Leo Gura

You are creating them saying that because you must in order to maintain your sense of self and other. You constructed this illusion to fool yourself that there are others. Because you can't stand to be alone. People in your dream are telling you exactly what you want to hear because you imagine them for your own benefit. If you asked your mom, "Are you real?" and she said, "No", you could no longer have a mother. So what it means to "have a mother" is for her to insist that she is real and for you to believe it. You must deny that you created her, otherwise she could not have given birth to you. You're one tricky bastard, eh?

The way guys treat guys and the way girls would not accept guys treating them. In essence, not giving a damn about your precious feelings. Of course guys are emotional and often irrational. But you girls have cornered the market on that It's not black and white. These are general trends. Yes, being overly emotional does make a man less masculine. This doesn't mean the man cannot be emotional at times, in extreme situations. But overall a man should be icy and not give a fuck. Bus ran over your dog? Tough, let's move on to more important things. This is how a strong man must operate to get shit done in the world. You may not like it, but you also crave the results it delivers and the containment it confers. You're simply not going to be attracted to a man who's more emotional and whiny than you are because such a man is a liability to your survival and the survival of your tribe.

The problem is what the ego mind thinks the ego mind is. Ego mind is so twisted that it cannot understand itself and it cannot know what non-ego mind is. The ego has completely co-opted experience to create itself. You actually believe that your experience is something personal as opposed to absolute. You actually believe you have a life and that this life can end while other lives continue. You actually believe there is stuff outside your life. All these are illusions of the ego, and when the ego collapses all of that will get radically recontextualized.

What you're swooning over is masculine containment. Every feminine girl craves that. But that does not make the girl any more reasonable. The greater the masculine/feminine polarity in a relationship the hotter it will be but also the more difficult conscious communication will be. Most people will eagerly sacrifice consciousness and health to get that burst of hottness. And then it all goes to shit and spirals out of control. Hot but totally dysfunctional and unsustainable.

Oh, there is no doubt he will make you melt. But that will not create a conscious communication or relationship. And you do not want him to treat you rationally, you want him to be rational. Which is of course what the feminine wants from the masculine because the feminine lacks it. But the feminine will not allow itself to become rationalized and the feminine will not behave rationally when triggered. The problem is that conscious communication is biased towards the rational in order to function. It will get distrupted by emotional upheaval which the feminine is prone to. Put simply, you cannot have a conscious communication with an enraged ax murderer. Conscious communication has some significant prerequisites. Hence the "train wreck".

It's not a false dichotomy, it's a very important point to keep in mind when dealing with women. God help the poor man who tries to treat his woman in a rational manner. He will be punished mercilessly. A huge issue with conscious communication is that it has to be symmetrical, but a masculine/feminine relationship is asymmetrical. Bridging that chasm will be the real challenge.

Again, the issue here is that you are imagining some "other" dimension. You keep creating other without realizing it. If you were fully awake there could be no other and no doubt about it. Doubt means you're not awake. Infinity has no outside, no beyond. Seems like you are just defining "mind" in a finite way. My definition of Mind is infinite and absolute. You can't go beyond it and it includes the infinite void of course. Formlessness is part of Mind. Notice that my definition is an absolute Unity, yours is a duality. Well, guess what, you are creating that duality by insisting on it. See my above point about trying to weasel your way out of this. You can try. Notice how your minds uses every trick it can think of to create the possibility of other. OTHERS ARE YOU!

Yes, this is the reality of the problem. When things get heated the rational methods will break down. And realistically the girl will need the guy to ground her chaotic emotions, not via a rational conversation but in a more primitive way. And also, both of you will try to blame the other and hold yourself as innocent, thereby pissing the other off. And then there will be gaslighting, projection, denial, and all sort of other sneaky defense mechanisms at work. Expecting your girl to be a rational actor is not realistic unless she is basically almost a man.

Hard to say. Haven't contemplated that.

I don't know if there was a last straw. I've had hundreds of awakenings which gradually revealed various facets of the core truth that everything is my own mind. I would not have been able to realize it without psychedelics. But also the psychedelic itself is not enough, you gotta seriously question and deconstruct everything. In the end you realize that you are an Infinite Mind, and that's what reality is. This Infinite Mind can have no ground or outside of any kind since it is absolutely sovereign. An infinity of Gods only exists in your Mind. If you want to really be real for a moment, realize that nothing outside your mind has ever existed, nor will ever exist. You can claim till you're blue in the face that Leo is dreaming you, but in absolute fact all you ever have is you dreaming Leo, and this will never be otherwise. If you say that Leo is dreaming you, you are dreaming that Leo is dreaming you. Which is just your dream. You can try all sorts of clever ways to weasel your way out of this, but it will always just be your dream. You will never find anything within existence other than you.

