Leo Gura

No

Your biggest problem is that you have no idea if it will work as you imagine it will. You really wanna kill yourself on a belief? What if you kill yourself and turn into a piece of poo?

I have no idea.

For yoga or meditation to be effective it has to be done rigorously and methodically in huge quantities. Dabbling in it will not produce much if any results. It's all or nothing sorta thing. I am not a yoga teacher. To get results from meditation requires doing hardcore retreats.

That's far from true.

I was an atheist, until I realized Infinity thanks to 5-MeO-DMT.

You should take that up with your guru.

Well, at least you understand.

To be clear, I never said you shouldn't do yoga or whatever practice you have. I merely made a comment about the way I saw people doing spirituality at Isha. I am NOT disputing the benefits of yoga. Nor am I saying Sadhguru is bad.

Could happen, but you can't avoid parental duty in this case. Parents could err in either direction. And mostly parents err in the direction of demonizing their children because the parents are closedminded and brainwashed with right-wing transphobia. I'm all for a significant therapy requirement prior to surgery being allowed. This would be a good safeguard. But this will not appease right-wingers who oppose trans on existential dogmatic grounds.

Please stop piling onto this "debate" or commenting about Emerald. Just move on. This is derailing the thread. If you want to debate Elon Musk, start a new thread.

If you want to do brainless conformist spirituality, go ahead. But that is not what I do or teach.

@Emerald You literally wanted me to debate you. I wisely refused. Now I am the scapegoat. All that noise just avoid watching some videos. Sigh...

That's mostly what happens now. It's not like a kid is paying for his own penis surgery in secret.

Your position was that you didn't want kids to receive any transition treatment.

@Emerald I was never in an argument with you. And I do not care about winning anything here.

I don't remember what it was called. His basic program. It is not a cult in a technical sense. But his followers are brainless conformist sheeple. He doesn't teach them how to think, he teaches them how to be spiritual robots.

There is no contradiction in my position. Everyone is free to see a doctor of their choice for whatever condition they have. No doctor is forcing anyone to do anything. You, on other hand, want to tell 70 million kids what is best for them.

Musk deeply cares about what's best for humanity.

So what? That is irrelvant. It doesn't mean you understand him. You are too busy judging reality to see it for what it is.

That's not for you to decide, but for them and their therapists and doctors. How dare you tell every kid in the country what is best for them! You don't know. That's the whole point. Yet you want to dictate your opinions on others.

Something I did was just sit down and watch Musk talk without judging him, really seeing the world from his POV. Dare I say, empathize with him. If you actually do that you will have an experience very different from all the leftist moralizing. That would be transcending the Green narrative. And this doesn't mean I support Musk's politics.

Yes, that's the meta issue. I merely suggested that you watch some videos with an open mind. You refused. So there is nothing more to do here.

@Emerald I am not going to engage with you on content debates. I pointed out a meta issue, which you are uninterested in handling. So that's the end.

You can easily find clinical statistics on all this. And they are not in your favor. Your position is unscientific. Not from above, but from below. You don't even know the science that has been done on this phenomenon. The science could change in the future, but you don't even know the current science, so your position is unserious.