Leo Gura

No. We don't need to go high, but we need to not inflame this. War is bad for all sides. No one will benefit from a war over this. This kind of escalating radicalization is very bad.

Super, super, super bad.

This event is extremely problematic. It's going to radicalize the right so much.

When your political opponents are killed it can arouse mixed emotional reactions. This is natural. On the one hand you feel empathy for the murder, on the other hand you can feel a sick glee that someone heinous got his comeuppance. The mind is not always a positive empathy machine. Complex, confliciting emotions can rise. The important thing is to stay mindful of them.

Dude, come on. Don't make us look bad.

Charlie Kirk was not killed for telling the truth. That much is certain.

He was a propagandist. That is not respectable. When a right-winger says "free speech", he means "free speech for me".

The military has to be conservative simply because it's hard to shoot someone in the face if you're a Lib.

Most of them are not developed enough to see that. It's blind patriotism.

With AI, car safety can become very high.

Of course a majority of them do. The military will always lean conservative.

If you take a long enough view, everything leads to good. Nuking Hishoshima turned out good in the long run.

Except cars are necessary and American gun culture is not. The rest of the world lives fine without owning 15 guns per household.

It is a well-known trope that right-wingers lack empathy, ridicule those who have empathy, and even demonize empathy. That is of course until they themselves get hurt. Right-wingers don't take liberal causes seriously until it personally hurts them. That is how selfishness works. It's not an issue until it touches me. Well, Charlie was touched. That is the tragedy of aggressive ignorance.

The fatal flaw of the fascist worldview is that it foolishly overlooks that the violence it glorifies will boomerang on the fascist.

It's fine to fight fascists, but killing civilians for their free speech is not that.

Shameful. Owen has really lost the plot. That's what pickup ideology does to the mind.

"I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage." "It's worth to have the cost of, unfortunately, some guns deaths each year so we can have the 2nd Amendment." -- Charlie Kirk

Killing him does nothing to reduce fascism. The opposite I would say. It makes him a martyr. This empowers the far right by making them feel like they stand for something noble.

Charlie Kirk was a vile propagandist. But even so, killing him is not right. This is bad for democracy.

No, this is false if you know political science. There are no far left parties in America. Americans who think Dems or progressives are far left have no understanding of political science or global political history. They are just consuming right wing news. No far left party has ever held office in America.

Far left, yes. Which is why I would not support a far left radical government. But there is no danger of that in American politics. America has no far left in office.

Please don't discuss that issue here. We have a thread for it in the Politics section. Violence does not serve truth.

Duplicate topic.

Yes. I am worried about what really matters, loss of American democracy to an authoritarian regime of rapists, crooks, lunatics, and numbskulls. You know how WW1 started?