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I get that feeling whenever I think of pokemon lol

Hahahaha what a good laugh

holy shit this is amazing. I NEED this

I should clarify by the way that I used to be a hardcore JP fan (I would watch his newest uploads before Leo's :P) back in 2016. Then he blew up in fame, and he just isn't the same anymore. I can't tell if that's because he's gotten worse, or I've gotten better. I would guess both. I actually take back what I said earlier, there's absolutely nothing wrong in saying that the ying and yang symbol represents order and chaos. In a certain sense, it does, so it's fair to point that out. But the issue remains: He uses that particular representation of order and chaos to "solidify" his conclusion, that conclusion being something along the lines of (paraphrased) "what better thing could you do as an individual other than to carry the heaviest burden you could possibly bear and put one foot forward at a time? Life is suffering! The only way to justify the struggle of existence is to persevere through the pain and find meaning on the other end regardless of the pain! One MUST have a foot in chaos and another foot in order for such meaning to manifest itself!" That's quite a dense solution there, honestly. I mean look at the poor man's face during interviews. He's so tense and rigid I just want to massage him lol. Life is suffering. Yes. I agree. IF, that is... IF you are an ego. If you have identifications to cling to. If you have something to guard. From the beginning, he has an apriori axiom of "life is suffering." As a professional psychological clinician, he's probably seen the worst of the worst. And he's been through so much trauma in his own life from early childhood to raising a family (and a near terminal daughter). He's the sharpest of the sharp in terms of intellect, and he still struggles to find happiness. It's no wonder he would come to the conclusion that "life is suffering." But he's already led astray the second he lays down a metaphysical claim as "given." Ironically, again, he even points to Buddhism as "proof" of this. He always says, "Life is suffering. That's what the Buddhists have always said!" No, Jordan! No! Life is suffering if you choose finitude! Infinitude IS an option! From this shaky groundwork, he builds the rest of his life's work claiming that you must carry a burden. What the fuck? No, like really. Given that life sucks and you have no way out of it, I can see how Jordan's solution of "carrying a burden to justify the suffering" can seem useful. But what if life can straight up NOT SUCK? Suddenly, this whole idea of a burden seems really stupid. JP goes to great lengths to justify carrying a burden. He pulls from all the myths, all the stories, all the religions and all the cultures to find any semblance with his own personal philosophy. Though this may make him seem worldly and wise, it does not change the fact that he is fueling his own delusion. The greatest "sin" in this case is when he comes across nondual references such as yin and yang, the proceeds to IGNORE THE NONDUAL ASPECTS OF IT, and uses it as an indicator of his "carry a burden" philosophy. Yes, yin and yang can be interpreted as order and chaos. But the key insight here is that the order and chaos are one and the same. Does JP see/advocate that? No! JP sees order and chaos as two distinctly separate states of being that one must seek out sequentially. "Oh now I'm in chaos. Time to balance it out with order!" NO! The proper response would be "Oh now I'm in chaos. Wow, this is literally no different from order!" JP is actually tragic in some sense, he's so utterly devoted to the search for Truth, but he's hopelessly tangled in the deathtrap of meaning. Meaning is absolutely amazing, but it is NOT Truth. I hope this clarifies exactly in what ways JP falls short. Here's a rough archetypal analogy for ya if you're into it Imagine that "Truth" is akin to sailing home in Homer's Odyssey, but Jordan is a sailor who ran into Circe and got turned into a pig. I actually agree with you in that JP is not really blue. I think he's a delicious blend of orange and yellow. Orange for obvious reasons, but also yellow for his insane systematic thinking. What keeps him from being pure yellow is that he seems to have skipped stage green which is acting like a thorn in his side.

wew that was fun

@Emerald HOLY CHRIST, MOTHER YOU are Diamond Net?? Be more transparent about secret identities >:0

@hundreth I really appreciate that you went out of your way to find the sources which you were referencing. However, I do want to note that Leo is still more or less right about his assessments of JP. JP MAY talk about eastern religions and myths, but he always finds a way to sneak his agenda into them, westernizing them without realizing it. For example, he talks about ying and yang quite a lot. Every single time he will proclaim that "it symbolizes order and chaos!" No. No it doesn't. Ok, maybe you COULD interpret it that way, but the origins of Taoism don't give a shit about hard dualities like "order" and "chaos." The whole point of the symbol is to point to the fact that "all is one." It tries to convey that seemingly opposite things are one and the same. The symbol is a glaring signpost for nonduality. JP, however, relentlessly uses it as "proof" that "even the eastern people agree with me about order and chaos!" Man, I really used to like that guy (followed him for a solid year before he got famous) but as I've started to grow and develop myself, It's becoming more and more clear to me that JP is stuck in his own paradigm. Again, he MAY find sources from halfway across the world, but he will warp their meanings to fit the overwhelmingly western map that he wants to see.

Who says it can't be both

I started sprinting in high school for track but I wasn't good enough to run D1 in college so I started prioritizing other things in life. I still like to keep it around as a hobby though. I see a lot of stuff about weightlifting/distance running here, but I'm curious to know if anyone sprints? In my experience, it actually helps me be VERY present. Kind of like riding a roller coaster... except there's an element of mastery to it

Oogway is 1000000% turquoise! When he tells shifu about "illusion of control" in the first movie that was screaming turquoise.

Absolutely. People utterly underestimate the sheer agony of longer sprints (200-400m) esecially if you do them on repeat. The burn is KILLER and it's very easy to give up. I love it! Pavement is just awful, definitely go for a track if available.

