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@electroBeam on the contrary, you want to loose control, the ego is the one who wants to gain control over the process. the ego must die. cleansing is a demanding work, it requires self discipline and clarity of intent. now you understand why and how the ego resists and why it is hard at the beginning but it gets easier over time until it is done effortlessly. that's the process.

@Samra @molosku imagine that you are floating on a smooth lake. from a distance you can see a wave doing its way toward you. you can let it go through you without any effect, or you can let it takes you wherever it goes. this is your choice to make. @electroBeam working hard means pay attention, being aware to all that is happening within yourself, especially regarding fears. you see, all what you consider to be "yourself", your thoughts and feelings, all your imprints and beliefs, all judgment and criticism, all your fears... all of them, must be taken out of "your system" and put aside. it's a long and agonizing work some times (especially at the beginning), but then it is done effortlessly. it is a no return journey to a place where you will know who you are. after that you will start knowing the true nature of reality, and the way to relate to it.

@Leo Gura hahaha my way to the absolute is looooooong, it feels like buzz lightyear from "toy story": to infinity and beyond

@molosku it is much like the difference between thinking about something and knowing it. when you know that a thought pops up is not "yours", then you dis-identify with it, you can watch it goes by instead of reading/hearing it. then, the loop of thoughts is broken. the same goes with emotions, you can watch them too. the thing is to stop being a player on your life "stage", immersed in reality, and start watching your life situations as a spectator, like watching a play. life doesn't happen to "you", it happens for "you".

no, you have to work hard, real hard to get it through. but then it is done effortlessly. it looks like a paradox, a contradiction, but then again, i can assure you it is not

@Shin i've published a topic named "my path to enlightenment", take a look...

yes, yes, although "beautiful" is subjective and judgmental, it is what it is and can be seen only from one's eyes.

@Shin kind of. this is how it looks like from "my" point of view, from where i am... and if you want to see it too, you have to come here and see it for yourself

@Thanatos13 now look, everything you are aware of is totally subjective, you experience reality only from your subjective senses. reality is your private dream. you can not tell anything about others in your reality/dream, are they real or just an extra in you dream. the only thing you can tell is that you exists in some form, all the rest are just stories, thus not true... and this is the truth.

it is true that there is nothing out there, nothing at all. reality is just a subjective illusion, a dream, "created" by/for "you" as a scenery to explore and experience life as you grasp it. scientifically, there is no proof, no single evidence of any kind to the "physical" nature of reality, so it can not be true. physics (and science as a whole) is just a "human" belief like all the rest... you are only a tip of a finger, a sensor for infinity, a means to experience.

for sure you are aware of some of your fears, avoiding them at any cost and can be triggered on autopilot. but, there are fears that you are not aware of. fears regarding situations you haven't faced yet. these fears will rise when the time comes. the secret detector works like this: 1. imagine a life situation where you intend to find one. 2. now observe your reaction about the situation. 3. are you feeling optimistic or pesimistic about it? 4. if you feel optimistic, there is nothing there. 5. if you feel pessimistic, there is a fear hiding there. go and face it in real-time life. FYI: the secret detector works also as a BS detector and it works like this: 1. imagine a life situation where you intend to find one. 2. now observe your reaction about the situation. 3. are you sensing expansion (like laughter or chuckle) or contraction (like fear)? 4. if you sense expansion, it's BS. 5. if you sense contraction, maybe it's not. * the reliability of the secret detector when used as a BS detector is not high to say the least.

the self is a bodily mechanism to separate the inner-world from the outer-world sort of speak. the self is what makes you "you", generating a sense of existence apart from the environment around "you". the self consists of imprints and beliefs about reality, explaining how it works. the self communicates with reality using thoughts and feelings which are generated from those thoughts (internal) and from the body senses (external) and interact with it using the body. fear is the glue holding all "your" imprints and beliefs in a tangible way and allow the self to continuously feels alive. the first step to dismantle the self is to dissolve all "your" fears and question all "your" imprints and beliefs.

@Charlotte when an emotion arises, when the drama begins, just stay calm, get down from the "drama stage" and watch your thoughts and feelings from a distance. when you dis-identify from those, you can respond the way you find appropriate.

this thread demonstrates how significant the ego is in one's self. no Judgment, no criticism, just pointing out.

@Monkey-man accepting reality with full surrender is according to the "Code of Behavior", while being gratitude is how you respond to reality as a whole. the two are complementary.

@Joseph Maynor truth, there is only one, truth is consciousness and that is all that there is.

we are a tip of a finger, a sensor for infinity, a means to experience.

compassion comes from empathy. conditional love is an emotion (can be conditioned by fear). unconditional (infinite) love is about oneness.

@SOUL the LOVE issue is a bit tricky. the self uses a conditional love to connect to other beings in reality and it is expressed as a feeling in the body. when the self is dismantled, this type of love is gone along with all other feelings. then, when you accept reality with full surrender, one of the ways to connect with reality is with unconditional love. unconditional love is a non-targeted and a non-attached while conditional love is by definition targeted and attached (it last as long as its conditions are met). letting go is about attachment, not about love. attachments are closely related and caused by fears.

@egoless consciousness is infinite and unlimited and through "you" it experiencing the finite and the limitation. consciousness has no past, nor future, it was never created and will not be destroyed, it just is. in the infinite and unlimited, there is no meaning to anything, thus it is nothing. you can look at it like this: the only truth that you can say is that "I AM" and as the host for consciousness, the only thing you can be sure of is that consciousness exists.

in one word. no. and why is that? preferences are what we like to sense or feel right now. the preferred is neither good or bad and we have no opinion regards the other options, they are just not suitable at this moment. it is possible that in other circumstances a different option is to be chosen. preferences are forged from comfortable habits.

life is a gift given to "you" to play in a playground called reality. "you" are just a player who experiencing life. "you" can live "your" life been immersed in reality as "you" grasp it, or "you" can watch it according to what it really is and act respectively. I am full of gratitude for the opportunity given to "me" to play in this wonderful playground.

for "me" there is no need to refine the nature of experience/perception, i do not try to understand nor comprehend reality (sometimes it looks really weird and bizarre) but humbly accept it as it is and continuously move along the flow of inevitability. it's like "reading between the lines", observing the "blueprint" of reality directly with "no-self" filtering. it is true that at the time of death (of the physical body), there is a disconnection from reality as a whole.

enlightenment is a two stage process. the first stage is when "you" stop identify with the self and realize that "you" are not the body, nor "your" thoughts and feelings and "your" fears are not "real". "you" become a "no-self" - the watcher who observe it all from a distance. the second stage is when you realize that reality is not a chaos occurrences and causality is just a belief, but a pre-defined, carefully designed and crafted flow of inevitability. in the second stage "you" become the watcher of the watcher and the term "enlightenment" has no meaning any more.

science only tries to describe objects and events in reality as humans perceive them. science is based upon stories from earlier times and it associated with the human belief system. it is true that humans use science as a tool to satisfy their instinct of natural curiosity and as a tool to make life convenient. when looking carefully at reality, science is no more then a story as the rest of human beliefs. reality is not what the human being perceives as real.