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@AlldayLoop That was a killer joke

Admit it: you want to do it, but you also know that you shouldn't. You're distracting yourself with the opinions of others. Deep down you know what to do

Yes and No at the same time. It also depends on what level of depth you ask the question. The answer must be highly nuanced and paradoxical. It must. You are asking about the very building blocks of sentience, individuality, and (unbeknownst to you) consciousness. Were you really expecting a solid, definitive "YES" or "NO?"

Some of you guys can't be saved. It's sort of sad seeing everyone trying so hard to help. It's in our nature, I suppose. Spirituality is not for you if you cannot even experience standard happiness levels on a consistent basis. Don't bother with nonduality if you hate life. This should be obvious.

Haha I thought this too.

Interesting experience! When you start trying to backwards-rationalize it with science, it's crossing into mental masturbation territory though.

The mafia would really like that

What an attitude!

1) Precisely what do you mean by "words are truth?" 2) You can't assume that. Maybe "correct" and "pseudo-correct" are both incorrect. 3) Well then why so serious?

@Nahm Since when do you give out Skype calls?

If you actually grasp what language IS, you cannot take seriously the notion of symbolic communication anymore. It's utterly groundless and circular. There's nothing of substance to be found within symbols. Wispy. Of course, that shouldn't deter you from engaging with symbols. There are many fun and creative uses of them, and furthermore they aid survival tremendously (which is always a cute bonus). The question is: how serious are you? If you really get it, you would be able to laugh off any attempt to dismantle your symbols.

@Ibn Sina Dude too much mental masturbation. If you sent human parts into space - such that the mass of the earth is eclipsed - the project could only be sustained if you have sufficient food (energy) for people to consume. Where does the food come from? Earth. Lol. It's not like humans just continue creating each other out of nowhere forever. Our mass is gained from our environment. Think of it this way; for however many bones leave earth, the earth loses some "food." No matter what you send into space, Earth will be "losing" something in return. No way around this. You just don't fathom this because Earth is really pretty freakin big. Now, this whole thought experiment is a wild mess because you are assuming "matter" as an apriori axiom which you cannot truthfully do if you actually did some existential investigation. But even if we actually assume "matter" as a "thing," we are still bound by the laws of physics, which undermines all of your ideas. Sorry!

...No...

@Nahm Aw I liked your other profile pic

@Gili Trawangan Really key insight. I'm surprised nobody else has addressed this.

+1

I don't know...

Thank you!

hah as if

His next big project is most likely his book on spirituality & devilry. I'm doubtful that we'll get a course within the next few years.

@Alex bAlex Dear God that's golden

Everyone buy his booklist!

I wonder if the first model really is "scientific." I don't think there is any branch of modern science investigating the passage of time. Regardless, it seems like you're starting to get the idea I wonder what's beyond the idea?

Of course not. And your judgement of them is not necessarily open-minded or loving either! Notice how these people, no matter how ignorant or paradigm locked, are not outright inciting violence, discrimination or hatred in their speech. Hell, even the pepe guy you mentioned wrote: "Hope your wife is feeling better - best wishes" My only point here is that calling his following malicious is just not true. I'm not saying his followers are saints. I don't have much else to say on this topic because much of what I'm writing is becoming redundant. It's fair to critique him - just make sure you've done lots of digging. Your initial criticism was rather weak, that's all.

All I'm sayin is that the purported rampant hate comments are media propaganda. Peterson is flawed and ignorant, but we must be VERY PRECISE as to how exactly this is the case, for our own sake. "His followers are haters" is what I'll call criticism from below. You cannot say this if you've actually investigated his following firsthand. Something like "His metaphysical beliefs are misguided" is what I'll call criticism from above. You can only say this (and really mean it) after actually investigating his metaphysical beliefs firsthand.