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LastThursday replied to Federico del pueblo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I was taught it as "collapsing" anchors, but yeah. I was just explaining one narrow aspect, that I'm more familiar with. The body can be divided up into many different "systems": circulatory, lymphatic, nervous, microbiome, muscular, skeletal. But it's all one thing really. If anything is being stored, then it is imprinted into all these different systems. One interesting system is the electromagnetic field of the body, this being the result of the electrical potential of cells in the body. I would say that this field is throughout the body and very dynamic. I don't think it's passive, but can actually feedback into cells and affect their behaviour. That might be a prime candidate for storage of trauma. I'm sure there are many practices (e.g. Reiki, acupuncture) that are actually affecting this field for theraputic purposes. And, the whole idea ofbody meridians in Chinese medicine has to do with this. -
Hey @soos_mite_ah it's great to see you're doing well. I also work with real estate software, and have the same feeling of it being unaligned with my values. But I tell myself that in the end I'm helping people find a home (maybe even their dream home), and that's no bad thing.
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LastThursday replied to Federico del pueblo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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LastThursday replied to Federico del pueblo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Emotions are called feelings for a reason, because they are felt in the body. I would argue that all emotions are manifested in some way in the body. The particular combinations of feeling you have in the body are labelled as "happiness", "jealousy", "panic attack", "calm" and so on. In that sense emotions (labels) are not stored. But the sensations in the body are stored in the same way as knowing how to move your arm are stored (whatever that is). Emotions are closer to reflexes than to conscious movement in the body. A reflex is there to either protect you or to give you a message. It wouldn't make sense to say that "my reflexes need processing" and it's the same with emotions. What processing actually means is changing your body's response (emotional reflexes) to thoughts and situations that trigger certain emotions. The body learns it's emotions through association: e.g. you get a tightness in your chest when talking to people, and call it anxiety; the pain is triggered by (associated to) people, but the association is learnt not innate. There was a first time that association was made. That means triggers can be unlearnt and the association stopped. One way that the association is stopped (processed) is by using narrative techniques. You explore the narrative of the event that formed the association in the first place: e.g. you spoke to a person when you were a kid and they were aggressive towards you. And you re-contextualise the triggered emotion by doing this exploration. In this way you weaken the link between the stimulus (people) and the response (anxiety). With work you break the link totally. There are other ways. For instance NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) breaks the links between stimulus and response (emotion), by disrupting the normal process of the trigger mechanism. It gets you to trigger the normal emotional response in the body (to something negative), but at the same time triggers a different (positive) response - the simultaneous responses interfere with each other, the upshot being that the body relearns it's reflex. There are some very powerful NLP techniques if done right. This is a non-narrative approach. -
I feel as though I've run out steam when it comes to journaling. I mostly took it up during the lockdown, and because I've always fancied being sort some sort of writer. I think I've got out everything I wanted to get out (in my other journal). I've processed a lot of stuff through it, by virtue of the fact of just writing it out and thinking about what to say. I've also expounded on a lot of my ideas and clarified them, where before they were half-baked and nebulous. I've also improved my writing style and I find it quite easy to just keep writing: I enjoy it. I've also used it as a way to express myself and my unique take on things. Maybe, I've even been entertaining! I've never been one to inauthentically force myself to do anything. I'm big enough and mature enough to do only the things I want to (and when I want to do them), or the things that absolutely have to be done. I journaled daily because I wanted to. I'm journaling less because I want to. One of my aims for journaling was not to repeat myself, I wanted every post to be new. There are probably more depths I could plumb, after all I have 50 years of experiences; to recount all that in real time would take another 50 years. I think more ideas will accumulate in time and I can come fresh to it. I did start to consolidate my old journal into book form and that sits on my hard drive ready to be edited and polished and arranged. Knowing myself, I will have a spurt of energy and focus sometime and get the thing done, I just don't know when. I had a stuttering start to journaling on here, constantly yo-yoing about what I could actually write about. But the waters broke in the end, I had a need that had to be fulfilled. I feel the same about participating here on the forum and even about pursuing some sort of spirituality in general. My needs ripple differently each day and are fickle. I took a break from here for a number of months, because of a confluence of factors: mostly I was processing the effects of my coaching sessions, and because I didn't want to be beholden to habit and distraction; I wanted to know I was in control and I am. I'll continue journaling on here, but I suspect far more sporadically. At the moment I'll continue to spam the forum with my insights.
