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That's a risky assumption.

There is no limit whatsoever on what Universal Mind can imagine. It can imagine an infinite number of different worlds with totally different mechanics, dimensions, colors, experiences, and laws. Consciousness cannot have a limit since it imagines all limits.

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Even those girls are still going to get attracted at an emotional not a logical level. And obviously we are generalizing. Not even all girls like dick. The exceptions demonstrate the rule. Even the emotional guys are still logical relative to girls. Consider that gender is more fundamental than personality type. Female cats still go into heat and want to be fucked. This dynamic is way more primal than personality type or even humanness.

Your "high quality" girl still wants fun, emotions, value, and leadership. A high quality girl has options. She won't be attracted to some needy inexperienced ass. For a guy to get a good relationship requires hundreds of approaches. You are assuming attraction. But that cannot be assumed. A guy needs a lot of "customers" to get the experience necessary to be the kind of strong man & leader a high quality girl expects him to be. Every girl wants the sausage but doesn't want to know how it's made. As it turns out, being a man tends to be a dirty business.

You can certainly flip a girl around if she is cold on approach. But it's not going to be something you do consistently. Just focus on improving your game rather than aiming for some magical 100% consistency. Even the best guys in the world get blown out all the time. I know many guys who are very good. And they have bad nights frequently. It's a very chaotic process.

I understand what he's saying. In my experience that won't work. But maybe I'm just not good enough at the method. Of course it's way easier to capitalize on immediate attraction. Converting from no to yes is an uphill battle. I'm sure it can be done but I'm not sure how consistently. In the end, try it and see what results you get. You have to learn to lead her regardless.

Yes, some do. The issue is that not enough do to make it an effective dating strategy from a guy's POV to cater to them. It's like opening an organic fast food joint. It will probably go out of business even though it will have a few fans. Keep in mind that the girls on this forum are going to be way above-average in consciousness. No But a guy's neediness tends to be related to his lack of getting sex. If you struggle to get laid then you will probably get needy about that one great girl you happen to accidentally meet and she will run away from you.

Yes, I understand that method. I have heard that some very advanced guys boil their game down to this: you basically go to a club and quickly compliance test every girl until you find one who is very compliant and down. You spend most of your time just screening for logistics rather than getting all fancy with your verbals. You don't waste time running long sets for 30+ mins. Instead you quickly test girls out for 5 mins to see how down they are. If she isn't down, you eject and move to the next. This may be the most efficient mechanical way of getting laid. I think there is some truth to this, but it's not entirely true. I think attraction is a factor. But of course attraction can be generated with solid game. I think if you limit your game to just pure compliance testing that's too mechanical. Then again, I am not some master at game. It can also be hard to know which PUA coach to trust. They're not exactly trust-worthy or objective people. They tend tend to be scummy and dishonest. Yes, it is hard to test stuff like that. In practice, most guys who are really good with game also have fairly good looks, which creates a killer combo. And then it become very difficult to know which is doing the heavy lifting in the interaction. Looks are certainly a factor. Online game proves this conclusively. Now in-person game is very different, but still you would be a fool to assume that the #1 factor in online is completely nullified with game. Game can get you far, but you cannot game your way into a girl's pants if she is simply not attracted to you physically at all. Sometimes you run very solid game but the girl is just not interested. This is pretty common actually. The key is just to move on to another girl who is. It's hard to say. I would say he's got a pretty dashing look. But he's not some jacked, tall, muscular, big-jawed dude. He does not fit the classic jock or Chad stereotype. But I would say he's well above average. He is extremely charismatic and charming, and has insane verbal game. He's a lesser known pickup coach. I'm not going to name him. To be fair, his theory is that girls do not have a type. He believes if his game is good enough any girl will sleep with him regardless of type. Be believes the girl will backwards-rationalize that he is her type after she sleeps with him. I'm not sure if that's true. I'm just telling you his mindset. It's hard to measure these things objectively. I'm open to the idea that girls don't really have a type. But I think some girls simply won't be attracted to you physically, and you should therefore move on to other girls. In my own experience I've noticed that Asian girls are more easily attracted to me than other kinds of girls. This suggests that type does play a factor. Then again, it's hard to measure this objectively. No, his game is a lot more charming, charismatic, and verbal. It's not so mechanical as just compliance testing.