When people claim to be yellow, 9/10 they're not yellow lol

Awesome, will look into it

Hmm, bad analogy. To understand the world, I'm willing to read the whole bookstore and more. No shit one book isn't enough! To understand marketing though? I'm not too keen. I'll admit I'm looking for something easy. I suppose I'll just have to do it the old fashioned way haha. Time to get my hands dirty. Thanks for your advice.

Uh oh. Make sure you're not just regurgitating nonduality jargon Leo's told you. If you've had profound awakenings of your own, awesome. But I can see some ego doing the talking here Don't make the mistake of proclaiming outright that existence is "not real." You don't actually know this. It's real and unreal superimposed upon each other at the same time. If you experience this directly, you might find it delightfully simple. But that in itself is complexity. Remember, we're talking about literal infinity here! OF COURSE it's complex. And OF COURSE it's simple. It HAS to be both! Try not to settle on definitive conclusions about reality, that's a telltale sign of delusion.

woah.

Lol sorry. "Reality is not complex" is a SORE understatement. If anything, the less you use your mind the more complexity is revealed to you. That complexity might go full circle and morph into simplicity, yes, but it is still complex nonetheless.

Alright, so are all of these courses equally valid? Can I take one of them and say: "Aha! Now I know marketing." Thanks for the reply Leo

"learn marketing" is something I hear ALL the time. Pretty misleading advice, if you ask me. Maybe if I had a comprehensive library of knowledge to fall back on, I could easily expand that library on my own time. But I've got nothing right now, and I don't even know where to start All the gurus have different opinions. Does "learn marketing" really mean to check out what each and every person has to say personally? Or is there any place with most of this info assembled and organised? Is that too much to ask

Oh boy. That was so... dense. Try being lighthearted. It's much more fun.

No porn is a good idea. No fap is meh.

@Leo-Tzu Spiral Dynamics is more about consciousness/state of being rather than the activities you do. Just because you don't have a car/hot girlfriend/business, doesn't mean you're NOT orange. You can have a pure orange mentality and still be lacking on the materialism front. Similarly, you can be pure yellow or even turquoise while dabbling in materialism as you see fit. You can be highly conscious AND have a super hot girl friend! Don't make the mistake of thinking hot girlfriend = lower position on the spiral dynamics model. You say you don't know what to do, as if there is some sort of problem lol. I don't see a problem. You are somewhere on the spiral and that's just the way it should be. Just remember, what you do does not equate to your relative position. This model is about your consciousness so take a look at your mentality and attitude. I don't know anything about you, but by the original post alone I would guess that you are smack dab in the middle of stage green. I say this because you seem to be repulsed by stage orange, which means you're either above or below it, but at the same time you're on this forum so that alone puts you above blue. I'm guessing that you aren't quite as yellow yet as you'd like to believe, because a yellow person wouldn't have to ask this question in the first place. Of course there's a mix here and there though. So really, there's nothing to do. But don't take my word for it... do some more self inquiry!

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THANK YOU!!

Recently I'm starting to become aware of this sense of what I'd call "pseudo depression" running my life. I consider myself to be absurdly attractive (arrogant, I know ) and I'm multi-talented across many fields. Some of it is natural talent that I was born with, but more importantly I take distinct action steps every day to ensure that I'm on a path of mastery in these fields. Though I'm an introvert at heart, I've trained myself to be an extrovert so I have no problem forming friendships. If you asked me if I was happy, I would immediately respond "of course!" I've never been depressed in my life, and I think I'm incredibly blessed to inhabit the body/experiences that I have. I say all this shit to emphasize that I SHOULD BE HAPPY. I'm doing a lot of shit in my life and I've got realistic goals that I'm pursuing, but with each step I take I'm starting to feel more and more that these endeavors are hollow by nature. Whenever I'm out with my closest friends, I'm acutely aware of how pointless it is in the back of my mind... I'm still able to have fun and laugh, but at the end of the day when I'm back alone at home I feel like the whole experience was a bunch of sand falling through a sift, and the kicker is that I've begun to detect this feeling AS IT'S HAPPENING whereas previously I would only see it in retrospect. Whenever I'm practicing piano (one of my fields of mastery), I feel this nagging of "so what if I get better at performing?" in the back of my mind. Mind you, music resonates with me and I take the time to practice every day because I am genuinely motivated by my love for it. All that being said, I still feel a sort of unease, a slight discontent at the very fact that I am on this path. I'm starting to feel this unease in all areas of my life, from the college I attend (which I should be happy with!), to my family and relationships. Obviously at the end of the day I COULD have more money, or more girls, or more THINGS, or even more experiences. Maybe even more friends. More, more, more. But some part of me intuitively FEELS like all that shit is just shallow and stupid, and by no means am I experiencing a lack in any of those areas. This is why I've started calling it "pseudo depression." I'm actually happy, or so I believe. But there's an underlying hollowness that won't seem to go away. Recently I've been meditating harder than I've ever done, almost out of desperation. Ah, perhaps solitude will reveal the answer! But no, actually, being alone just leaves me more nihilistic if anything. I actually feel content with my meditations, but I haven't had any brilliant breakthroughs the way I'd hoped. I've tried talking about this with my close friends but we're all still very young and this flies straight over their heads, it's actually kind of funny. Just today I tried talking about myself one on one with various close friends, and each time I tried to bring up this phenomenon they just couldn't relate to it at all. I'm posting here to see if anyone has gone through this/is going through this. I don't expect any "solutions," nor do I think there's really any advice I could get at this point (though you're welcome to share anyway!) I've seen Leo's video on the dark side of meditation where he said you might straight up get depressed. This just feels a little different though. I'm happy but unfulfilled, let's say. I'm meditating furiously, almost as if to "reconcile" the void, but it really is like trying to destroy a rock by rubbing it with a feather. Please share your experiences guys.