Leo Gura

Everything is nowhere and nothing. You are God and you struggle very much with "choosing" your emotions. Your own emotions are mostly a mystery to you.

Someone posted it in the Politics subforum. I just re-posted it.

No, that's not what I meant. I was not talking about your body or your finite human avatar. I was talking about YOU, God. Here you are.

God is too infinite to know itself as some fixed end-state. God is the never-ending process of an unfolding fractal of self-knowing and self-discovery. And emotions are not "artificial". You got some seriously wrong conceptions of God and awakening.

Yes. You're dying.

I mean stuff exactly like this: It would behoove you to look up the definition of the word "hustler". https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hustler That's exactly what Tate is. And you fell for his hustle.

It would be a circle. Tate is a big fan of Trump (obviously). From what I read he even hung out with Trump Jr. Most of the Manosphere will be Trump fans.

Yes and no. It also depends on how he is spreading it and the collateral damage the spread causes. That's cause you're lost in a fog of self-centeredness and too self-absorbed to see the larger systemic consequences. You are looking at the situation in terms of what is personally good for you. But you are not the only stakeholder in this matter. If you considered the female perspective at all you would see how problematic Tate's content is. And the female perspective is far from the only consideration here. Tate not only exploits females, he also exploits males, and the broader social media ecosystem.

Eben Pagan, Dan Kennedy, and others.

Develop yourself into an exceptionally valuable man.

No. Not even close. Any business that behaves like Tate's would get extreme backlash and boycotts. The are making the classic fool's mistake of confusing popularity with something good. This kind of foolishness is exactly what Tate's success preys on. Initially I thought Tate's cancellation was excessive. Now it's obvious he had to be banned off these platforms because he was exploiting them like a parasite and he was not going to stop unless he was banned.

Everything you need to get laid is in my How To Get Laid series and it's presented there in an ethical way. You don't need more theory, you need to actually start going out regularly and apply what I told you.

Why would applaud that? He created a pyramid scheme to run a grift on naive young men and exploit social media algorithems. It's deeply unethical, selfish, and scammy. Nothing to applaud about it. This is not a legit way make money. What he did is a stain on the self-help and dating advice industries. If these industries had ethics boards, he would be banned long ago. The more of his clips I see, the worse it gets. In the end it's all a distraction from serious development work.

Owen's new content is still good. You can also find the old stuff.

P.S. I want the Dating subforum to be better and less blatantly biased. I monitor that place for mysogynistic and unethical stuff.

@hoodrow trillson Dude, just go watch some RSD. You don't need this Tate crap.

Don't get it twisted. You can find way better biz advice than what Tate's Hustler U offers. Not all biz advice is this shady affliate marketing pyramid scheme stuff. If you are serious about working hard and building a solid biz, you can find good courses and teachings for that. But it's not gonna cost $50. Good biz courses can cost $2000-$10,000.

I notice some of you guys have very wrong expectations about what a forum is capable of. This is not a Zen monastery.

I framed it as a lack of healthy Orange and excess of toxic Orange. Millions of young people are struggling just to get a handle on Orange, and then guys like Trump and Tate exploit that by selling them toxic Orange and even Red. If Trump and Tate were selling healthy Orange they would not be cancelled and there would be no controversy.

We are arguing over nothing. Each stage has its limits, which we all know. So what? Things are playing out exactly as predicted. Each Tier 1 stage misunderstands the others. And it could not be otherwise.

Why would you ever compare an online forum to a retreat? While you're at it, this place is also not a kangaroo. You are welcome to leave any time. Why are you here trying to convince me to go when you're the one who is unhappy?

If people didn't have weaknesses the devil would be out of work Focusing on the people left behind is what Green is trying to do economically though.

If you think this forum is toxic, you really haven't been around the internet.

They are man-children. Of course That's what I said. But by exploiting them they are popularizing toxic stuff. It's like seducing a fat person on a diet with junk food. Algorithms themselves are corrupted by the Orange drive to maximize profits and clicks. Which are then exploited by grifters like Tate. Please spare us your jaded nihilism.

I doubt it. Although of course with more popularity come more haters. Peterson is deeply political though and brings it on. He's got such bad political arguments that it just triggers the hell out of anyone Green and above. If he didn't get all political he would be loved by 99% of people I think. And he deliberately plays into the culture wars to get clicks and views. Otherwise no one would care or know about him. Obviously not. They manipulated their way to the top by exploiting the unconscious weaknesses of the ignorant masses. These guys are experts at exploiting the ego-mind's basest impulses. Which is the only way to get so popular without creating anything of genuine value. Yeah, well, an ego will not be awoken but rudely. So here we are.