That might be a small piece of it, but your level of development is a much bigger and deeper thing than some one verbal relationship technique will shift. Obviously you should practice conscious relationship techniques and conscious communication techniques. But that's really the icing on the cake. The cake is how emotionally reactive you are, how your identity is constructed, what traumas you carry, what needs you haven't satisfied yet, your level of openmindedness, your ability to listen to another's POV, etc. Emotional reactivity is a huge factor. Most people will get triggered so hard by relationship conflicts that they will not be able to sustain any kind of conscious communication technique. All the techniques will fly out the window as soon as the girl denies you the sex you expected, or she starts acting crazy, etc.

I would never assign such a toxic label to myself. I certainly started out being totally clueless with attracting women. I still struggle to attract the kind of women I like because my standards are very high, but I understand the attraction process very well now. My game is decent, it's not great. Game is not my strength. You can grow massively within a few years of serious going out and approaching.

Actually, yes, that is the core of the best game. You are gaming them too hard. Eventually you will realize that gaming women is really not necessary. You just approach and screen them for which ones are into you. You don't try to manipulate them into liking you. The best game is totally natural and effortless. Not try-hard.

Yes, of course compassion makes business and survival harder. Which is why plenty of the best business leaders are sociopaths and narcissists. The rate of narcissism among corporate executives is way higher than the average population. This is no accident. With that said, don't turn this into a limiting belief. You can create conscious and healthy businesses. It's just harder than a low consciousness business. Also, you have to learn how to turn off your compassion in some contexts and you gotta learn masculine forms of compassion which are more brutal. If you are too compassionate it will serve you to force yourself to be uncompassionate. Then you can find a healthy middle ground and use compassion only in the right contexts. If you want to be a billionaire, being a sociopath is extremely helpful. The good news is, no one needs to be a billionaire to be happy.

There is no universe. There is only your Mind. What you call the universe is just a dream within your Mind.

When you truly awaken there won't be any other minds. You are not yet conscious that you are imagining them.

1) You are too immature to say such things congruently. 2) This only works with the right girl, a highly developed girl. 3) Pickup and dating is not the same thing as a serious relationship and marriage. You don't say stuff like that to some 20 year old slut you pull from the club. A) I'll believe it when I see it. B) Exception that proves the rule. It's not just verbal technique that's required to pull something like that off. Your core level of ego development needs to be high, and this cannot be faked with some simple technique. A relationship will really test your level of embodiment of consciousness. To do relationships like that you'd have to change your core identity. No. Most girls would not be capable of this. She must have an established baseline of serious development. Even many Green and spiritual girls would be way too immature and way too emotionally reactive to handle conscious communication like that. That's well and good. Good for you.

1) Verbals really hinge on state. If you hit peak state your verbals will automatically get much better. But this requires that you be disciplined about hitting state each night. 2) Your verbals will improve automatically, but slowly. To speed up the process you should listen to good verbals and generate your own verbals at home. Not as canned lines per se, but you want to get good at developing fun things to say. You can practice this a bit each day at home. Try coming up with 2 fun lines each night and write them down in your database. Then experiment with saying them. Over time you will build up a memory bank of good lines and you will also develop the skill to improve fun new lines on the fly. 3) More than working on your verbals you need to work on relaxing in the environment and really letting loose and having fun. You need to genuinely relax and have fun when you are out. This will auto-correct many problems, including verbals. Your verbals will be 10x better when you are genuinely relaxed, comfortable, and having fun. Anxiety is killing your verbals.

There is good science that shows that you definitely can grow new neurons. In fact, I just read an article this week about how mushrooms have been shown to help with neurogenesis.

I would be more concerned about kidding yourself in such matters. You're not as developed as you think you are. It's not impossible. But it takes work. Such a relationship will never just happen by accident. Which is why it impressed you so much. It's like seeing someone juggle 10 daggers. You can learn to do it too, but will you?

Well, they live desperate lives but they don't know any higher way so they are stuck. They also have no clue the beauty they are missing out on.

Realistically not. You'd need to find two people who are both in the top 0.001% of development and consciousness. It's basically impossible without being super developed. 99.99% of people couldn't do it even if they wanted to. And they don't even want to. You might say you want it, but: A) Your selfishness will make it impossible, B) You don't want to make the sacrifices and work necessary for such a relationship. Instead you'd rather just have fun and have your needs met. - - - - - I'm not at a point in my development where I feel I would be fully capable of such a relationship. It would take me more development work. In my 40s I will be capable of it.

@thisintegrated Most people don't even know there is anything above Orange.

Go for it

@Blackhawk You have no clue what you are.