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LastThursday replied to Julian gabriel's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Have you tried? It's clear that if it's possible, then it's not easy to do because we would all be doing it. My idea is that the world you experience is a habit. From repetition the world learns to behave the same way each time. By repetition I mean that consciousness becomes aware of certain aspects of itself and expresses those more strongly (structure and laws). It's like a river stretching out and carving out a landscape, over time the branches get deeper and more defined. One way would be to jolt yourself out of your normal reality, like re-routing a river. That would "loosen" the habits of the world. On the other hand, there are things we can all do, and that's already magic. -
LastThursday replied to Magnanimous's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Meditation is about pulling yourself out of your normal "everyday" mode. By doing that you allow yourself to become aware that you're more than just that. It's a process of stepping outside your normal self (transcendence). By stepping outside yourself you can also become aware of your own behaviours and thoughts and gain insights. This process of transcendence purifies because you're always looking to go beyond who you are already. -
LastThursday replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think like waves lapping a beach, surrender and attachment come and go as you "awaken". You have to surrender when beginning the journey, but then appreciate attachment for what it is. You do both on one level, but identify with neither on another. You even give up on the "process of awakening" eventually, because that's not it. But you have to have a process to even begin. -
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@Ulax here are some thoughts that come to mind. When you re-live an event in your memory, the event always gets transformed in some way. For effective journaling, there are two parts to it. The first part is accurately and fully describing the event, especially focusing on capturing the emotional aspects of it. Just the act of recall and writing things down in detail, can make you consider things differently. This can start to loosen the emotional hold the event has over you. The second part is to step back from the event, and describe what the motivations were of the people involved, why did they do what they did? But also describe your feelings in detail. And to finish off, write down what you wished would have happened instead had you been able to affect things: what would you have said to those people? The idea here is to fully immerse yourself in the event, describe it, and deconstruct it, then reconstruct it in a more positive way. Often when recalling negative past events, we get stuck in a vicious cycle of reinforcing the negativity. We feel the emotional pain, but we don't deconstruct or re-contextualise what happened. Here's a hypothetical example of a journal entry I would make (it didn't actually happen): "I broke my leg when I was seven years old. I had been playing piggy back and fell on concrete. The pain was horrible and my friends ran away, because they didn't know what to do. I felt abandoned by my friends. Even when my Mum came to help me, all she could do was shout at me for being stupid. I was in the hospital for what seemed like eternity and I couldn't play and see my friends, I felt so lonely. Even after when I was on crutches I had to stay mostly indoors because I couldn't move very much. But all my friends came round and wrote their names on my plaster cast. Sleeping was painful and uncomfortable, and nobody seemed to ask me how I was feeling or care about my pain. Even after I got better, some of my old friends had moved on, and I felt betrayed by them." and so on, feel into it. That's my thoughts!
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? The truth burns make it stop! ? I don't know man. Ultimately, my "truth" is just a judgement. My friend has a complex dynamic going on (she has four kids, messy divorce etc.). I suppose I could throw in a monkey wrench into that dynamic and see where it lands. Anyway, I'll stop derailing the thread.
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My friend is never alone, she's always in a relationship! She just doesn't have lasting relationships. Life doesn't end when you're 50, it ends when you die. Trust me when you reach 50, you'll feel no different. My grandmother remarried in her 80's ?♂️ If you want to die alone, then go for it! Whatever makes you happy.
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You're definitely appealing to my monkey mind. But my higher self is resisting the temptation. Most people don't like being told "you're an idiot". I'd like to keep her as a friend. Yeah I'm just mentioning it as a case study for dramatic effect. I think I had a point somewhere... oh yeah, it's the converse of what I'm saying. Some 21 year olds, I'm sure, can have mature relationships relative to their age group. Definitely when I was 21 I felt quite mature and I had a ten year relationship, so it's not completely impossible. Was I immature as hell at 21, yes.
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It's no different at 50. A friend of mine is constantly going "through the mill". What she doesn't realise is she's more emotionally mature than the men she dates and they end up pissing her off. She also doesn't realise her taste in men is immature. I don't have the heart to tell her.
