined all of Osho's teachings, and they didn't find one single piece of information that was wrong. I doubt they miss this story about jesus. My 2 cents are with Osho, no doubt.

@Etagnwo Why so cynical?

lol, Jesus didn't die on the cross, you still believe that myth? He moved to Asia, and lived happy in India/Pakistan and died a natural death when he was about 115. He died in Kashmir.

I'm not sure it was stupid. He had a subtle feeling that something special might come true through him. And those feelings can be very vulnerable, you better keep that to yourself, if he had to explain himself he might have killed that feeling and momentum. He had a greater course, and trusted that without looking back. Without that 'stupid' behaviour no buddhism today probably.

Was that heroic or stupid you think? Also, is this heroic or stupid?

We can all behave better, no one in particular to blame. This is the only forum with high volume dealing with these kind of questions, right?

You are great in delivering one-liners, lol

I have just noticed that very peaceful kind and loving people speaks more truth, no matter what they talk about, they can talk about sports and you can listening to it as a spiritual teaching. I noticed in myself as well, funny how you can't access truth when you frustrated, but you know everything when you are in a state of love/peace. Even a slightly judging teacher is far from seeing the complete beauty of truth. Look at that David Spero which was @AlwaysBeNice advice. You can see how he radiate peace, its 'impossible' to lie from that state of awareness,

Leo Gura said in his resent episode on consciousness that.. "The most loving people are the most conscious people" I really believe this. Who is the most loving, most warm and kind teacher out there. (Except Leo, even though he is great in this respect) Eckhart Tolle comes to my mind, he use to thank people in the most humble way for any question, and he have that lovely giggle. He seem warm and genuine, anyone else out there? A kind, warm and loving teacher. Because then you know the teaching come straightly from the highest awareness.

What a beautiful answer, what a beautiful first word and what a lovable quote! Tnx!

Interesting! You almost never hear storys like this, thanks for sharing.

You don't like Leo?

Haha