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@Antonius of all the types of jobs most amenable to yellow thinking, programming/development must be up there. Don't we constantly work with systems? It's just a matter of expanding your thinking right out to include the entire world, not just a phone app interacting with a database. A first step is to invert your thinking. Top down rather than bottom up. Then funnel down to something manageable in software. Some global systemic issues could be: Plastics in the food chain and their effects on animal/human health. Mitigating the effects of automated trading systems on the boom/bust cycle of world markets. Logistics for environmental disaster relief. Stopping food waste world-wide. Supplying high quality affordable education for third world countries. Improving access to the internet for third world countries. By tackling the large systemic issues, you allow large numbers of people to improve the quality of their lives. This is turn frees them up to raise their consciousness. The way I see it, is that maybe by 'freeing' up thousands if not millions of people, you have a snowball effect. You end up freeing up that one person that will themselves change the world, another Ghandi or Mandela or Newton or Da Vinci. You don't have to change the world yourself, just enable someone else to change it. To run a yellow company, as well as large scale systemic thinking, requires that your workers are also catered for in a system type way. That means some of the following things are catered for: their needs for rest and relaxation, child care, earning potential, flexibility of working hours, flat hierarchies, strategic involvement in planning, fluid job roles, health and fitness, easy access to counselling, regular learning and development. Perhaps even a company without any management as such.

I'd say it was a complex question. If you're a one wo/man band with yellow ideas, it's unlikely (though not impossible) that you'll change the world for the better with software. You have to go back to basics and ask yourself "what is software for?". In my opinion software is an amplifier just like any another tool or machine. It makes certain activities easier or it allows you to do more in the same time period or it allows you to do things that were previously impossible. Using software working with big data to do forecasting is one activity which springs to mind. You would model many interactions of many different systems at a high level, and forecast what would happen if you tweak those systems here and there. For example you could model the whole economy of a country and its interaction with its environment and the welfare of its people. You would then ask questions such as, "How does building new homes on this particular piece of land affect people's prosperity, the diversity of wildlife, how much extra CO2 is produced?" and so on. These are kind of green questions, but couched within a yellow mentality. You could for example, see how building a new airport affects the world climate or how it increases jobs in another country or whatever. Most big software in the forecasting arena is too narrow, i.e. just weather or just economy or just wildlife. There's plenty of room for synergising all of these data and models. Another area dear to my heart is using software to actually change the character of capitalism itself. Why do people work long hours for others in an office? To survive and lead a comfortable life. But software is so tremendously flexible that it can be nearly applied to every part of human life. If software can free us from needing to actually work and sucking our spirits dry, then we would be free to become more connected, less fatigued, in touch with nature, and in touch with ourselves. Essay over.

@RendHeaven I was kind of begging the question, but you understood my point clearly. To have a definition of fantasy that is all encompassing, is next to useless for improving (sexual) relationships. @Uncover would like to have a more meaningful relationship. I say the only long term ecological way of doing that, is not to indulge in the existing fantasies, and in fact strip them back to reveal a more authentic and "grown up" way of interacting. And in the process experience a more meaningful relationship. A working baseline for that more authentic relationship are friendships, which you pointed at, are less ingorantly layered in stories. It's childish to think that you cannot have a sexual relationship without fantasy (in the narrower sense). I would go further and say an unconditional friendship is even less bound up in fantasy and a better way of being. In other words either side can choose when and if to break the relatinship and go their own way, without prejudice, deep explanation, guilt or remorse. The relationship exists because it currently suits both parties to be together (for whatever reasons: sexual attraction, financial, intimacy, etc). How could you maintain any relationship this way? The point is friendships and sexual relations will be made and eventually broken irrespective of any "fantasy" holding them together. Why the pretense and suffering? Get rid of that!

@Truthority if I invited you into my house and then you called me a cu**, I know exactly what I'd do. Like it or not, this is Leo's forum first and foremost. You should at least show some courtesy. If you don't like his style, then lead by example and set up your own forum and put out weekly videos, maybe I'd even follow you?

@RendHeaven would you say that a friendship involves less fantasy than a sexual relationship?

Precisely. And that, is exactly why most relationships end up being dysfunctional. You are never good enough for each other. The best that can be done is to raise one's own awareness so that at least half the relationship is not dysfunctional. Or you go find a partner who doesn't want a fantasy. Good luck with that! And my friends and family don't understand why I'm single...lol.

Go for the path that will expand and develop you the most even if it hurts. You know what that path is. Start: Make a decision now, it's easy. Carrying it out is hard, but that's for tomorrow to worry about. Then you'll truly be free.