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It looks like you know exactly what you want. Go do it! Be true to yourself. It's also the perfect time to experiment with lots of different things and people and not to tie yourself down too much. If your intuition told you the guy wasn't right for you, then it was the right decision, you will manifest other amazing people in your life in due course.
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In a debate you have two sides with different points of view. Each side then tries to convince the other that their point of view is the right one. The tendency is to fight and defend your point of view, even if the other side is being reasonable or has some good information. It tends to shut you off from learning and deconstructing. The opposite of debating is to be open to new ideas and possibilities. Even if you have your own point of view, you still listen to what others have to say and you have some curiosity about their point of view. You ask them questions to gather more information, and you're prepared to admit you might be wrong, or admit you don't know everything. You go away and integrate the new information, and deconstruct yourself. The only way to improve yourself, is to change. The only way to change is to kill off bad ideas and take on new ones. You have to want change. New ideas come from other people or your own insights. You have to listen.
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Aging is entropy in action. The body constantly fights destruction from entropy using energy from the environment (food). Entropy is destructive because it is easier to break things than to fix them. The environment doesn't care about your body, it is constantly under attack (viruses, bacteria, temperature, cuts, bones breaking etc). In order for the body to keep fixing itself it needs an abstract notion of a template (self-identity) to work from. If the template (self-identity) was perfect, then it could indefinitely undo the damage from increasing entropy (it always increases). But it is not perfect, so entropy and descruction wins in the end. Interestingly, some animals can win at this game of entropy: some types of jellyfish. They are effectively immortal. But even they probably couldn't survive being cut up into small pieces (another form of increasing entropy). To reverse aging would require us to have a better knowledge of the body's systems than it does. And even then we would have to find a way of making those repairs happen. That's a very tall order.
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LastThursday replied to tuku747's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In fact self-awareness is primary. The idea of information lives inside awareness. Imagine a screen full of pixels (information) a million of them. Then you have a million screens. At which point does all this information become self-aware? How can it? -
disjoint with ok enough of this madness
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@UpperMaster this is a great insight to have about yourself. The sensation you're feeling is that of "levelling up", it can feel weird and confusing for a while. Success can be scary. It requires commitment, responsibility and it may require you to keep fighting to stay successful, it takes work. Success can also be an anti-climax, the journey can be more exciting than the result: some people fear that. But not achieving success or even trying can also be suffering in itself. When the vision you have of being a successful self doesn't match the reality, it can drain your emotions and chip away at your self-esteem. You may get a short term hit of pleasure by being defiant and talking yourself out of success, but there is a longer term price to pay.
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LastThursday replied to Rafael Thundercat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks ChatGPT. The irony is that technical jargon is used exactly because the words have very specific meanings, and if you know the jargon you can communicate more clearly. I'd say unless you're using very well defined words, there's no way of escaping potential confusion. Just look at the use of the words: God, consciousness, Devil, enlightenment, nothing, free will, vibration on this forum. They cause no end of noise in threads (personally, I enjoy the semantic chaos), but they lead people to go round in circles with no resolution. It's a miracle we understand each other at all! -
LastThursday replied to Rafael Thundercat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Good use of language requires the speaker and the listener to be at the same level. For example, if I talk about how to build an aircraft engine, I'm expecting that the listener has a certain level of understanding. Most confusion arises because the listener is not on the same level as the speaker (in terms of understanding). The listener either doesn't understand, misunderstands or doesn't bother to listen - but that is not their fault (it's no-one's fault). If you want clear communication then, you must match your speech to the listener's level. That's one aspect. That takes skill on the speaker's part though, to both gauge the listener's level of understanding, and to be able to speak at that level. It's not easy. Scientists can fail here (e.g. John Vervaeke, Joscha Bach). Another aspect to good communication is being semantically clear. Usually, this involves not contradicting yourself. But it also involves clearly and deeply understanding the connections between ideas, and being logically sound. Most people either don't have enough depth around a subject, or don't know how to be logically sound. It also often involves having a bigger picture view of a subject. Most good communicators are able to switch up and down their level of communication, and to zoom in and out of a subject. Also, to be a good listener requires some amount of curiosity. If you're not understanding something, then you should be questioning the speaker. In a more formal setting you would take notes to ask at the end or to go and investigate further yourself. Ideally, speaker and listener should question each other. Ultimately, communication is always two way. There's responsibilities on both sides to create decent communication. -