The deepest consciousness I've reached is that there is only you. No on else.

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@Raptorsin7 People break laws in my city every day. That does not give me the right to act as a vigilante or policeman. If law enforcement is inadequate then the solution is to improve and increase trained law enforcement, not to have random people deputize themselves as enforcers. When people start deputizing themselves to enforce laws, gang warfare breaks out.

You might have a point if Rittenhouse was defending his Mom's storefront from looters. But that's not what happened.

He didn't violate the letter of the law. But it sure isn't a good policy to allow for vigilante right-wing teens to patrol city streets. The whole point of government and police monopoly of force is to make it unbiased and neutral in enforcing laws. And while the police are not perfectly unbiased, a right-wing vigilante will be far more biased. Unbiased law enforcement requires serious training, maturity, experience, and accountability. It cannot be outsourced to 17 year old fools who's primary motivation is, "Guns are cool, bro."

One of my wings has been doing game for 10+ years and slept with 500+ girls. He says compliance ladder game can be so effective it can be it's own style of game. Personally he doesn't use it that much. Do I recommend you adopt that as your sole strategy? No. Will it get you laid a lot? Probably. You have to be extremely pushy for that compliance ladder to work. And still, girls will give you plenty of last minute resistance because you're basically herding them along down your sex funnel without building much connection. Yes, you can get results by being extremely persistent and manipulative. I would equate it with high pressure sales tactics. Which is why John Anthony has a rape charge. His style of game is extremely pushy and sociopathic. I don't want you guys going down that road. But still, learning to lead is an important aspect of game.

@Raptorsin7 Go try it. Go attract your "high quality" girl.

I'm sure some girls can pull that off, but I wouldn't count on it. Again, she is not having sex for logical reasons. She is not sitting there calculating which guy is most suitable for her long-term health and well-being. If your strategy is to get into a girl's pants using logical objective facts about yourself, you're going to be extremely disappointed with your results.

Yeah, they will say they want a chill sweet girl but in practice they end up having sex with the hottest girl even if is a crazy spoiled twat. There is truth to this. Because most girls are not thinking about attraction or sex at all, their logical paradigm is about how to land a committed guy. Girls cannot be as honest as guys because they will look like sluts and this will lower their value. A girl is not allowed to say, "I just want to be fucked by the baddest player tonight", even if she craves that. She also tends to believe that she can get the best of both worlds: a super attractive guy who will also treat her like a princess. This is the girl's fantasy. She is not thinking about how that super attractive guy is super attractive precisely because he is banging 5 other girls each week who are hotter than her. All she feels is that he's hot. Since guys are logical they can be more straight forward. Girls do not sit down and logically analyze their sex life. They run more on feelings, which tend to be fickle and less consistent than logical analysis.

Lol Your sweet little angel is sucking some dude's dick in the car while you are daydreaming of being her BF.

The problem here is, if you set the boyfriend frame she is likely to not get attracted to you and therefore you will lose your "high-quality" woman to a scummy player who doesn't give a shit about her. And yes, she will sleep with him instead of you because he is detached and fun while you are needy and serious. If you see an awesome girl, the more you lead with the BF frame the more she will get repelled.

Yes! I would add: You are God Reality is Infinity Yes In the end you're just conscious as fuck without any method or thinking or even meditating. And yes, it is profoundly mysterious. You see God in everything.

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That's not so clear. You could think of it as: your life is a flow of consciousness, like a giant river. And then a single trip is like diverting that river using a wooden dam. But the river is so strong is breaks down your dam after a while and continues to flow like it has for years. It's hard to change the flow of the entire river permanently without nuking the whole river. You could end your dream at any moment, but you wouldn't dare. It could be however you imagine.