Resistance is a quality of consciousness. It comes from the stillness of the nothing you really are. Mu. Everything else is chaos and change. To re-state Newton: to every change, there is an equal and opposite non-change.

Relationships are odd really. The more you try and force them to be a certain way, the less it works out well. When you first meet someone, it's like perfection, you don't question each other and you're just in the flow of mutual love and admiration. But after a while some sort of reality kicks in, you stop being one unified being, and separate out into two again. The pain of separation then shows itself as insecurity and irritation and questioning. A relationship - friends or lovers - either flows or it doesn't, there's really no middle ground. And the both of you have to flow together or it doesn't work. If you want it to flow and be meaningful, then you only have to do one thing: keep being the best version of yourself you can be. She will find that attractive. Don't try and be her best version of you. If you think she's beautiful then that's an incredible and rare gift, maybe she's not ready to receive it?

There is a lot of love on this forum. People on here (strangers mostly) honestly want to raise others up and that's love in my books.

Then you have further inner shadow work to do. How was that for Virtue-Signaling? Ho ho ho. Certainly this forum gives you a very good grounding in constantly going meta.

This forum is very open minded and accepting and forgiving. Very much unlike the rest of the world. There is a lot of bickering and I'm more turquoise and super enlightened than you type of strutting. But the beauty is that their bravado is not taken too seriously and they can honestly learn to raise their consciousness if they stop and listen. Even Leo himself is not immune to being "talked down", and it's beautiful that he allows it.

@Aakash spirituality is actually insanity in the deepest sense. We are all using this forum to encourage each other to go insane, mostly by talking in riddles and relativity. But as long as I keep talking like a regular human being and walking like a regular human being, most other people won't notice and I won't have to wear the straightjacket. Stay on the path my friend, there's nothing 'traditional' about enlightenment.

@Aakash nah man I don't believe you, you can't give up. It's everyone's personal gift. Just keep poking and proding until you have exhausted all logic and common sense and then keep going.

There's boiled eggs, poached eggs, scrambled eggs, fried eggs, omelette, maybe even meringue. Each one a very different experience, but it's all egg. There's nothing to do. Being is everywhere and everything, and you.

@Aakash I believe you are not disagreeing with me. You could easily just as well say that your belief in absolute self deception, is itself a self deception; ad infinitum. You don't even know if you are being deceived by your awareness - unfortunately, it's all you have. Self referencing logic explains nothing.

@Aakash you're preaching to the converted and I'm in total agreement with you. Except for the part where I take my knowledge as a belief as opposed to a certainty. But there's nothing wrong with belief, where would god be without it? Don't you after all believe you exist? I re-iterate: A belief is just a part of the present moment which is stable and persists.

@Aakash you say "identify", I say "belief". You believe in a future where you could be absolute infinity actualised. It's just a belief. The basis of your belief is an extrapolation based on another belief that your awareness is expanding and will continue doing so, until your reach absolute infinity. Please tell me that you're currently experiencing absolute infinity and you're no longer human. I may not believe you. But I will at least give you the benefit of the doubt.

The present moment is a fine balance between stability and chaos. You only think you have a future, because you believe the stable aspects of the present moment will persist. The future is just a belief, nothing more. A belief is just a part of the present moment which is stable and persists.

Offence is in the eye of the beholder. But don't go out of your way to offend, it's not nice. And if you offend by accident, then surely just apologise? Even an Enlightened one can have manners. Tread lightly in the world, don't blunder heavy footed through it.

You could also avoid a linear story, by saying that (our) consciousness dissolves into infinity at the point of death; it becomes everything and omniscient until it spontaneously chooses not to be. That is only an illusion though, because (our) consciousness is already just a compartmentalised infinity. There's no difference really, you are both alive and dead.

Excellent! The exact same thing is happening in normal waking life. The mind is constantly "coming back" from the void, with an arising awareness that "something was known". That sensation is of course consciousness/awareness itself. But the paradox is that the sensation is always retroactive. It's never now.

Paradoxically, there is a part that likes to be flumoxed, there's a part that says 'whatever dude', and another that actually understands it.

@Shadowraix yeah. We wave this conciousness word around as if we all know what it means and we agree on it. I get what you say: my argument is being preached to the converted. But really I'm just trying to put some weight on the paradigm scales, to even them up a bit. I'm going to pull out the old trope however. I hope you don't roll your eyes: 'What is the thing that finds a very big distinction in the word consciousness?' And does it come from your body? Or is it separate from it? Hahahahaha....

God feels lonely. And god feels all the other feelings. And god feels everything at once.