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@Shakazulu if you claim that something exists, it is a subjective claim and not an objective one. thus, it does not exist and so is objectivity and existence itself. everything is nothing.

@Versa good for you, good for us, good for all live long and prosper

@snowleopard enlightenment is not related to self-identification, because there is no self to identified with in the first place.

@SOUL thank you ?? live long and prosper

@SOUL can i join you? it's so beautiful

@Leo Gura thank you for sharing a precise description of the dream state, "maya's garden". you see, all we can perceive as reality is completely subjective. no objectivity can be proved, and never will, it just does not exists. so, as being subjectively, reality is just but a dream, the deceptive way to experience life as we know it.

@Mighty Mouse this is more like it, and i like it

@Mighty Mouse i'm sorry that you choose to feel that way

and why is that?

so, is that all? a handful of human beings as candidates? i have patience, but the question is, do you have patience after all you've been told? ok ... if i've already taken off my camouflage uniform, and now that I've been exposed, I'll tell you the rest. to be more precise, i am a two star general in the enlightened army, who serves in the human resources department, recruitment section. the situation is desperate, and i, in person, enlisted to recruit candidates for a journey back to enlightenment. this is my very first shift, i registered to leo's forums and start mingling with some of you. at first in a clumsy way, but soon my moves became smooth and harmonic while i hovers effortlessly, except for a few minor lapses, dancing with anyone who cares to make a step forward. some of you started to dance among yourselves. as for my human condition status, i just broke my ankle of the left leg last week, when my motorcycle fell on it, that was after i registered to the forums and just before i was about to move to a distant place and change my life environment, to start in new normal human job. my ankle was plastered, and i can't make the move just yet. now, i have all the time in the world, to continue recruiting human beings. so, am i enjoying myself? it's depends. some times i'm sick of pure boredom, using the same enlightenment cliche labels, and getting over and over again, the same dreamers crap, but otherwise, i'm fine. thanks for caring. If you're looking for proof of all this, it is found in the way i conducted. it is all in black pixels floating on whitish background, stored inside a huge computer data storage. so, go and see for yourself. leo does not need proof, since he serves as an agent himself (as mentioned earlier). he can't tell you otherwise, because no one would believe him. this story my friends can't be contradicted, for the key lies in the hand of one who can't use it. it is a perfect paradox. so, i've already started a new recruit cycle, hopefully, it will harvests more recruits next time.

ok, i'll tell you who i am, but it's a secret, not one should not know about it. remember, don't tell anyone. here it is.... i am an agent doing my stuff on behalf of the enlightenment. my job is to recruit human beings on their way to enlightenment, and speed up the process a bit. this is my shift now, and this is what i do. the reason for doing that is because of a clash between two human civilizations is about to happen. all the enlightened beings will be considered as mutants, and from then all hell break loose. so, behave yourself and follow me to back to enlightenment. p.s. leo is an agent too.... and so are all the rest of known enlightened human beings except maybe a few. i use leo's forums as a platform, a recruitment bureau for candidates ready for a journey back to enlightenment (just don't tell leo). ok, I've already said too much.

no need to be sorry for anything, no harm done ?? live long and prosper

who are you? a banker, a scientist, a pilot, a computer programmer, a teacher, a psychologist or whatever profession you specialized in. a wise man, a pretty face lover, a motorcyclist, a photographer... really, who are you? everything you think about yourself happened because of the circumstances of your life. It was not really determined by you, it was the opportunities that came your way, and you let them happen with full collaboration on your behalf... so, i'll ask again, who are you? are you all of those things that your life environment has put on you by chance? do you accept it as it is? are you looking for freedom? are you looking for the truth?

@Nahm who said anything about triangle, it's an orgy and everyone are invited ??

@Mighty Mouse you see my beloved friend Mighty Mouse, unconditional love is unlimited in terms of shape and size. btw, cats are not mouses enemies, they just raised that way. live long and prosper

@Nahm

@Nahm thank you my beloved friend ?? live long and prosper

@SOUL

@SOUL you should

@Truth mmmm you see, i'm not sure that the man in the video, was sure that his name is jeff, just because of the fact that, he couldn't be the one that chose his name.

this is done in order to be understood properly. in order to communicate, the two must stand on common ground, speaking the same language, kind of.

resistance/friction leads to energy loss, you know that from electricity, from mechanics and from numerous other fields of materialism. it is also true as regarding non-materialism, where it leads to suffering. being open-hearted and open-minded does not mean that you absorb it all, and starts to believe anything you read, see or hear. quite the contrary, it's about letting go of all your beliefs and imprints, and start looking carefully at things in a new perspective, your perspective.

no, everything you read, see or hear, they are just stories, do not believe anything, do not believe others and not even yourself for that matter. all of these stories are merely a road map, you need to check them out for yourself by those that resonate with you. you are the only one who can discover the truth for your self for what as it is. "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" (sherlock holmes).

@Nahm

some gets it ahhh.... two recruits so far, maybe three and counting... @Nahm i really can be a double agent, this is why you have to check your enlightenment status from time to time. @Heart of Space You get all the loot thrown along the enlightenment path.